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carmelitegirl93
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Ok well what if you dont repent will you go to hell? what if you do the same old sin everyweek? What if your like I’ll do this now I can just go to confession later can you go to hell over that?
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PrayHarder
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It’s very basic. You MIGHT go to hell if you die with unrepented, mortal sins. I say “might” because it is ultimately up to God’s mercy. The question you will want to ask youself is, do you want to leave your eternal fate entirely up to God’s mercy? Because the Catholic Church lays out a pretty good roadmap on how to receive a better final judgement.
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linuxology
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repetitive sin is a slap to the face of God and very dangerous. I have caught myself in the rut you are in, but only prayer and perseverance can bring you out of it. Remember the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. Exercise your soul. Please pray that you can overcome this sin, because by repeating it over and over again your heart is not truly loving God. Do not let satan win… You are in battle and must put on the Armor of God. Put your trust in the Lord Jesus. Read Ephesians Chapter 6. Do not let the flesh over power the spirit. Remember the power of God is greater than the lure of sin. Turn to the Lord in the time of temptation.
I will leave the hell judgment for a conversation to God, for I am not holy enough to answer this question. Rely on God’s mercy, but don’t take it for granted. Have a conversation with God in complete silence and ask for his voice to penetrate your heart. Ask Jesus to reveal his love to you. Remember do this with a contrite heart with no earthly distractions.
1 Corinthians 10:13 ESV / 10 helpful votes
No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.
I will leave the hell judgment for a conversation to God, for I am not holy enough to answer this question. Rely on God’s mercy, but don’t take it for granted. Have a conversation with God in complete silence and ask for his voice to penetrate your heart. Ask Jesus to reveal his love to you. Remember do this with a contrite heart with no earthly distractions.
1 Corinthians 10:13 ESV / 10 helpful votes
No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.
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Holly3278
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If you die in a state of mortal sin, you go to Hell. The only way to escape Hell if you are in a state of mortal sin without going to Confession is by sincerely praying an Act of Perfect Contrition. If you have the opportunity to go to Confession and yet you fail to do so and then you die, you go to Hell. It’s as simple as that:
Catechism of the Catholic Church:
Catechism of the Catholic Church:
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linuxology
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Lets leave the judgement to God. This states that other Christians that are not Roman Catholic go to hell, which is simply false.
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TheQuestioner
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Yes
As long as you are honestly trying, and I mean honestly trying, then no.
That is the sin of presumption, so yes.
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TheQuestioner
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What Holly said was correct. If you die with a mortal sin on your soul, you go to hell.
This doesn’t necessarily mean that non-Catholics go to hell, since if God wanted to, He could absolve them before they die. But this may depend on a lot of factors (invincible ignorance and all, as well as what “would” have been had these people been Catholic). It’s not a judgment call, it’s Church Doctrine.
Though the Church does not claim to know whether a specific person was in a state of mortal sin when they died.
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linuxology
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Just to let you know many non-Catholics do confess their sins to God just not through the confession with a priest as we know it. You can not fathom the power of God’s mercy. It is on another level that no mortal can understand. What constitutes mortal sin on one’s soul? If one is not sorry for a mortal sin I can see the argument, but if one has a contrite heart and does not go to a priestly confession should they be banned from Heaven? Do not be pompous for no man deserves the right to heaven. Your attitude reflects why many Christians hate the Church due to the more Holier than Thou attitude. And by the way it is judging for you can not condemn any one to hell. You do not know the situation or the heart of another person. Let he who has no sin cast the first stone. Are you ready to do this my dear brother?
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PrayHarder
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I think many of the previous posters made a point of saying that no one knows whether or not someone is bound for Hell. I also don’t see any one individual claiming that they have the knowledge and power to condemn anyone.
Furthermore, the Church has plenty of provisions about going to Heaven for non-Catholics and those who do not receive a priestly confession before their death.
I’m tired so I’m not even going to address the “Christians hate the Church due to the more Holier than Thou attitude” comment.
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TheQuestioner
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Jesus instituted the sacrament of Reconciliation for a reason. This is the ordinary way in which one is absolved of sin. If a Catholic does not take advantage of this sacrament, then that Catholic cannot assume they will be absolved of their sins. Unless there is a reason for why the cannot confess their sins however, in this case the person is still repentant and God can (and will) have mercy. If a Catholic does take advantage of this sacrament and is truly repentant, then they will be absolved.
For non-Catholics, we have no way of knowing whether or not they will be absolved. We don’t claim they wont, since in the end this is up to God, but we have no way of knowing if they will. I’m sorry brother, but the simple fact is that the Catholic Church is the way to heaven. You have a higher chance of entering heaven by being Catholic than by any other faith. Think of it as a dart board. The center is God, and the surrounding rings are each faith, with the Catholic Church being the most immediate ring.
As for protestants, I’m sorry, but the only way into heaven is through the Church and this is Church teaching. If you die with a mortal sin on your soul you will go to hell. It is not my or anyone’s place to say who has a mortal sin on their soul, but this rule itself is true.
I have not judged anyone, i have merely presented Catholic teaching. I am not having a “holier than thou” attitude, I am just speaking about what is taught in the Church.
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goforgoal
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CarmeliteGirl93- Great questions for a “begginer” Catholic
I honestly think your parish Priest or even a religious could answer your concerns better.
If someone has the attitude of, “Oh I’ll just tell a lie all week than on Sunday Mass I’ll just go to confession” <–I could be wrong but that sounds like arrogance/pride to me but like I stated these matters should be discussed with a Priest or even a religious.
Sinning is like you’re sitting with the devil and demons mocking Jesus for all He has done for us. I often think of Jesus and all He endured just for my awful sins.
While Jesus was on the way to calvary St. Veronica and St. Simon of Cyrene helped Him out so ask them to help you out.
Prayer before Confession
Come Holy Spirit into my soul,
Enlighten my mind that I may know the sins I ought to confess,
and grant me Your grace to confess them fully,
humbly and with contrite heart.
Help me to firmly resolve not to commit them again.
O Blessed Virgin,
Mother of my Redeemer,
mirror of innocence and sanctity,
and refuge of penitent sinners,
intercede for me through the Passion of Your Son,
that I may obtain the grace to make a good confession.
All you blessed Angels and Saints of God,
pray for me,
a most miserable sinner,
that I may repent from my evil ways,
that my heart may henceforth
be forever united with yours in eternal love. Amen.
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Prayers against the Seven Deadly Sins
[2heartsnetwork.org/7deadlysins.htm](http://www.2heartsnetwork.org/7deadlysins.htm)
A website on Penance:
[fisheaters.com/penance.html](http://www.fisheaters.com/penance.html)
I highly recommend you read this book on Confession.
[tanbooks.com/index.php/Confession-Its-Fruitful-Practice](https://www.tanbooks.com/index.php/Confession-Its-Fruitful-Practice)
You can read some online:
[tanbooks.com/doct/confession_manual.htm](http://www.tanbooks.com/doct/confession_manual.htm)
Why do Catholics go to Confession? (Videos)
[catholic.org/video/?v=654](http://www.catholic.org/video/?v=654)
or
[youtube.com/watch?v=uRQCiYlrugc&feature=PlayList&p=C626D3E1EA3E26B2&index=4](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRQCiYlrugc&feature=PlayList&p=C626D3E1EA3E26B2&index=4)
God bless,
goforgoal
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linuxology
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I am not against Church Doctrine and do not want to be considered a heretic. My conversation will end with this and will silence myself for my Catholic brethren.
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PrayHarder
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This whole thread reminds me of something I wrote regarding The First Luminous Mystery. Let’s compare the Sacrament of Confession to going to the dentist. At least in the USA, the guideline is that you should go to the dentist every six months. But why is that necessary if we already have good daily brushing habits? Why do we need to see a professional since I’m sure daily brushing will be good enough? If I don’t see a dentist, can my teeth still be in good health? We know that sometimes you have to see a professional to keep your teeth in the best shape.
Now relate that to the Sacrament of Confession. Sometimes you need to see the “professional” (aka, the Holy Spirit) to give your soul a thorough cleaning that daily prayer just doesn’t fix. Yes, there are those who will make it into Heaven without the Sacrament of Confession through God’s mercy. But relying on solely no God’s mercy is not the best way of spiritual health. The best way as prescribed by the Church is to go to confession regularly. It provides you not only the gift of God’s grace, but also serves as a “gut check” when you have to address your sins. It’s like when the dentist points out that you aren’t brushing and flossing well or finds a cavity and fixes it. All of this isn’t to make you feel like you are a bad person, but instead its to show you have you can live better and be healthier.
So go to Confession and see your dentist!
Now relate that to the Sacrament of Confession. Sometimes you need to see the “professional” (aka, the Holy Spirit) to give your soul a thorough cleaning that daily prayer just doesn’t fix. Yes, there are those who will make it into Heaven without the Sacrament of Confession through God’s mercy. But relying on solely no God’s mercy is not the best way of spiritual health. The best way as prescribed by the Church is to go to confession regularly. It provides you not only the gift of God’s grace, but also serves as a “gut check” when you have to address your sins. It’s like when the dentist points out that you aren’t brushing and flossing well or finds a cavity and fixes it. All of this isn’t to make you feel like you are a bad person, but instead its to show you have you can live better and be healthier.
So go to Confession and see your dentist!
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Student09
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God is not going to force His forgiveness on anyone. If we refuse to repent, refuse to accept his forgiveness at our death, that is the unforgiveable sin and we will go to hell by our own choice.
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puzzleannie
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that is called the sin of presumption, as in, “I can just jump off this cliff and God will save me.” It is a sin because it refuses God’s mercy and forgiveness because it refuses to acknowledge what we are doing, or plan to do, is a sin, and refuses to be contrite and ask forgiveness. It is like taking $100 from my dad’s wallet because I know he would give it to me if I asked for it. I have refused to give him the pleasure of handing it to me, and refused to acknowledge it belongs to him in the first place.
at the moment of death we are given all knowledge to fully see and understand God’s love and given the last chance to repent. If we still stubbornly refuse his love and throw that mercy in his face, we ourselves jump off that cliff into hell by our own choice.
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JRKH
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Why is it when threads such as this come up there is always this same, highly predictable flow.
- The OP asks some question, “what if…(some set of circumstances)…will I go to hell”
- Someone responds with the Church teacing on the matter sayin that, "IF…(the stated circumstances are met)…then you will go to hell.
- Someone else responds accusing the person of “Judging”.
The usual response to being called on this is: “Well you cannot know the persons heart or if they repent at the last moment…” or some such thing. Which is, in effect, changing the original circumstance and introducing a new element that were not presented by the OP.
So lets all try to be clear in these matters. A specific set of circumstances proposed, will generally generate a certain specific repsonse based on Church teachings. The answer is specific to the facts as presented - Period end of sentence. This is geneally not “judgement” but teaching.
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JRKH
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Many good answers already. There is a lot of things left out of your statement above so I will simply try to answer it as I read it.
This attitude shows a grave problem with the spiritual life of the person. That problem is that they do not live the great commandment.
“YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.” This is the great and foremost commandment (Mt 22:37-38)
To continually sin - intentionally so - is not Loving God.
To not Love God is a grave matter, the first condition for s sin to be Mortal.
To believe that going to confession, without true contrition, somehow expunges the sin when you fully expect/intend to repeat the sin is folly.
So, even if the repeated sin itself is small, the mere fact of willfully repeating it in defiance of God’s salvic plan for you makes the “Root Cause” of the sin far more grave.
That root cause, in my view, is Failure to properly Love God and, as others have said, presuming on His mercy.
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Shin
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“I’ll do this now I can just go to confession later can you go to hell over that?”
Yes. In fact it’s probably a common way to do it for those who know of confession.
‘God is not mocked’, if you’re lying to yourself about the effort you’re putting into repentance and the seriousness you take it, Hell is in fact a great danger.
‘The enemies of the Lord have lied to him: and their time shall be for ever.’ “Their time shall be for ever”… Impenitent sinners shall suffer for ever. - Haydock]
Psalms 80:16
A confession in which you do not seriously intend to give up the mortal sin, period, would be false. You have to intend to repent, and do all you can for that repentance. You may fear your weakness, but you truly must mean to repent for good and not only for a time.
That includes completely avoiding near occasions of sin, that is, persons, places, things, occasions in which you almost certainly will fall into the sin that is troubling you. You have to ‘cut them off’.
Some people die after their first mortal sin before they repent, and go to Hell, at a very young age, even as children. Other people live to a ripe old age, and after many mortal sins, finally repent for good and go to Heaven. In either case, it is God’s determination, not ours and we are to be pleased with God’s judgement.
One truly can overcome sin and change one’s life with prayer and trust in God and real work and effort towards living a changed life. If you’re faking the effort or just putting it in half heartedly however… There’s that warning towards the ‘lukewarm’ in scripture we have to take to heart!
‘He who walks along a precipice, although he may not fall over, yet he trembles and often falls through that very fear. Even so, he who flies not far from sin, but keeps near to it, lives in continual fear, and often falls.’
St. John Chrysostom
‘Trust in God, O cowards, and cast your bread into the river of life; soon you shall find it in the ocean of eternity.’
St. Camillus de Lellis
‘WELL! when shall we have a mind to begin to do good?’
‘We must not be behind time in doing good; for death will not be behind his time.’
St. Philip Neri
Yes. In fact it’s probably a common way to do it for those who know of confession.
‘God is not mocked’, if you’re lying to yourself about the effort you’re putting into repentance and the seriousness you take it, Hell is in fact a great danger.
‘The enemies of the Lord have lied to him: and their time shall be for ever.’ “Their time shall be for ever”… Impenitent sinners shall suffer for ever. - Haydock]
Psalms 80:16
A confession in which you do not seriously intend to give up the mortal sin, period, would be false. You have to intend to repent, and do all you can for that repentance. You may fear your weakness, but you truly must mean to repent for good and not only for a time.
That includes completely avoiding near occasions of sin, that is, persons, places, things, occasions in which you almost certainly will fall into the sin that is troubling you. You have to ‘cut them off’.
Some people die after their first mortal sin before they repent, and go to Hell, at a very young age, even as children. Other people live to a ripe old age, and after many mortal sins, finally repent for good and go to Heaven. In either case, it is God’s determination, not ours and we are to be pleased with God’s judgement.
One truly can overcome sin and change one’s life with prayer and trust in God and real work and effort towards living a changed life. If you’re faking the effort or just putting it in half heartedly however… There’s that warning towards the ‘lukewarm’ in scripture we have to take to heart!
‘He who walks along a precipice, although he may not fall over, yet he trembles and often falls through that very fear. Even so, he who flies not far from sin, but keeps near to it, lives in continual fear, and often falls.’
St. John Chrysostom
‘Trust in God, O cowards, and cast your bread into the river of life; soon you shall find it in the ocean of eternity.’
St. Camillus de Lellis
‘WELL! when shall we have a mind to begin to do good?’
‘We must not be behind time in doing good; for death will not be behind his time.’
St. Philip Neri
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