Talking too much in class

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I have a six year old daughter who will not stop talking in class (1st grade). She gets two warnings (as much as you can get before going to the principal) every day. She is also very loud. I know she can control her talking, she only gets two warnings. Her teacher is frustrated, I’m frustrated. We have given her time-outs, taken away favorite toys, no dessert, writing “lines” (I will not talk in class etc) no TV and it has no effect. I need some new ideas here! Help!
 
Ask her if she would like you to become her constant companion in class, at recess and in lunch.
That may be the only motivation she needs, it really worked for my cousin when we were growing up.
 
Define “talking in class.”

Talking out of turn when students are supposed to raise their hand?

Gabbing with whoever happens to sit next to her in class?

Talking to herself?

What is she talking about? (Little kid gossip, how to do something the teacher instructed, what she did last weekend, etc.)

Is she a nervous child or a relaxed and outgoing child?

Does she like school?
 
Sounds a little like the teacher needs to isolate her. I know this might sound cruel but having your daughter face her desk against a wall and away from others might help her. She just may have way too much temptation to talk to her classmates etc. if they are ‘visible’ to her. Also, at this point, she may be the one getting caught doing the whispering because the others know she will get caught (you said she was loud) - sadly some chldren like to see others get in trouble.

Still, suggest she get separated from the others by having her face a wall while doing desk work.

Like PrincessAbby said, more information about the what, why, and when she is talking will help in us give you more help.

Also, how new is the teacher? A new teacher may not have all the strategies down yet and may need to be mentored and is too afraid to ask for help.

Brenda V.
 
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Princess_Abby:
Gabbing with whoever happens to sit next to her in class?

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That was me 37 years ago.
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Don’t make her feel bad.
Try to reason with her.
Talk it out.
Don’t squelch her for a lifetime.
 
Although I understand what Brenda is saying, and I agree it might be a solution, I really would hate to see her get isolated. When I was a kid in school I remember the kid that was being isolated becoming a target for the other children. Kids at that age adore their teachers so much that they get the idea that if the teacher has problems with a child, that child must be different, and not to be socialized with.

Is she an extremely active child at home, and does she talk a lot at home too, often interupting the family? I have a four year old like this, and I refuse to let her interupt any longer…I just recently realized that she was hogging the conversation, and being the “baby” we were allowing it…but no more…we are fighting this now.
 
wisdom 3:5:
I have a six year old daughter who will not stop talking in class (1st grade). She gets two warnings (as much as you can get before going to the principal) every day. She is also very loud. I know she can control her talking, she only gets two warnings. Her teacher is frustrated, I’m frustrated. We have given her time-outs, taken away favorite toys, no dessert, writing “lines” (I will not talk in class etc) no TV and it has no effect. I need some new ideas here! Help!
Oh gosh “wisdom3.5” this is a hard one. I do say let her suffer the consequences of her actions at school. Do not “ground” her at home, or get too involved at this point. She will eventually get the idea that too much talking will get her recess taken away or something like this. She’s only 6, and little precious ones have to learn the consequences and responsibilities of being in a group and what is expected. I think the best thing for YOU is to just forget about it. It’s causing needless and unnecessary grief for you. She’ll learn in time. Believe me, my kids are all over 12, we’ve been there, done that. Let them learn for themselves.
You let go, and enjoy your life! Go have a manicure tomorrow, OK?
Luv,
Sparkle
P.S. Your concern in admirable! You’re a great mom for sure!
 
For my ADD daughter, constant talking is a problem! She can’t seem to stop herself 🙂 —KCT
 
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sparkle:
I think the best thing for YOU is to just forget about it. It’s causing needless and unnecessary grief for you. She’ll learn in time. Believe me, my kids are all over 12, we’ve been there, done that. Let them learn for themselves.
You let go, and enjoy your life! Go have a manicure tomorrow, OK?
Luv,
Sparkle
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Just…forget about it?

Wisdom, I think you’re doing the right thing in wanting to be involved in the solution. Good for you for realizing that only you know your child best and only you can provide adult insight into her personality, coping mechanisms and behavioral patterns that you notice at home–things a teacher may miss when observing 30 other little tykes, but which can be important in addressing the problem. Your (name removed by moderator)ut into any behavioral issue during her school years will ALWAYS be necessary and invaluable.

A disconnect between home and school is NEVER a good thing.
 
Squelch it now, before she grows up, gets married, and drives her husband CRAZY!!!

:bigyikes:

😃

DaveBj
 
Disruptive as it may be, I hate to tell you to totally squelch her. I was the chatterbox in my kindergarten class, which got me in trouble- notes sent home, comments on the report cards, etc. By the time I got to 6th grade, I was completely silent- only spoke in school if forced to. I still won’t willingly speak in front of multiple people, more than 20 years later.

Honestly, I remember being bored in kindergarten. I already knew how to read, print, and do simple math, so what else is a 5-year-old supposed to do when the teacher is spending hours on stuff that she already knows? Maybe this is your daughter’s problem as well. Try asking her if she’s bored, and what might be done to alleviate her boredom. One of my kindergarten teachers addressed this very skillfully (we moved halfway through that school year and so this teacher was at my “first” kindergarten): she would occasionally split the kids up, work with one group, and have me (or other kids who were already readers) read a story to the other group while her aide supervised.
 
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SeekerJen:
Honestly, I remember being bored in kindergarten. I already knew how to read, print, and do simple math, so what else is a 5-year-old supposed to do when the teacher is spending hours on stuff that she already knows? Maybe this is your daughter’s problem as well. Try asking her if she’s bored, and what might be done to alleviate her boredom. One of my kindergarten teachers addressed this very skillfully (we moved halfway through that school year and so this teacher was at my “first” kindergarten): she would occasionally split the kids up, work with one group, and have me (or other kids who were already readers) read a story to the other group while her aide supervised.
I was thinking the same thing. Usually if a child already knows how to do what the class is learning, say she already reads well or already writes well, she could be bored.

I wonder about this with my now 4-year-old who already reads quite a bit, already writes her entire name and her sister’s and multiple other words and already does basic addition and subtraction. I think she’d be bored by the time she’d be “ready” for 1st grade by age standards. I mean, we’re planning to homeschool, so it’s not an issue, but she’d probably be the talker in that situation.
 
hmmm, depends on when she is doing it. I don’t allow interupting because 1. it’s just rude and 2. you have to listen before speaking to learn anything.

**If it’s not interupting then I agree with sparkle - ignore it. It’s very likely just a part of who she is and she’ll find an outlet for it if given time. You know MOST children hate speaking in front of people, this is often an ability teachers and parents spend good money to encourage their children to be able to do! Maybe you could put her in a drama class or choir or etc… **

Keep in mind there’s probably about 18-20 other 6 yr olds in the class and teachers have a tendancy to clamp down pretty hard to get control. Your dd may not really be a problem, just a source of aggravation to her teacher. I have a hard time believing it’s not possible to find a positive outlet for this dc.
 
Thanks for all your (name removed by moderator)ut!

My girl is a very friendly vivacious child. She does have some trouble focusing (we use a kitchen timer at mealtimes or else she takes up to an hour to eat because of her talking!). This might be part of the problem because she doesn’t “see” how much time she has. On the other hand, when she’s coloring or doing her workbooks at home she’s completely silent.

I’m not all that clear on how or why she is talking or what she is saying. She was saying last night that she talks about her work to the other kids (maybe helping them or them helping her - I’m not sure yet). This morning she said that the boy that sits in front of her “cracks her up” and tries to make her talk. I told her that she should raise her hand and tell her teacher. She said, “then Chris will get in trouble.” It may not be only one situation.

The teacher is not new. She did have maternity leave last year so she didn’t know my daughter in kindergarten. Its a small school and all the teachers know all the students. Conferences are coming up so hopefully we can get to the bottom of this.

My daughter is on the younger side of the class too. Her birthday is in May and she is 6. Almost all of the kids in her class are 7 already and will turn 8 during the year.

I laughed when I read the post about sitting with her in class. . . she would LOVE that. She goes nuts when I do lunch duty and she’s always asking me when its my turn again. I’ll keep that advice in mind for when she gets to be a teenager ;)!
 
wisdom 3:5:
Thanks for all your (name removed by moderator)ut!

My girl is a very friendly vivacious child. She does have some trouble focusing (we use a kitchen timer at mealtimes or else she takes up to an hour to eat because of her talking!). This might be part of the problem because she doesn’t “see” how much time she has. On the other hand, when she’s coloring or doing her workbooks at home she’s completely silent.
That sound exactly like my four year old. I think if we can get a handle of this at home, they might do better at school. Lilly wakes up talking and goes to bed, and when I can get her to stop talking, finally sleeps.

I am now continually telling her to stop interupting, it is not her time to talk until whoever is speaking has stopped, and now, Lilly, you can talk. It goes right along with sharing (which she struggles with also) Talking and not interupting is sharing if you think about it! So…I’m going to work on this with her at home, and hopefully next year she’ll be ready to share the air!

She is talking to me as we speak! Gotta go! 😃
 
Brenda V.:
. I know this might sound cruel but having your daughter face her desk against a wall and away from others might help her.

Still, suggest she get separated from the others by having her face a wall while doing desk work.
I strongly do not advise having your teacher separate her.

My son’s kindergarten teacher used this approach on him for much of the school year. It was devastating in many ways and actually the ramifications of that act took a few years to reverse.

How did it adversly impact my son? (who later was found to have ADHD)

The other children in the class saw him/her as separated - and at that age they are inclined to associate it with being bad or different. We noticed that when the teacher moved him away from the group, the other kids treated him poorly ( mocked him, and called him names - this was a Catholic school, mind you) and saw him as bad. I had one child approach me and ask why my son was so bad.

I also had a few moms approach me to discus my son as well.

When he was separated, he was not able to build the skills needed to socialize properly - thus had few (actually no) friends. He lost a significant amount of self esteem - and at age 5, this is where the self esteem should be part of the basic foundations and should not be eroded. The self esteem rebuilding is what has taken a few years to reclaim.

Not a wise idea in my opinion. There have got to be better ways out there to deal with a chatty person than isolation at this age.
 
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Lillith:
Although I understand what Brenda is saying, and I agree it might be a solution, I really would hate to see her get isolated. When I was a kid in school I remember the kid that was being isolated becoming a target for the other children. Kids at that age adore their teachers so much that they get the idea that if the teacher has problems with a child, that child must be different, and not to be socialized with.

Is she an extremely active child at home, and does she talk a lot at home too, often interupting the family? I have a four year old like this, and I refuse to let her interupt any longer…I just recently realized that she was hogging the conversation, and being the “baby” we were allowing it…but no more…we are fighting this now.
Jrabs…we are in agreement 👍
 
I agree with everyone about isolating children at so young an age. When they are older (around 10 or so) that is more effective because all kids are at or approaching the age of reason and know there was a behavior to be dealt with and the person is fine.
 
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Princess_Abby:
Just…forget about it?

Wisdom, I think you’re doing the right thing in wanting to be involved in the solution. Good for you for realizing that only you know your child best and only you can provide adult insight into her personality, coping mechanisms and behavioral patterns that you notice at home–things a teacher may miss when observing 30 other little tykes, but which can be important in addressing the problem. Your (name removed by moderator)ut into any behavioral issue during her school years will ALWAYS be necessary and invaluable.

A disconnect between home and school is NEVER a good thing.
I totally disagree with PA’s post above. As a parent myself, I feel you will need to disengage at some point. It is a totally normal and inevitable fact that eventually we parents, around the globe, will all learn, that when you have children, you come to the realization that their decisions are just that, their decisions. And there just might be consequences to suffer for their decisions, all the same. We need to teach our kids this. Despite your precious, being only 6, OP, let her make these decisions and learn from them, and this, she will do. Rest assured. Yes, it is very admirable that you are concerned about such. Indeed, but I’m afraid, this is just one of the learning experiences she will have to face in her life. 🙂 Good Luck to you!! and God’s Blessings as a Fellow Parent~~
Sparkle~~
“Train up a child in the way he/she should go, and even when they are old, they will not depart from it.” Proverbs 22:6
 
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sparkle:
“Train up a child in the way she should go, and when she is old, she will not depart from it.” Holy Scripture (forgot where)
We are both welcome to our own opinions, but I think you misuse this quote for the OP’s situation. A six year old is still being trained. (Obviously, or she wouldn’t have problems with talking out of turn or inappropriately.) She needs parental involvement, as any child does.

OP, is there a time in the classroom that is periodic freetime or independent worktime? I remember consulting once for a child with Asperger’s who coulddddddddddddddddd notttttttttttttttttttttt stopppppppppppppppppppppp talking. He so wanted to be friendly and relate to his peers. However, part of the problem was that it was NEVER okay for this child to talk and it seemed to bubble up in him to the point where he would be agitated if he wasn’t able to speak. (Recess time wasn’t enough for him, as it was more a time when his peers were busily playing kickball or soccer and not interacting.) When I met her, the teacher was so frustrated with him that ANY talking would land him a warning card and he’d be isolated on a daily basis by noontime.

I suggested the teacher use a “stoplight solution.” She agreed that it was not absolutely imperative that the classroom be utterly silent at all times. There were, of course, many times that silence WAS needed and very important (during testing situations or during read aloud or actual teaching time, etc). However, since she was fighting for silence ALL the time, she was getting it the least when she most needed it.

She decided to post a large stoplight at the front of the classroom with a green, red and yellow light (laminated construction paper). It worked in such a way that allowed her to flash only one light at a time, signaling to the children that “Red Light” meant absolutely no talking. “Yellow Light” meant occasional whispering was okay, whether to ask a peer a question or to borrow something, etc. Talking should be minimum, but the teacher is not jumping down every child’s throat for any sound uttered. “Green Light” means regular indoor voices can be used and talking is encouraged. This can be used for art or group work or free time, etc. But each day should have one small period of “Green Light” time, even just 10-15 minutes worth. Group work is a natural part of learning, so this generally isn’t hard to get–ESPECIALLY in 1st grade, when so much is hands on.

If the teacher found that “Yellow Light” talking was becoming too loud, she would give one warning and then if the class as a whole could not return to “Yellow Light” voices, then she would turn the stoplight back to “Red Light.” This worked well because peers would encourage each other to “shhhhh we have to be quiet!” and show displeasure if one child in particular got too loud and didn’t control it. The same went for “Green Light.” The social reinforcement of keeping voices under control really worked for this child. Plus, the whole class is working together and it’s not just about one child being singled out as a loud, incessant talker. Your child sounds like a social butterfly and I’m sure she doesn’t want to displease her friends. Sometimes reminders from other students work well.

Also, if the little boy in front of her “cracks her up” (sorry, but how cute is that) maybe the teacher can decide “okay guys, time to change desks!” and strategically move her to a seat partner that won’t tempt her into talking so much.

I don’t know how open the teacher is to solutions from you, but that really worked in this particular classroom. The child was secure in knowing that eventually the stoplight would turn to “Green Light” and he would get some talk time. “Yellow Light” was also frequent, as it was used during independent work time which happened every single morning. Full out conversation wasn’t allowed, but it was okay to ask a peer a question and this was comforting to the child.

Just my suggestions! 🙂
 
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