i don’t disagree with one single infallible teaching of the Church. I am merely acknowledging some error judgment, and that there are exceptions. Not everything is black and white, and not everything is grey…it’s a judgment call.
The Catholic Church Catechism specifically states that it is the authoritative source for Catholic norms & moral behavior. As Catholics, we are OBLIGATED to live our lives by it’s teachings – not some of it or the points that we like but ALL of it. There is no room for a judgment call when the teaching (CCC2408 supported via CCC1753) is very clear.
2409- Even if it does not contradict the provisions of civil law, any form of UNJUSTLY TAKING and keeping the property of others is against the seventh commandment.
You just further proved my point.
Show me the where the Catholic Church Catechism, the authoritative source for Catholic norms, gives us the right or instills in us the duty, to have control over somebody else’s property because we disagree with it.
We’re not talking about what goes on, on YOUR property. You of course have a right over that because it is YOUR property. As a parent, you also have a DUTY to shape the morals of your children. You do NOT have a right to somebody else’s property on somebody else’s property UNLESS they grant you that authority.
At this point we’re going to have to agree to disagree. There are always excpetions, but we disagree on that, or at least when exceptions can be granted. Oh well.
Yes there are exceptions but the church decides what those exceptions are – not we as individuals.
We have brains, which the Church today encourages us to use. What “official teaching of the Catholic Church” condemns taking down an immoral poster, destroying an emptyl building where children are tortured, etc? The Church does not make an official statement on every single issue in existence.
No argument there. However, that does not mean we are free to go AGAINST official church teaching.
CCC2408-2409 clearly state that we do not have a right to someone else’s property. We can not take it nor destroy it. We have no right to it even for good reasons (CCC1753).
No it doesn’t but it does on this particular point.
Yes, there is. CCC2408-2409 clearly state that we do not have a right to someone else’s property. We can not take it nor destroy it.
First off, it has nothing to do with “peace at all costs philosophy” – it has to do with respect for another person’s property that we do not have a right to. Secondly, if you opinion conflicts with official church teaching, then your opinion is wrong for scripture itself tells us that the church is the fountain of truth and a fountain of truth can not spring forth a line. And thirdly, if your incorrect opinion causes others to sin, then you will share the guilt of that sin. THAT is the “so what”.
You are ALREADY in disagreement with the Catholic Church Catechism, so I guess you DO have a problem.
)I have heard orthodox priests advocate exactly that, including Father Larry Richards, Father Donald Calloway, and others whose opinions are widely respected - and who are hardly known as “sixties radicals” - anything but.
Priests, even those that appear to be orthodox ones, can still error. The official position of the church is reflected by the CCC, Canon Law, etc.
Let’s not take the CCC out of context:
And show me where do you, as an individual, have a right to judge what is just and what isn’t. Jesus gave us two main commandments – to love one another and not to judge. And what are you doing when you say that something has no right to exist? You are JUDGING … doing exactly what the Son of God told us NOT to do.
I suspect you realize that latinmasslover is not questioning the authority of the Church on taking down posters but instead is questioning the authority of the Church to have put through the provisions of Vatican II.
who died and made you the Almighty? Don’t judge my mind bud.
All anyone has to do is read your posts on other threads on CAF and they will know exactly what I’m talking about. If I’m wrong the what the heck does the authority of the Church have to do with whether one should take down a movie poster are not?
He gave us two commandments, but they are: