Talk about crazy sedevacantists!

[bpbasilphx]

I’m reminded of a story about a little skete on Athos that had 8 monks who were convinced they were the absolutely last true Orthodox Christians left in the world.

When a vistor asked them if this story was true, the host said, “No. There’s been a schism. There are only 4 of us left.”

 

[cam100]

I was wondering what church/es do sedevacantists attend, considering they’re so few and probably only very few parishes exist?

There are a few churches run by sedevacantist priests, including one in my area. Fr. Morrison’s directory (traditio.com/nat.htm) for the USA lists 41 CMRI and 23 SSPV churches/missions, which are sedevacantist, and 154 independent churches, some at least of which are also sedevacantist. I also know of some sedevacantists who will attend SSPX churches when necessary. Others, I think, just stay home and engage in their own private devotions on Sundays.

 

[cam100]

The whole purpose of ExCathedra statements is clarity of meaning. They need no “interpretation”.
They say what they mean and they mean what they say.

I’d like to know your source for this information. I don’t believe any language on earth is so precise that multiple interpretations aren’t possible. Plus, history shows us that Church teachings build upon one another, so doctrine is somethimes only declared in part, and later more fully. Read Cardinal Newman’s writings on the development of doctrine for a good explanation of this.

 

[TorontoCatholic]

Ya, these guys are out there…to say the least.

Nevertheless, I enjoyed listening to the mp3s of various forms of chant in the Latin Rite from over the centuries–Ambrosian, Gallican, Corsican, and of course, Gregorian.

And they have this article written by Professor Elmar Kremer:
romancatholicism.org/jansenism/kremer-arnauld.htm

Professor Kremer is NOT a sedevacantist! He is a member of Opus Dei. He is also a professor of mine at the University of Toronto.

 

[GandalfTheWhite]

Yes, very crazy but you indeed have to give them credit for the amazing Old Roman chant!

 

[TNT]

I’d like to know your source for this information. I don’t believe any language on earth is so precise that multiple interpretations aren’t possible. Plus, history shows us that Church teachings build upon one another, so doctrine is somethimes only declared in part, and later more fully. Read Cardinal Newman’s writings on the development of doctrine for a good explanation of this.

Pope St. Pius X 1910:
“I reject the heretical invention of the evolution of dogmas, passing from one meaning to another, different from that which the Church first had.” (The Oath Against Modernism)

 

[SemperFidelis]

TNT–UNFORTUNATLEY FOR YOU–PiusIX, The council of Trent, the Catechism of Pope ST. Pius X, and the Holy Office under Pope Pius XII disagree and dont interpret EENS the way you do------

Not to mention all these “folks”, Councils, and Catechisms:

Pope Innocent III (A.D. 1216)
St. Bonaventure (Doctor, A.D. 1270)
St. Thomas Aquinas. (Doctor, A.D. 1274)
St. Catherine of Siena (Doctor, A.D. 1380)
Pope St. Pius V (A.D. 1572)
Council of Trent (A.D. 1563)
St. Charles Borromeo (A.D. 1584)
St. Robert Bellarmine (Doctor, A.D. 1621)
St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori (Doctor, A.D. 1787)
Bishop George Hay (A.D. 1811)
Fr. Michael Muller (A.D. 1875)
Dom Gueranger (A.D. 1875)
Blessed Pope Pius IX (A.D. 1878)
Orestes Brownson (late nineteenth century)
Pope St. Pius X (A.D. 1914)
Pope Benedict XV (A.D. 1922)
Pope Pius XII (A.D. 1958)
Msgr. Joseph Fenton
Second Vatican Council (A.D. 1965)

Not to mention countless others, including most of the early Church Fathers.

And here’s some Catechisms that teach Baptism of Desire and Baptism of Blood:

Catechism of Summa Theologica of St. Thomas Aquinas
The Catechism of the Council of Trent
The Baltimore Catechism
Catechism of St. Pius X
This Is The Faith by Canon Francis Ripley
My Catholic Faith
The Catholic Catechism
Catechism of the Catholic Church