Syro Malabar Church Decrees All Bishops Must Learn East Syiac

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In 2013, by the efforts of Mar Kuriakose Kunnacherry, Metropolitan Emeritus of Kottayam Diocese and Syriac Scholar, the Syro Malabar Church has decreed that all bishops must learn the East Syriac language and understand how to fully celebrate the Syro Malabar Qurbana in East Syriac. If a priest is chosen for the bishopric, his appointment will not continue unless he already knows Syriac or learns the Syriac language. The Syro Malabar Church has taken a hard turn from Latinization, the Church has entered into a new period of returning to its East Syriac Roots.

-Reported From Msgr. Fr. Jacob Vellian (Kottayam Metropolitan Diocese)
youtube.com/watch?v=NqgWNEm9qC8
 
I’m a Latin Rite Catholic and I think it is perfectly reasonable to require this of bishops.
 
In 2013, by the efforts of Mar Kuriakose Kunnacherry, Metropolitan Emeritus of Kottayam Diocese and Syriac Scholar, the Syro Malabar Church has decreed that all bishops must learn the East Syriac language and understand how to fully celebrate the Syro Malabar Qurbana in East Syriac. If a priest is chosen for the bishopric, his appointment will not continue unless he already knows Syriac or learns the Syriac language. The Syro Malabar Church has taken a hard turn from Latinization, the Church has entered into a new period of returning to its East Syriac Roots.

-Reported From Msgr. Fr. Jacob Vellian (Kottayam Metropolitan Diocese)
youtube.com/watch?v=NqgWNEm9qC8
WONDERFUL NEWS! Thank God for Mar Kuriakose and his visionary mind!

Please post a link to the decree, I’d like to read it personally!

Thomas, do you have any information on Fr. Vellian - was he cleared of that accusation from Kalamazoo or did he avoid it by staying in India?
 
WONDERFUL NEWS! Thank God for Mar Kuriakose and his visionary mind!

Please post a link to the decree, I’d like to read it personally!

Thomas, do you have any information on Fr. Vellian - was he cleared of that accusation from Kalamazoo or did he avoid it by staying in India?
I don’t have a source to the written decree but it is explained in the homily of the Syriac Qurbana at Kaduthuruthy Knanaya Church, in the link I’ve posted above.

It’s a very sad thing but from what I have heard (only rumors in our community) the family created a lie against Msgr. Jacob Vellian during his short period in the U.S, that is why the case never continued and also why he was not stripped of his titles when he returned to Kottayam Metropolitan Diocese. Mar Matthew Moolakattu accepted him wholly again as the Monsignor of Kottayam Diocese and the entire diocese defended Jacob Vellian against the charges.

He is one of the greatest Syriac scholars of the Syro Malabar Church and the most renowned in the study among Knanaya Priests, this man is responsible for the recreation of the Syro Malabar Qurbana along with other hieararchs in Rome, when it was translated to Malayalam. I do not think such a great priest would have been responsible for such allegations. But then again I have no connection or in depth background information on the case, so I could never know. It’s a dismal thing to say but it is true that such great priests can go afoul as well.
 
I don’t have a source to the written decree but it is explained in the homily of the Syriac Qurbana at Kaduthuruthy Knanaya Church, in the link I’ve posted above.

It’s a very sad thing but from what I have heard (only rumors in our community) the family created a lie against Msgr. Jacob Vellian during his short period in the U.S, that is why the case never continued and also why he was not stripped of his titles when he returned to Kottayam Metropolitan Diocese. Mar Matthew Moolakattu accepted him wholly again as the Monsignor of Kottayam Diocese and the entire diocese defended Jacob Vellian against the charges.

He is one of the greatest Syriac scholars of the Syro Malabar Church and the most renowned in the study among Knanaya Priests, this man is responsible for the recreation of the Syro Malabar Qurbana along with other hieararchs in Rome, when it was translated to Malayalam. I do not think such a great priest would have been responsible for such allegations. But then again I have no connection or in depth background information on the case, so I could never know. It’s a dismal thing to say but it is true that such great priests can go afoul as well.
 
Msgr. Jacob has NOT been released from the sexual abuse charges brought against him in the Diocese of Kalalmazoo, Michigan. In fact, the case was sent to the CDF in Rome, and Archbishop Moolakkat told the CDF that Msgr. Vellian was elderly and quite sick and staying in a retirement home for retired priests and would not be able to do any public ministry. So the CDF wrote to Bishop Bradley here in the Kalamazoo Diocese reporting that info. However, it has been seen on the internet several times that Msgr. Velliam is seen singing, lecturing, and presiding at a few very public masses. It appears that Archbishop Moolakkat misrepresented the situation to the CDF. The Diocese of Kalamazoo is currently trying to get someone at the Vatican to speak with the Archbishop and encourage him to not allow Msgr. Vellian to do anything that could bring scandal to the church or that would allow him access to sexually abuse any other young people!

I happen to be that young 15 year old that was sexually abused by Msgr. Vellian back in 1975. I can guarantee you it was NOT a lie, it was NOT made up! He made me think I was special, he made me think he was my confessor and mentor, and he started buying my gifts, and then he started to sexually molest me. This went on for two years. The pastor at the church walked in on us one time with Msgr. Vellian laying on top of me and did or said nothing other than telling me to get back to my office where I volunteered. I went home and told my mother what happened and she told me I must have misunderstood his touches because a priest would never do that. That is exactly what Fr. Vellian was telling me. When he fondled me he said he was praying for me, he was asking the Holy Spirit to enter into me - and my Holy Spirit was located in my chest right where he was fondling me. He also told me he was from a mission in India - that was a medical mission, and he wanted to “examine my private areas” to see if woman in the US were built like the women in India, and that it was ok, because he worked at this medical mission and he was like a Dr. and saw these things all the time. PLEASE, I BEG you - it is all true - if there is anything you can to do help protect any other little children he might be around, or to get his Archbishop to not let him perform public ministry, I beg you to do so. It seems the bureaucracy of the Catholic Church, and the compounded problem of him having retreated to India from California when he heard of my accusations are making it very difficult to hold him accountable for his actions! I only started speaking of this about 8 years ago, after I had been through considerable counselling for anxiety and depression and PTSD. It was during this counselling that I wsa finally able to tell someone else about what happened to me. After having 2 other adults know about it and not doing anything I vowed I would never tell another soul. However, this counselor gained my trust and I finally spoke up, and that is when I made the report to my diocese, and filed a report with the police department. Our police cannot come after him, because we have a statute of limitations that does not allow for prosecution of a crime committed so long ago. So the only disciplinary avenue I have is the church. The church has not been able to get cooperation from Archbishop Moolakkatt. I know it was a long time ago, and Msgr. Vellian was relatively young at the time but I fear for any other young children he may have molested. Please pray for me as I still suffer from anxiety and fear of God because of what he did to me. Thank you.
 
Msgr. Jacob has NOT been released from the sexual abuse charges brought against him in the Diocese of Kalalmazoo, Michigan. In fact, the case was sent to the CDF in Rome, and Archbishop Moolakkat told the CDF that Msgr. Vellian was elderly and quite sick and staying in a retirement home for retired priests and would not be able to do any public ministry. So the CDF wrote to Bishop Bradley here in the Kalamazoo Diocese reporting that info. However, it has been seen on the internet several times that Msgr. Velliam is seen singing, lecturing, and presiding at a few very public masses. It appears that Archbishop Moolakkat misrepresented the situation to the CDF. The Diocese of Kalamazoo is currently trying to get someone at the Vatican to speak with the Archbishop and encourage him to not allow Msgr. Vellian to do anything that could bring scandal to the church or that would allow him access to sexually abuse any other young people!

I happen to be that young 15 year old that was sexually abused by Msgr. Vellian back in 1975. I can guarantee you it was NOT a lie, it was NOT made up! He made me think I was special, he made me think he was my confessor and mentor, and he started buying my gifts, and then he started to sexually molest me. This went on for two years. The pastor at the church walked in on us one time with Msgr. Vellian laying on top of me and did or said nothing other than telling me to get back to my office where I volunteered. I went home and told my mother what happened and she told me I must have misunderstood his touches because a priest would never do that. That is exactly what Fr. Vellian was telling me. When he fondled me he said he was praying for me, he was asking the Holy Spirit to enter into me - and my Holy Spirit was located in my chest right where he was fondling me. He also told me he was from a mission in India - that was a medical mission, and he wanted to “examine my private areas” to see if woman in the US were built like the women in India, and that it was ok, because he worked at this medical mission and he was like a Dr. and saw these things all the time. PLEASE, I BEG you - it is all true - if there is anything you can to do help protect any other little children he might be around, or to get his Archbishop to not let him perform public ministry, I beg you to do so. It seems the bureaucracy of the Catholic Church, and the compounded problem of him having retreated to India from California when he heard of my accusations are making it very difficult to hold him accountable for his actions! I only started speaking of this about 8 years ago, after I had been through considerable counselling for anxiety and depression and PTSD. It was during this counselling that I wsa finally able to tell someone else about what happened to me. After having 2 other adults know about it and not doing anything I vowed I would never tell another soul. However, this counselor gained my trust and I finally spoke up, and that is when I made the report to my diocese, and filed a report with the police department. Our police cannot come after him, because we have a statute of limitations that does not allow for prosecution of a crime committed so long ago. So the only disciplinary avenue I have is the church. The church has not been able to get cooperation from Archbishop Moolakkatt. I know it was a long time ago, and Msgr. Vellian was relatively young at the time but I fear for any other young children he may have molested. Please pray for me as I still suffer from anxiety and fear of God because of what he did to me. Thank you.
I am very sorry this happened to you and I apologize for my misinterpretation in my earlier post. I only knew Msgr. Vellian as the Syriac scholar he was, it is very sad for a priest to fall this low. I do not know Archbishop Moolakkatt personally but I can send you some contact resources through private messaging that may be able to help you. I will pray for you.

Peace be with you.
-Thomas
 
Thank you Thomas for your kind reply. My Bishop, bless him, is going to pursue this matter with the CDF and Office for the Evangelism of Peoples at the vatican. Quite frankly, I am
so hurt and tender from all that has gone on, I can’t pursue this situation being fixed by myself any more. I am trusting my Bishop and his staff to handle it. If there is any way you could warn people around Msgr. Vellian, to NOT let him be alone with their children - or to tell the other adults and priests around him to please not let him be alone with children. He was so skilled at knowing how to make a child feel special and feel loved, which helped him to get my cooperation and silence, I believe I was not his first, nor was I his last victim. My heart aches that other children might also being hurt, because I was too embarrassed to speak up for so long.

Thank you for your help and encouragement. It IS unfortunate that such an intelligent man, has a major mental illness.

Ann
 
AMAZING! (To the original post)

To the previous replies, it is so very sad that one of our own, from the great people of S. India, would be accused of such abominations as child sex abuse.
 
I have to go against the current
East syriac is not the liturgical language. So why should it be learnt? It will block those who are otherwise qualified. In my opinion, canonisations of mar immanuel nidhiry, parammekkal thomakkathanar etc should be done against latinisation.

I go with the current and say that child abuse is wrong. Please pray that victims won’t desert the church and the criminal priests will repent.
 
East Syriac is certainly the Liturgical language of the Syro-Malabar Church. Malayalam texts are only incomplete translations.
 
East Syriac is certainly the Liturgical language of the Syro-Malabar Church. Malayalam texts are only incomplete translations.
Sorry if i am wrong.
in my understanding,

syriac was used in the past as a liturgical language.

but now, prayers are done in malayalam.

thus malayalam can be called the liturgical language. prayers are also done in english, hindi, gujarati,etc in dioseces outside kerala.

syriac masses are extremely rare. i have never seen one.
 
It doesn’t really matter which vernacular language is currently used - all are valid, English, Tamil, Malayalam, French… the Liturgical Language of the Church is the language from which our Liturgical heritage is handed down - East Syriac for the Syro-Malabars, West Syriac for the Syro-Malankara, Latin for the Romans, Slavonic and Greek for the Ukrainians, Coptic for the Copts, etc.

The modern languages will change over time, this does not change our Sacred Liturgical languages, only modernize it for proper use.
 
It doesn’t really matter which vernacular language is currently used - all are valid, English, Tamil, Malayalam, French… the Liturgical Language of the Church is the language from which our Liturgical heritage is handed down - East Syriac for the Syro-Malabars, West Syriac for the Syro-Malankara, Latin for the Romans, Slavonic and Greek for the Ukrainians, Coptic for the Copts, etc.

The modern languages will change over time, this does not change our Sacred Liturgical languages, only modernize it for proper use.
Thank you
 
Of course just my opinion but I have always believed that we as Syro Malabar Catholics have a duty to our Church not to forgot our heritage and our traditional form of liturgy, which is that of Syriac. The Syro Malabar Qurbana has three liturgical/melodious forms, Classical which is the highly Indianized version that we see today, Thuya which was the form of Qurbana which was first translated to Malayalam and still used Syriac melody, and the last is of course the Syriac form which was the original Syro Malabar Qurbana in the Syriac language and Syriac melody.

I understand what you mean Jack that having the Qurbana in the Syriac form would be challenging due to the language barrier but I truly wish we could at least revert the Qurbana back to the Thuya form which was preached in Malayalam but used Syriac melodies and tunes. The Qurbana we see today in the classical form puts too much importance on the electric keyboard which can sometimes be daunting on the ear.
 
Thank God, I’m glad your Church has made such a wise decision. I hope the sister Syriac Churches come to the same wisdom.
 
Of course just my opinion but I have always believed that we as Syro Malabar Catholics have a duty to our Church not to forgot our heritage and our traditional form of liturgy, which is that of Syriac. The Syro Malabar Qurbana has three liturgical/melodious forms, Classical which is the highly Indianized version that we see today, Thuya which was the form of Qurbana which was first translated to Malayalam and still used Syriac melody, and the last is of course the Syriac form which was the original Syro Malabar Qurbana in the Syriac language and Syriac melody.

I understand what you mean Jack that having the Qurbana in the Syriac form would be challenging due to the language barrier but I truly wish we could at least revert the Qurbana back to the Thuya form which was preached in Malayalam but used Syriac melodies and tunes. The Qurbana we see today in the classical form puts too much importance on the electric keyboard which can sometimes be daunting on the ear.
Yes let us return to the thuya form.
 
Of course just my opinion but I have always believed that we as Syro Malabar Catholics have a duty to our Church not to forgot our heritage and our traditional form of liturgy, which is that of Syriac. The Syro Malabar Qurbana has three liturgical/melodious forms, Classical which is the highly Indianized version that we see today, Thuya which was the form of Qurbana which was first translated to Malayalam and still used Syriac melody, and the last is of course the Syriac form which was the original Syro Malabar Qurbana in the Syriac language and Syriac melody.
I’m curious about the chronology: when did the Thuya give way to the so-called “classical” form? Another curiosity is I think I’ve heard recordings of Syro-Malabar Qourbané (totally in Syriac) using what sounds like chant in the “classical” form. Does that happen?
 
I’m curious about the chronology: when did the Thuya give way to the so-called “classical” form? Another curiosity is I think I’ve heard recordings of Syro-Malabar Qourbané (totally in Syriac) using what sounds like chant in the “classical” form. Does that happen?
I have never heard the Syriac Qurbana sung in such a way, it is usually completely sung in Syriac melody. Did it sound like this? This video is a wonderful mix of a Qurbana done in both Syriac and Thuya.
youtube.com/watch?v=pXDIag2FAq4 (Syriac+Thuya)
youtube.com/watch?v=8WVp-eM4jyI (Full Syriac)
youtube.com/watch?v=hIdwapPYsUM (Classical)

The Syriac form we believe was in use from the earliest days of the Syro Malabar Church to the 1960’s. Even in the days of extreme Latinization of the Syro Malabar Church where our Qurbana was basically Latin Mass, the Vatican allowed us to recite the mass in Syriac. In 1962 the Syro Malabar Qurbana was restored using authentic East Syriac manuals and liturgical research of its nature in Kerala. This reform led to its translation from Syriac to Malayalam for the very first time in history which basically created the Thuya Form.

Thuya was the direct translation of the Syriac Qurbana (and liturgical melody) with some minor alterations to the instruments used and the nature of the melodies. Of course when translating from Syriac to Malayalam, which are languages vastly apart, some alterations had to be made but basically the Thuya form took some key melodies from the Syriac Qurbana and inserted them using the Malayalam language and added some Indian instruments. Thuya hymns are all very similar to each other, some do not follow the exact same tune as their Syriac counterpart but do use Syro Malabar Syriac melodies. Sadly the Thuya form was very short lived and only lasted about 30-35 years. Today Thuya is specifically only used for the office for the dead, the new generation can only connect the thuya hymns to funerals when hearing it.

Its demise was very sadly from the “ingenuity” of some Syro Malabar priests and music artists who decided to incorporate Carnatic (South India) and thus called “classical” melodies into the hymns of the Syro Malabar Qurbana. The switch took place during the 1980s/1990s and is the form of the Qurbana which is in most use today. Why I say the Classical form can be daunting to the ear is because of the introduction of the electric keyboard into the Syro Malabar Qurbana. The electric keyboard removed the beauty of live instruments and melodies that the Syriac and Thuya form incorporated. It instead mixes and matches random assortments of Carnatic tunes (electronically) to the delight of the keyboardist into the Qurbana.

Comparisons of the different forms.

Syriac Qurbana Hymns

youtube.com/watch?v=mDNHCCsnX5c (Lakhu Mara).
youtube.com/watch?v=hEyBJQEe3Fo (Song of Remorse).
youtube.com/watch?v=bz4qtvgTdZ8 (Song of Remembrance)
youtube.com/watch?v=YKbxdmkI8mA (Onisa Drase).
youtube.com/watch?v=iHAkLd3b3GQ (Trisagion).
youtube.com/watch?v=mgu9ZqJ3IIs (Halleluyya).

Thuya Qurbana Hymns
youtube.com/watch?v=oJR8vAVEt2g (Anna Pesaha).
youtube.com/watch?v=odMGTWQQGi8 (Lakhu Mara)
youtube.com/watch?v=bkXGtK3YxsU (Song of Remorse).
youtube.com/watch?v=HPazJ0fnR38 (Song of Remembrance).
youtube.com/watch?v=1mGjaSa6zl4 (Onisa Drase).
youtube.com/watch?v=q1Dtfm-5IaU (Onnay)
youtube.com/watch?v=7E6dq_lW3D8 (Trisagion).
youtube.com/watch?v=ywTDXsc7BvU (Halleluyya).

Classical Qurbana Hymns.
youtu.be/JjL_1V5mHbk?t=21s (Anna Pesaha).
youtube.com/watch?v=5wzSCMgnLOo (Lakhu Mara).
youtube.com/watch?v=MXNSRUFrdkg (Song of Remorse) This hymn has not been changed.
youtu.be/WO9QEngJ4ZI?t=22s (Song of Remembrance).
youtube.com/watch?v=4qT7xQN7p4A (Onnay)
youtu.be/YbvM9O3lgvU?t=22s (Trisagion).
youtu.be/pjBWa18JQMU?t=22s (Halleluyya).
 
I have to go against the current
East syriac is not the liturgical language. So why should it be learnt? It will block those who are otherwise qualified. In my opinion, canonisations of mar immanuel nidhiry, parammekkal thomakkathanar etc should be done against latinisation.

I go with the current and say that child abuse is wrong. Please pray that victims won’t desert the church and the criminal priests will repent.
Just as an updated reply to your understanding of my pain, in that child sexual abuse is wrong. Your prayers that victims won’t desert the church are helpful! I was sexually abused by Msgr. Jacob Vellian when I was 14 and 15 years old (It happened over a period of 2 years). When I left my home and went to the university at age 18 I left the church. I was having anxiety attacks in the church and just could not handle sitting through a mass with a priest. HOWEVER, I am happy to say that someone must have been praying for me, because 28 years later, at the age of 46 I had gone through therapy and a small group for people that had been traumatized and over time I was able to “come back home” to the Catholic Church, praise God! I also continue to pray, as do you, that Msgr. Jacob Vellian, and any other criminal priests will repent before they die! Thank you for your understanding.
 
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