Taking a Vow of Poverty

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As I begin discerning a vocation, I can’t help but think of taking a vow of poverty. Honestly, I will be fine with giving up nearly all of my personal belongings. Here’s the thing, I am very much attached to my books. I could pretty easily give away most of them, but there are some that I would have a hard time parting with. If I took a vow of poverty, would I have to give up my bible or 10 or so other books that I am very attached to? What about prayer books, rosary beads, prayer cards etc?

Can someone explain this vow to me? Did anyone have a difficult time letting go of particularly sentimental objects?

P.S. I know not all priests (don’t all religious?) take the vow of poverty. Correct me where I’m wrong, Thanks!
 
If you think of poverty in terms of living a simple lifestyle which is not centered upon money and physical possessions, but instead upon loving Our Lord+ I think you’d reach a better understanding of what exactly a vow of poverty entails. Your Bible, Rosary and prayer cards/books are quite safe and no one would expect you to give away those. Work instead upon making your needs small and reduce your possessions down to the essentials. Do this gradually and prayerfully and when you feel that you are ready make a private vow between yourself and Our Lord+. Live your vow for a year or so and then prayerfully consider whether you are ready to make a formal vow.
 
As I begin discerning a vocation, I can’t help but think of taking a vow of poverty. Honestly, I will be fine with giving up nearly all of my personal belongings. Here’s the thing, I am very much attached to my books. I could pretty easily give away most of them, but there are some that I would have a hard time parting with. If I took a vow of poverty, would I have to give up my bible or 10 or so other books that I am very attached to? What about prayer books, rosary beads, prayer cards etc?

Can someone explain this vow to me? Did anyone have a difficult time letting go of particularly sentimental objects?

P.S. I know not all priests (don’t all religious?) take the vow of poverty. Correct me where I’m wrong, Thanks!
Techincally, the Dominican order does not include books under the vow of poverty. Indeed, most Dominicans will have a bookshelf in their cell. The book, after all, is his weapon with which he fights against whatever opposes the faith, and his desk is the cross upon which he crucifies himself, in hidden service to God’s people.

That’s not to say that a Dominican cannot contravene his vow of poverty in the way he treats his books-- but it is to say that simply the fact of owning books is not taken to be contrary to the Dominican charism and the vow, as lived, in the Dominican order. (And I do recommend that you do some reading on St. Dominic and poverty… there’s a good discussion in Guy Bedouelle’s “The Grace of the Word”-- some people don’t realize that the Dominican ideal in poverty, at its roots, is perhaps just as radical as the Franciscan ideal.)

Now, if you had asked that question of some very early spiritualist Franciscans, you might get an opposite answer. But even St. Dominic, who followed the vow of poverty most strictly of any member of the order of Preachers, owned books.

Most other orders may not deal so specifically with the issue of books, but you’ll certainly be expected to own books. At the very least, a bible and a set of breviaries (in order to pray the divine office), and likely spiritual reading (most modern saints read some sort of spiritual reading-- St. Therese had well-worn copies of the Imitation of Christ, and St. John of the Cross’s spiritual works).

The real question is… why are you so attached to these things? Is it because they are useful for your vocation? A Dominican might justify his books under the auspices of zeal for souls. After all, everything must needs be directed towards the end goal of the apostolate, which is simply the salvation of souls. And the Dominican’s books are necessary tools in his ministry for the salvation of souls. It follows, rather trivially, that he will have books.

What you need to avoid is possessiveness and hoarding. Every time a free book pops up, it isn’t necessary that you take it (and it’s very unlikely that you need all of them), and it may be salutary to prune your collection of books from time to time (honestly, you aren’t going to need many of the books you have… but many more you’ll need for the purpose of teaching or preaching).

You’ll be expected to pray the rosary, so you will need a rosary. Even if you have a rosary with your habit, like many religious orders do, you won’t always be wearing your habit. You will need a rosary. And rosaries break. At least I break rosaries. So you might as well bring your own in. Likewise, prayer cards are helpful for devotion, and necessary for remembering the deceased. How else will the souls of the faithful departed receive our prayers, unless we pray for them? You’ll get prayer cards at funerals, solemn professions for religious orders, at ordinations… and more. Place prayer cards in your bible and breviary, so that you can offer prayers for all of the people who need your grace-- either to see the beatific vision or to persevere in grace in their vocation.

When you see the life in action, you won’t be worried.

Poverty is very difficult inasmuch as you need to rely on others. Ultimately, it is about denying one’s will and growing in humility and detachment, so one can grow into union with God, and poverty, as it is lived, is a means to that, not an end in itself. Within limits, there are few strict details on how the vow of poverty must be lived… and it varies from order to order. And within any order, it varies from stricter to looser interpretations. Sure, some of this is based on rigor or laxity, but some of it is also based on a concession to human weakness and the differences of human persons. What’s important is to learn the spirit of how the vow of poverty is to be lived in the order you enter, and to strive to realize its ideal, in your specific life and circumstances. God bless,

Rob
 
This is something that has often arisen in my mind as I prepare for the possibility of becoming a consecrated religious in the Church. I have decided to also prepare for the vow of poverty by not buying things that I don’t need. I have impulses where I think I need something, but I really don’t, and I used to end up with something that I never used or needed. I think it’s a sign of spiritual maturity to do away with the physical/mental wants and desires and focus totally on your relationship with God.

A good place to start would be to incorporate a personal mortification on the basis that if you are, like me, an impulsive shopper, that you will walk around the store with the item in your hand and think about that purchase before you make it. I do this now, not only to save money, but to make sure I really need the item before I buy it. I walked into Target today and picked up two items and walked around the store, and realized close the end of my walk that I didn’t really want them (I was undecided, so that for me is a sign that I need to wait). I put both of them down and walked out empty handed.

I do the same thing with clothing. I have a few pairs of shoes, not a whole closet full, and I only buy clothing when I really need it. Sometimes I’ll go to Goodwill or Salvation Army and find some good stuff there.

I’ve heard of people giving up their TVs and videos in order to become materially poor. If you feel this is a necessary for your spiritual growth, by all means do it!

I think the most important thing is to incorporate balance in your life. If your material possessions are causing a problem, then reduce the clutter in your life. Never become so attached to one item that you get anxious when you think about giving it up. In becoming materially poor, you can become spiritually rich if you do it correctly. 😉 Make sure that you get the advice of your spiritual director and keep your ego in check. This should be a way to help you, not make you prideful in thought by saying:
Wow! Look at all they have. They don’t need that when there are so many poor people in the world. I’m better than them…
Pride is a very nasty thing and best to be avoided at all costs. God bless!
 
Thanks for the great replies everyone. To be honest, the thought of getting rid of all of my stuff is very appealing to me. I think the reason I am so attached to some of my books is because I pretty much read my way back to the church after leaving for about a year. The books that helped me find Jesus and His church are the ones that I am most attached to. However, I will follow Him wherever and do what he needs me to do. If that means giving my bible to someone who needs it, I will do that.

I’m sure my current understanding of this vow is very elementary, but I am excited to learn more.

Also, thanks for the book suggestion, Rob.
 
I basically look at it like this, If you truly love God you must forget the material world(not including your bible and rosary) and follow him. Following God requires sacrafice and no one said it would be easy. It is all part of the way we deny ourselves, pick up our cross and follow JESUS but i know this hard and you should prepare yourself incase they tell you to get rid of everything. I myself will have a hard time especially my baseball cards:D but i will make that sacrafice for JESUS and join the Franciscans.
 
The Saints tell us that it is not the possession of things that is wrong but the inordinate
attachment to them. For instance, St. Alphonsus points out that whether a bird is held
back by a rope or by a fine thread, he cannot fly. So it is the attachment to anything that can hold us back from true poverty. Jesus said: Blessed are the poor in spirit…
See, there are a number of rich people,even kings & queens, who became saints.
They were “poor in spirit”, not attached to what they had. Obviously, there is nothing
sinful in being attached to spiritual goods such as books & sacramental. But in order
to be ‘perfect’ (if indeed this is what we are seeking) then we should be ready to give
them up, No problem if a struggle is involved; just detach & forget…The objects do not
draw us to Jesus, though they can help; it is Jesus Himself who draws us. He will always
supply for all ours needs: material & spiritual. “Do not be afraid”…
 
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