T.L.M. on Televison

[HelenRose]

If the T.L.M. is shown on television should cameras be allowed to point toward the priest’s face and the actions of the priest? Or should the camera be out in the congregation so that the television audience experiences the same Mass as the congregation?

 

[ethelzguy]

If the T.L.M. is shown on television should cameras be allowed to point toward the priest’s face and the actions of the priest? Or should the camera be out in the congregation so that the television audience experiences the same Mass as the congregation?

Very interesting question. I watched the TLM on EWTN a few nights back, and while I did notice the excellent camera work, etc., it never dawned on me what you just said.

WOW

PS. Now I wonder the same about the cloistered nuns. Are they ok with being seen on television?

 

[ProVobis]

PS. Now I wonder the same about the cloistered nuns. Are they ok with being seen on television?

As long as it brings in contributions to their order, I don’t see why not?

 

[HelenRose]

Very interesting question. I watched the TLM on EWTN a few nights back, and while I did notice the excellent camera work, etc., it never dawned on me what you just said.

WOW

PS. Now I wonder the same about the cloistered nuns. Are they ok with being seen on television?

I personally don’t think this is particularly wrong but I wonder at the rational of it.

As far as cloisters go, each community has its own rules so that could work within the purpose of each cloister.

The Mass is somewhat different in that the rules, especially for the T.L.M., are pretty well defined.

I was thinking about the television audience who is sincerely wanting to participate in a spiritual manner.

 

[ethelzguy]

I personally don’t think this is particularly wrong but I wonder at the rational of it.

As far as cloisters go, each community has its own rules so that could work within the purpose of each cloister.

The Mass is somewhat different in that the rules, especially for the T.L.M., are pretty well defined.

I was thinking about the television audience who is sincerely wanting to participate in a spiritual manner.

Oh, I didn’t mean to imply that it was “wrong”…but your earlier post was a real eye-opener. What we saw on TV wasn’t necessarily what today’s TLM attendee was looking for.

 

[JReducation]

If the T.L.M. is shown on television should cameras be allowed to point toward the priest’s face and the actions of the priest? Or should the camera be out in the congregation so that the television audience experiences the same Mass as the congregation?

The purpose of the priest facing away from the people is not to hide his face. In the EF the reason the priest faces the wall is to focus on the sacrifice.

Whether the camera catches his face or not the priest is not distracted unless the camera is in his face. Most likely this is not the case. Even in the OF the camera is farther from the priest than we think. That’s wha zoom button does.

As to the question regarding the Poor Clares being seen on TV that’s another issue.

St. Francis founded the Poor Clares as cloistered nuns, not as sisters. There were no such creatures as sisters until Vincent de Paul founded the Daughters of Charity.

However, St. Francis never bound the Poor Clares to the strict enclosure as the Trappistine, Benedictine or Carmelite nuns.

In fact, St. Clare left the cloister every Wednesday to have dinner with Francis and to provide him with spiritual direction. Many people don’t know that she was his spiritual director in later years after she became a Franciscan. She was also his advisor in the reform of the rule.

The answer to the question regarding the Poor Clares on TV is that it is not in conflict with Franciscan tradition.

The nuns are often interviewed on TV outside the cloister. Right now there are four or five of them in Arizona (I believe) building a new monastery. They live outside the cloister.

Poor Clares and Franciscan Friars who celebrate the EF are not as strict about it as other groups, because it’s not part of the Franciscan tradition. They are an exempt religious family. They have many exemptions that they can apply to their celebration of the liturgy that others do not have.

They also have some smal details that they include in the EF that others do not include, such as wearing the capuche when processing.

JR

 

[Spiller]

The purpose of the priest facing away from the people is not to hide his face. In the EF the reason the priest faces the wall is to focus on the sacrifice.

Whether the camera catches his face or not the priest is not distracted unless the camera is in his face. Most likely this is not the case. Even in the OF the camera is farther from the priest than we think. That’s wha zoom button does.

As to the question regarding the Poor Clares being seen on TV that’s another issue.

St. Francis founded the Poor Clares as cloistered nuns, not as sisters. There were no such creatures as sisters until Vincent de Paul founded the Daughters of Charity.

However, St. Francis never bound the Poor Clares to the strict enclosure as the Trappistine, Benedictine or Carmelite nuns.

In fact, St. Clare left the cloister every Wednesday to have dinner with Francis and to provide him with spiritual direction. Many people don’t know that she was his spiritual director in later years after she became a Franciscan. She was also his advisor in the reform of the rule.

The answer to the question regarding the Poor Clares on TV is that it is not in conflict with Franciscan tradition.

The nuns are often interviewed on TV outside the cloister. Right now there are four or five of them in Arizona (I believe) building a new monastery. They live outside the cloister.

Poor Clares and Franciscan Friars who celebrate the EF are not as strict about it as other groups, because it’s not part of the Franciscan tradition. They are an exempt religious family. They have many exemptions that they can apply to their celebration of the liturgy that others do not have.

They also have some smal details that they include in the EF that others do not include, such as wearing the capuche when processing.

JR

The sisters/nuns we see on EWTN are of two different varieties. One group are cloistered nuns, the others are religious sisters who are not cloistered…

"The Poor Clare Nuns of Perpetual Adoration (P.C.P.A.) are a Pontifical Contemplative Order of Cloistered Nuns with the privilege of Solemn Vows, Papal Enclosure, and Solemn Exposition of the Most Blessed Sacrament. The Poor Clares are part of the Second Order of Saint Francis of Assisi. Through the Vows of their Religious Profession, the Nuns consecrate their entire lives to Adoration of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Most Blessed Sacrament, solemnly exposed in the Monstrance in their Monastery Chapel.

The Poor Clare Extern Sisters live and work outside the Cloister, greeting and assisting visitors, shopping, and taking care of the public side of the Chapel."

religiouslife.com/w_poorclares.phtml