Syrian Rebels Execute Two Children!

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Timothysis said:
Saying “no injustice should ever be tolerated” is like saying that no one should go to bed hungry or no one should be killed unjustly. It isn’t reality. You even take exception to the concept that Justice should prevail in all aspects. I know your heart is in the right place but you must remember that it is the intellect and not emotions that should rule.
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Nobody should go to bed hungry, and nobody should be killed unjustly! These are ideals worthy of our striving for.

Justice ought to prevail in all aspects, but, again, this will rarely be achieved in our imperfect world. Nonetheless, perfect justice ought to be something we strive for.
 
11Sep13 These two children were executed not because of what they had done, but because they were born into a sinful :mad:religion. ALL Muslimes are warped because they have had their heads ‘shoved’ into the Quoran since they were the age of 5. They are ALL filled with ‘mindspeak’.
There is so much jealousy and hatred within Muslimes for ALL other religions and jealousy of peoples from the West especially who have more, do more, and learn more than any of them will ever achieve until they put aside this assinine religion they have and suffer through several generations until its out of their system. Take one look at these idiots as they parade throughout the streets of Pakistan, Iran, Syria, and any other muslime city or town and one can easily see that ‘we’ could never sit down and have a sensible discussion with them.
Ever since mohammed came on the scene and started up Islam, these muslimes have NOT invented anything.
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Hypnotoad said:
Any facts yet about the two who were executed?
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11Sep13…They were youngsters and unfortunately for them were born into a religion where ‘mindspeak’ is the order of the day.
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Robert_Sock said:
No, but I assume that they were supporters of Assad.
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11Sep13…Millions of people went to bed hungry in the past; millions of people go to bed hungry today; and millions of people will go to bed hungry in the future. The WholeWideworld has become filled with ‘complacancy’.

Jesus Christ told us that if we were to ‘Follow HIM’, we should give up ALL that we own. He also said that we should help the poor. Unfortunately today, nobody does this anymore. Everyone wants to feel ‘comfortable’ in their homes and have their ‘toys’. Even after they come out of church on Sundays, they still ignore the homeless on the streets. This is NOT the way of Jesus Christ and for sure, we will answer to GOD for our meaness and selfishness.

What is the answer???Should we give up ALL that we own???..Would Jesus do that ‘IF’ he had come down to earth on this side of the planet in his times (remember now, while Jesus was walking and preaching His message, the Indian, Eskimo, Aborigine, and Amazonians were alive and living their ways…they heard nothing of His message).
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BobLoblah said:
11Sep13 These two children were executed not because of what they had done, but because they were born into a sinful :mad:religion. ALL Muslimes are warped because they have had their heads ‘shoved’ into the Quoran since they were the age of 5. They are ALL filled with ‘mindspeak’.
There is so much jealousy and hatred within Muslimes for ALL other religions and jealousy of peoples from the West especially who have more, do more, and learn more than any of them will ever achieve until they put aside this assinine religion they have and suffer through several generations until its out of their system. Take one look at these idiots as they parade throughout the streets of Pakistan, Iran, Syria, and any other muslime city or town and one can easily see that ‘we’ could never sit down and have a sensible discussion with them.
Ever since mohammed came on the scene and started up Islam, these muslimes have NOT invented anything.
Forever and Ever
BobLoblah
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“LOVE your neighbor as yourself!” This includes Muslims! Most Muslims are kind and peaceful people. It’s the Muslim extremists that are the problem, and they are but a minority.
 
BobLoblah said:
Jesus Christ told us that if we were to ‘Follow HIM’, we should give up ALL that we own. He also said that we should help the poor. Unfortunately today, nobody does this anymore.
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Speak for yourself.
 
Robert_Sock said:
He’s speaking the words of Christ, taken directly from th Bible. Charity is far too seldom put into practice in our society today.
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Actually, he said “He also said that we should help the poor. Unfortunately today, nobody does this anymore,” which is hogwash. Many people give to help the poor in this country and abroad, so to say that “nobody does this anymore” is factually incorrect.

BTW, in light of your posts in this and many other threads I can say that your idea of charity is not exactly the same as others. Just because one person’s perception of charity doesn’t square with yours doesn’t mean that it isn’t being practiced.
 
Timothysis said:
Well said. People don’t realize that that area of the world has known nothing but wave after wave of invasion throughout its history, often subjugated by cruel and powerful rulers. It is mind-numbing to read of the brutality that was inflicted upon these people through the past 4,000 years. The Enlightenment never did shine on the Middle East.
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The Enlightenment brought plenty of murder and wars itself. I don’t know that any good came from the Enlightenment at all.

One perhaps should cite the suppression of Christianity in the Middle East as central to the violence that’s so endemic there, not the fact that the Enlightenment didn’t have an effect there.

I probably should add, just so we think about it, that we don’t any more know that the boys in the OP were killed by rebels than we know they were killed by Hezbollah. Hezbollah doesn’t wear uniforms, and I’m confident if 100 rebels and 100 Hezbollah fighters were lined up, nobody could pick out which is which.

One needs to remember too that they’re not stupid over there. Assad and Hezbollah both know that reports of rebel atrocities are having an effect on people in the West. How easy it would be for them to manipulate westerners, who are often gullible about such things. It’s extremely hard for me to believe they haven’t tried it.

Not saying these executioners aren’t rebels, but we sure don’t know that they are. Probably a good half or more of what we hear coming out of Syria is a lie.
 
Robert_Sock said:
“LOVE your neighbor as yourself!” This includes Muslims! Most Muslims are kind and peaceful people. It’s the Muslim extremists that are the problem, and they are but a minority.
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If you talk to Arabs (and I have) it isn’t just the Muslim extremists over there. There are also criminal organizations, some of which masquerade as jihadis, but are just criminals. There are organizations that aren’t exactly criminal organizations, but which don’t mind a bit of criminality here and there, and even admire it if it works It reminds one of nothing so much as the movie 'Gangs of New York". Some are worse than others.

But there is also tribal rivalry of a sort we really don’t quite grasp over here. Here, there are at least social pressures against extreme tribalism. Over there, there is every encouragement to it.

Add to those things the “shame/honor” system that’s pervasive in Arab culture and, to a degree, in Muslim culture everywhere, and it’s a witch’s brew.
 
Ridgerunner said:
The Enlightenment brought plenty of murder and wars itself. I don’t know that any good came from the Enlightenment at all.
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Really? I would rather have the presumption of innocence with a protection of certain inalienable rights in a court of law than to prove myself innocent by walking over a bed of hot coals and checking to see if there is no injury. Murder and wars were well established before the 18th century.
 
Ridgerunner said:
If you talk to Arabs (and I have) it isn’t just the Muslim extremists over there. There are also criminal organizations, some of which masquerade as jihadis, but are just criminals. There are organizations that aren’t exactly criminal organizations, but which don’t mind a bit of criminality here and there, and even admire it if it works It reminds one of nothing so much as the movie 'Gangs of New York". Some are worse than others.

But there is also tribal rivalry of a sort we really don’t quite grasp over here. Here, there are at least social pressures against extreme tribalism. Over there, there is every encouragement to it.

Add to those things the “shame/honor” system that’s pervasive in Arab culture and, to a degree, in Muslim culture everywhere, and it’s a witch’s brew.
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Informative! 👍
 
Robert_Sock said:
All I did was answer your question. What would your answer be?
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14Sep13…We should be concentrating on the fact that ‘in this day and age’, there are certain categories of people (mainly muslimes) who use children in warfare.

That rarely, if any, happens in the West.

Ps: Note…Take a good look at these muslimes as they rant and roar in the streets of Pakistan (especially), Egypt, Iran, and think if they would ever have the common sense to sit down to a table and discuss something sensibly. Would you like to have one of these men covered in wiskers sitting down in your living room asking for daughters hand in marriage.

No sensible person ever would.
 
Keep that in mind if you are ever arrested, advised of your rights and tried in a court that is ruled, not by passion and bloodlust, but by the law.
 
If these trials without juries were held in secret, then how do you know about them?
 
Timothysis said:
Really? I would rather have the presumption of innocence with a protection of certain inalienable rights in a court of law than to prove myself innocent by walking over a bed of hot coals and checking to see if there is no injury. Murder and wars were well established before the 18th century.
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The protection of rights in the Enlightenment-inspired French Revolution was what?

When you think about it, the slaughters of the 20th Century are all products of the Enlightenment, so called. “Reason” is not the sure guide to civility that many thought.
 
Sure.

But one has to admit that the jury system and trial by one’s peers, as well as widespread reverence for the rule of law have their roots in Britain.
 
16Sep13…These regimes in Africa may ‘purport’ to be Christian…BUT in reality they are NOT Christian.
Yes, go ahead and provide some examples of child soldiers used in more modern times.
 
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