Talking with my Jehovah's Witness cousin?

[godo4657]

I’m very close to my cousin who is a JW, and his favourite subject to talk about is the Bible… Recently I asked him if he believed that Catholics are Christians, and eventually he answered ‘no’. I asked him why, and he said because of our works and actions. He said he had talked with other Catholics before, only to hear stories of drinking and partying. This turned into a long conversation about our faiths, and for every single thing I said or asked about his faith, he gives me a Bible verse. Even when I thought I had stumped him, he throws another verse at me. I know a lot about Jehovah’s Witnesses, and I know quite a bit about Catholicism. But I don’t know how to prove my faith to him, all he wants are Bible verses, and I’ve rarely studied the Bible at all… And I must admit he has some pretty good points sometimes, but I just don’t know how to respond. How can I talk with him about our faiths without him ‘winning’ all the time? (Btw, he’s 26 and I’m 16).

 

[Tietjen]

I’m very close to my cousin who is a JW, and his favourite subject to talk about is the Bible… Recently I asked him if he believed that Catholics are Christians, and eventually he answered ‘no’. I asked him why, and he said because of our works and actions. He said he had talked with other Catholics before, only to hear stories of drinking and partying. This turned into a long conversation about our faiths, and for every single thing I said or asked about his faith, he gives me a Bible verse. Even when I thought I had stumped him, he throws another verse at me. I know a lot about Jehovah’s Witnesses, and I know quite a bit about Catholicism. But I don’t know how to prove my faith to him, all he wants are Bible verses, and I’ve rarely studied the Bible at all… And I must admit he has some pretty good points sometimes, but I just don’t know how to respond. How can I talk with him about our faiths without him ‘winning’ all the time? (Btw, he’s 26 and I’m 16).

My suggestion is to study up a little bit. Below is a link to a very well written BASIC apologetics booklet dealing specifically with the JW beliefs. Start there (maybe get the entire set - They’re all very good). Best of luck.

shop.catholic.com/product.php?productid=33&cat=10&page=1

 

[Bluegoat]

You need to get a reading plan for the Bible. It isn’t a fast fix, but it is very worthwhile.

 

[oneGODoneCHURCH]

I’m very close to my cousin who is a JW, and his favourite subject to talk about is the Bible… Recently I asked him if he believed that Catholics are Christians, and eventually he answered ‘no’. I asked him why, and he said because of our works and actions. He said he had talked with other Catholics before, only to hear stories of drinking and partying. This turned into a long conversation about our faiths, and for every single thing I said or asked about his faith, he gives me a Bible verse. Even when I thought I had stumped him, he throws another verse at me. I know a lot about Jehovah’s Witnesses, and I know quite a bit about Catholicism. But I don’t know how to prove my faith to him, all he wants are Bible verses, and I’ve rarely studied the Bible at all… And I must admit he has some pretty good points sometimes, but I just don’t know how to respond. How can I talk with him about our faiths without him ‘winning’ all the time? (Btw, he’s 26 and I’m 16).

I make sure i these talks to have a bible with me, not his.
What are some of the points he is making?
Do not argue. Stay calm.

Here is another point I would make,

jwfacts.com/watchtower/jehovah.php

Almighty God was referred to by a number of names and titles in the Old Testament. Jews traditionally say there were 7 names. One of these names was YHWH. The letters YHWH are named in Hebrew Yod-Heh-Waw-Heh. The Jewish Encyclopaedia states (as of 25/09/2005) at jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=52&letter=N;

“Of the names of God in the Old Testament, that which occurs most frequently (6,823 times) is the so-called Tetragrammaton, Yhwh ( ), the distinctive personal name of the God of Israel. This name is commonly represented in modern translations by the form “Jehovah,” which, however, is a philological impossibility.”

but to really be of help need to know exactly what he is saying.

and as others have said read your bible.
As for his claims against the way some catholic live their lives that can not be held against the Chruch just those people.

 

[T_More]

I’m very close to my cousin who is a JW, and his favourite subject to talk about is the Bible… Recently I asked him if he believed that Catholics are Christians, and eventually he answered ‘no’. I asked him why, and he said because of our works and actions. He said he had talked with other Catholics before, only to hear stories of drinking and partying. This turned into a long conversation about our faiths, and for every single thing I said or asked about his faith, he gives me a Bible verse. Even when I thought I had stumped him, he throws another verse at me. I know a lot about Jehovah’s Witnesses, and I know quite a bit about Catholicism. But I don’t know how to prove my faith to him, all he wants are Bible verses, and I’ve rarely studied the Bible at all… And I must admit he has some pretty good points sometimes, but I just don’t know how to respond. How can I talk with him about our faiths without him ‘winning’ all the time? (Btw, he’s 26 and I’m 16).

I was a JW for 25 years. Try this with him on this link. I don’t think the guy on here is Catholic, but he is very good at proving the Trinity with JW’s. (Make sure you watch part 2 as well)

youtube.com/watch?v=0xo6FH9tTt4

Ask him things like:

Do you know were the bible came from? Who decided what made up the bible?

He says he doesn’t think Catholics are Christians because of their actions. Ask him does he not think there have been good Catholics in the past? Jesus did not promise that his followers would not sin. He didn’t promise that we would not make mistakes, stumble and fall. I would go to this website below, which is made up of Ex-JW’s who became Catholics. It is an excellent resource for debating with your cousin. Do not be afraid, they don’t know scripture as well as they think they do.

catholicxjw.com/index.html

Let me know where it goes with him and I’ll try to help the best I can. I still have alot of their literature too if you want to question him about it. And don’t forget, pray, pray, pray!

 

[yellowbird]

If you have only a little Bible knowledge, and you try to go up against your cousin who has been taught and practices weekly how to prove his point, you are going to lose the argument every single time. The fact that you said he has made some “good points” shows how cunning and convincing they are.

JWs are a cult. They twist scriptures to fit with their beliefs. Since their relatively brief history, they have repeatedly claimed to speak for Jehovah and foretell events that are about to take place. Guess how many times they things they claimed were about to happen actually DID happen? Zero. Not once have they got it right. The Bible warns of these sorts of people who claim to speak in His name. God says we should flee from them. Do a google search “Jehovah’s Witness False Prophecies” and see what comes up… pages and pages of their wacky views and predictions that failed. My advice, love your cousin, pray for him, and DON’T discuss religion. If he enjoys discussing religion, suggest he come to this website. Many would LOVE to discuss the JW faith with him.

Interesting fact: JWs must report the amount of time they spend in their “ministry work” talking to others about their religion. I am certain your cousin is keeping track of his “time” he spends trying to “teach” you the truth. TRUST me… you don’t even want to go there.

Been there, done that,
yellowbird.

 

[Maribelsan]

Excellent points! I am sure to use them and learn more about JWs too. I have a few friends that belong to that cult and they do have to spend a few hours every weekend to meet their quota. Thank you and God bless!!

 

[catsrus]

Our Catholic “works and actions”!?
Ask him to be specific…exactly WHAT work and EXACTLY what action.
Jws slay me with their holier than thou nerve and attitude. Google “jw scandals” and be prepared for some eye opening material.

 

[OraLabora]

And there’s the issue of which Bible. Theirs is a very poor (and self-serving) translation, which helps them “prove” their points.

They might twist a little more if you insist on using a scholarly and approved translation of the Bible.

 

[Nicea325]

I’m very close to my cousin who is a JW, and his favourite subject to talk about is the Bible… Recently I asked him if he believed that Catholics are Christians, and eventually he answered ‘no’. I asked him why, and he said because of our works and actions. He said he had talked with other Catholics before, only to hear stories of drinking and partying. This turned into a long conversation about our faiths, and for every single thing I said or asked about his faith, he gives me a Bible verse. Even when I thought I had stumped him, he throws another verse at me. I know a lot about Jehovah’s Witnesses, and I know quite a bit about Catholicism. But I don’t know how to prove my faith to him, all he wants are Bible verses, and I’ve rarely studied the Bible at all… And I must admit he has some pretty good points sometimes, but I just don’t know how to respond. How can I talk with him about our faiths without him ‘winning’ all the time? (Btw, he’s 26 and I’m 16).

Ask him why the JW’s prior to 1950,if I am correct, used the KJV Bible,which clearly teaches Jesus is God and now use the NWT JW Bible? Ask him if Jesus is NOT God and is a ‘perfect’ creature then how can a ‘perfect’ creature redeem humanity and save as well? I thought ONLY God can save,not any creature?

 

[wmscott]

I was a JW for 25 years. Try this with him on this link. I don’t think the guy on here is Catholic, but he is very good at proving the Trinity with JW’s. (Make sure you watch part 2 as well)

youtube.com/watch?v=0xo6FH9tTt4

Ask him things like:

Do you know were the bible came from? Who decided what made up the bible?

He says he doesn’t think Catholics are Christians because of their actions. Ask him does he not think there have been good Catholics in the past? Jesus did not promise that his followers would not sin. He didn’t promise that we would not make mistakes, stumble and fall. I would go to this website below, which is made up of Ex-JW’s who became Catholics. It is an excellent resource for debating with your cousin. Do not be afraid, they don’t know scripture as well as they think they do.

catholicxjw.com/index.html

Let me know where it goes with him and I’ll try to help the best I can. I still have alot of their literature too if you want to question him about it. And don’t forget, pray, pray, pray!

I listened to the youtube debate, I was amazed how Jeff Durbin took the JWs own bible and beliefs and turned it on them. At one point the JW was even speechless and dumfounded. Maybe a seed was planted. I only wish I was as consummate a debater as Jeff is. Thanks

 

[Alexander_Roman]

That is the point - the New World Translation is completely “redone” to fit in with JW theology. Although they will say they will use ANY bible translation, that is simply being disingenuous. The JW’s do not allow their members to read any other literature than what is published by them.

Chris Evert’s book on Jehovah’s Witnesses is MUST reading and study for this purpose.

A couple of them came by my place some time ago and I stuck to the first verses of John’s Gospel “The Word was God.” Their argument on the basis of Classical Greek grammar was interesting, but the New Testament was written in Koine Greek. When asked who translated their version of the bible, they always say that is unimportant since the translators do not seek the praise of me. One may always assure them that their “translation” will not receive too much praise from too many . . .

I found that by keeping them focused on one or two things and not letting them move around, one may win the day. After the two left my door, I went out and followed behind them, continuing with my “Catholic propaganda” .

As we passed by houses of my neighbours, I would yell out “Watch out, Bill, these are Jehovah’s Witnesses! They are after your soul!!”

The Witnesses did not appreciate that nor my approach.

It was meant in good fun however - please understand!

I have even better fun with Mormons - they always send the most uninformed members of their church (and who seem to lack a sense of humour . . .:sad_yes:

But all kidding aside, they just don’t like it when you want to “pray about” things. I knew an Orthodox priest who used to want to asperse them with Holy Water when they showed up.

They didn’t appreciate that approach either . . .

Alex

 

[Nicea325]

I was a JW for 25 years. Try this with him on this link. I don’t think the guy on here is Catholic, but he is very good at proving the Trinity with JW’s. (Make sure you watch part 2 as well)

youtube.com/watch?v=0xo6FH9tTt4

Ask him things like:

Do you know were the bible came from? Who decided what made up the bible?

He says he doesn’t think Catholics are Christians because of their actions. Ask him does he not think there have been good Catholics in the past? Jesus did not promise that his followers would not sin. He didn’t promise that we would not make mistakes, stumble and fall. I would go to this website below, which is made up of Ex-JW’s who became Catholics. It is an excellent resource for debating with your cousin. Do not be afraid, they don’t know scripture as well as they think they do.

catholicxjw.com/index.html

Let me know where it goes with him and I’ll try to help the best I can. I still have alot of their literature too if you want to question him about it. And don’t forget, pray, pray, pray!

Niicceeeee… Jeff did a pretty good job of making those JW’s stumble. What I have yet to hear anyone ask the JW’s why they believe a ‘perfect’ creature as Jesus could redeem and save,when salvation comes through God ALONE? Where does the Bible teach a ‘perfect’ creature would redeem humanity and save?

 

[mtolympus]

I’m very close to my cousin who is a JW, and his favourite subject to talk about is the Bible… Recently I asked him if he believed that Catholics are Christians, and eventually he answered ‘no’. I asked him why, and he said because of our works and actions. He said he had talked with other Catholics before, only to hear stories of drinking and partying. This turned into a long conversation about our faiths, and for every single thing I said or asked about his faith, he gives me a Bible verse. Even when I thought I had stumped him, he throws another verse at me. I know a lot about Jehovah’s Witnesses, and I know quite a bit about Catholicism. But I don’t know how to prove my faith to him, all he wants are Bible verses, and I’ve rarely studied the Bible at all… And I must admit he has some pretty good points sometimes, but I just don’t know how to respond. How can I talk with him about our faiths without him ‘winning’ all the time? (Btw, he’s 26 and I’m 16).

I am not Catholic but I think we are in agreement that Jesus Christ is divine and that He is Jehovah who appeared to the prophets of the Old Testament. Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe this, but here are a few Bible verses from the KJV that show this is true:

The divinity of Jesus Christ is unquestionable: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (John 1:1) (emphasis added)

Jesus Christ is Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament: “And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.” (Exo. 6:3)

Jesus Christ is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Jacob told his son Joseph in a blessing: “His hands were made strong by the hand of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel).” (Gen. 49:24)

Jesus Christ is the Shepherd of Israel: “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” (Matt. 15:24)

Paul taught us that the Rock who provided the spiritual drink received by the children of Israel was Christ: “Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink; for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them; and that Rock was Christ.” (1 Cor. 10:1-4)

Jesus Christ was named as the God of Moses in the book of Hebrews:“By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter; Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt.” (Heb. 11:24-26)

When God appeared unto Moses, he asked God to tell him his name so he could tell the children of Israel who had sent him to them: “Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.” (Exod. 3:13-14)

Who was the God known to Moses as “I AM?” Jesus identified himself as this God in a conversation with the Jews: “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Then took they up stones to cast at him.” (John 8:56-59)

The Jews scoffed at the idea that Jesus, who was not yet fifty, had seen Abraham. Jesus then told them that he was that I AM. It is clear that the Jews understood exactly what he meant, for they immediately picked up stones to throw at him.

 

[Nicea325]

I am not Catholic but I think we are in agreement that Jesus Christ is divine and that He is Jehovah who appeared to the prophets of the Old Testament. Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe this, but here are a few Bible verses from the KJV that show this is true:

The divinity of Jesus Christ is unquestionable: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (John 1:1) (emphasis added)

Jesus Christ is Jehovah, the God of the Old Testament: “And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.” (Exo. 6:3)

Jesus Christ is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Jacob told his son Joseph in a blessing: “His hands were made strong by the hand of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel).” (Gen. 49:24)

Jesus Christ is the Shepherd of Israel: “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” (Matt. 15:24)

Paul taught us that the Rock who provided the spiritual drink received by the children of Israel was Christ: “Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink; for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them; and that Rock was Christ.” (1 Cor. 10:1-4)

Jesus Christ was named as the God of Moses in the book of Hebrews:“By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter; Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt.” (Heb. 11:24-26)

When God appeared unto Moses, he asked God to tell him his name so he could tell the children of Israel who had sent him to them: “Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.” (Exod. 3:13-14)

Who was the God known to Moses as “I AM?” Jesus identified himself as this God in a conversation with the Jews: “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Then took they up stones to cast at him.” (John 8:56-59)

The Jews scoffed at the idea that Jesus, who was not yet fifty, had seen Abraham. Jesus then told them that he was that I AM. It is clear that the Jews understood exactly what he meant, for they immediately picked up stones to throw at him.

Frankly I am at awe with JW’s and their deep denial and rejection of Christ divinity. The Bible is covered with verse after verse clearly showing Christ is God.

 

[ariel7978]

One thing I recently learned is this; when speaking to a JW, it is important to use their OWN Bible to show them that many of their doctrines are unscriptural. They will not be convinced if you make a point from your own Bible.

Furthermore, the divinity of Jesus is the central doctrine that divides Christians from JWs. We believe that Jesus is true God and true man…they believe that Jesus is ONLY a man. You must discuss the Person of Jesus before getting into any other JW doctrines.

Here are some quotes taken directly from my apologetics book that may help you (Beginning Apologetics, Chacon, Burnham). These Bible versus are from the NWT Bible.

"MT 1:23: “Look! The virgin will become pregnant and will give birth to a son, and they will call his name Immanuel, which means, when translated, 'With us is God” (NWT).

JWs admit that this is a prophecy about Jesus, who is called Emmanuel (God is with us). Note here that Jesus is referred to as “God,” not “a god.” The JWs say that God, with a capital “G” always refers to Jehovah, the one true God. Therefore Jesus, Emmanuel, is truly God.

John 20:28-29: "In answer Thomas said to him: “My Lord and my God!’ Jesus said to him: ‘Because you have seen me have you believed? Happy are those who do not see yet believe’” (NWT).

Thomas says to Jesus, “My Lord and my God.” Notice that Jesus accepts the worship of Thomas. Instead of correcting Thomas, Jesus praises those who would believe that He is the risen Lord and God without having to touch His wounds.

John 14:19: “Jesus said to him: ‘Have I been with you so long a time, and yet, Philip, you have not come to know me? He that has seen me has seen the Father [also]’” (NWT).

Jesus tells us that seeing Him is the same as seeing the Father. Thus He states that He is equal to the Father.

Col 2:9: “because it is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality swells bodily” (NWT).

St. Paul stresses that the fullness of the Godhead, the fullness of divinity, is in Jesus.

Isaiah 43:11: “I - I am Jehovah, and beside me there is no savior” (NWT)
Titus 3:6: “This [spirit] he poured out richly upon us through Jesus Christ our Savior” (NWT).
Titus 3:4: “However, when the kindness and the love for man on the part of our Savior, God, was manifested…” (NWT).

In Isiah 43:11, we are told that there is no savior besides God (Jehovah). In Titus 3:6, Jesus is called the Savior. In Titus 3:4, Jesus is called “our Savior, God.” Therefore, Jesus, our Savior, is God. It is important to recognize that these passages refer to a very unique type of Savior who must necessarily be divine because He redeems the entire human race. No mere creature can be called a savior in this special sense.

The JWs attempt to explain the above passages away by noting that Othniel is called a savior in Judges 3:9 because he delivered Israel from its enemies. Remind them that the word “savior” here is used in a very different and more limited way. Anyone can be called a “savior” in the sense of rescuing or protecting someone. But this more limited meaning cannot be applied to the above Bible verses which speak of a unique and divine savior.

Isaiah 9:6 (9:5 in some Bibles): “For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace” (NWT).

All JWs agree that this is a prophecy about Jesus the Messiah. Yet, this Messiah is called “Mighty God.” This couldn’t refer to the Father because this person is “a child born to us.” This passage can only refer to Jesus, the “Mighty God.”

Rev 1:8: ‘"I am the Alpha and the Omega,’ says Jehovah God, ‘the one who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty’" (NWT).
Rev 22:12-13: “Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end” (NWT).

In Rev 1:8, Jehovah God is called “the Alpha and the Omega.” In Rev 22:13, Jesus is also called “the Alpha and the Omega.” Therefore, Jesus is equal to Jehovah God.

Deut 10:17: “For Jehovah your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords…” (NWT).
Rev 19:16: “And upon his outer garment, even upon his thigh, he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords” (NWT).

In Deut 10:17, we are told that Jehovah God is Lord of lords; in Rev 19:16, we are told that Jesus is Lord of lords. Again, Jesus’ position is the same as Jehovah’s.

Mt 28:19: “Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy Spirit” (NWT).

The disciples are commanded to baptize in the NAME (not names) of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The Son and the Holy Spirit are listed as separate persons from the Father, yet they are given equal status with the Father. Note that the name is singular because there is only one God. We have in this verse a clear teaching of the doctrine of the Trinity: three distinct persons in one God.

JWs insist that Jesus is only a god, not The God. In Isaiah 44:6, God says “besides me there is no God.” In 1 Cor 8:4-6, St. Paul tells us that there is only one God, and that other 'gods" are false gods. The JWs say that Jesus is “a god.” They changed John 1:1 to say, “the Word [Jesus] was a god.” all other translations besides NWT say, “the Word was God.” since the Bible makes clear that there is only one true God, and the JWs say that Jesus is not this God, but only “a god,” they are really saying that Jesus is one of the many false “gods” mentioned in the Bible. There is no middle choice: either Jesus is the one true God, or he is a false god. Ask JWs to tell you which they believe."

Hopes this helps!!!

 

[campeador]

You need to get a reading plan for the Bible. It isn’t a fast fix, but it is very worthwhile.

Good advice.

 

[SnakeMauler]

I’m very close to my cousin who is a JW, and his favourite subject to talk about is the Bible… Recently I asked him if he believed that Catholics are Christians, and eventually he answered ‘no’. I asked him why, and he said because of our works and actions. He said he had talked with other Catholics before, only to hear stories of drinking and partying. This turned into a long conversation about our faiths, and for every single thing I said or asked about his faith, he gives me a Bible verse. Even when I thought I had stumped him, he throws another verse at me. I know a lot about Jehovah’s Witnesses, and I know quite a bit about Catholicism. But I don’t know how to prove my faith to him, all he wants are Bible verses, and I’ve rarely studied the Bible at all… And I must admit he has some pretty good points sometimes, but I just don’t know how to respond. How can I talk with him about our faiths without him ‘winning’ all the time? (Btw, he’s 26 and I’m 16).

Given that you are related and you’re under age, feel free to use physical violence.

 

[Pepband_Mom]

Alexander Roman: Chris Evert is a 50 + yr old retired World Tennis Champion from the 1970’s - however, JASON Evert’s book on JW’s (book cover on upper right column of this thread) is unquestionably essential. READ IT, GET THE MAIN TALKING POINTS ABOUT JESUS’ DIVINITY & THE TRINITY down; don’t get sidetracked necessarily on blood, voting, etc.
(I tend to get long winded but I’m a Mom, ya know!)

JW’s & groups like them will twist you like a pretzel if you are UNPREPARED as they are trained to do so each week they attend - I know this, my JW coworker & I have discussed this for years now resulting in much reading & research on my part. But as far as the missionaries go, don’t let them run the show. Write up your talking points before you meet with them & stick to them, see the catholic.com site for Stumpers!

But be joyful and be nice (See the MOM in me again!)

Actually the book “inside Mormonism” by former RC Priest - turned Mormon - turned RC again Isaiah Bennett has an interesting chapter on Apostasy. But with these groups, their “in” is that the Church failed & amazingly they all claim to be “The Church” - How can 30,000 - 50,000 denominations each exclusively claimed to have “restored” the “Church”? (The RCC is not a Denomination; it is THE CHURCH
rather the right lung & the left lung is the Orthodox as JP2 used to say)

However, groups frequently have different meanings for words such as : Jesus (Michael the Archangel), Holy Spririt (Active force) etc. Their Jesus and your Jesus ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME PERSON! Watch word meanings.

DO YOUR HOMEWORK & Don’t think they can’t win you over. Or best to stay away & pray for them.

It doesn’t hurt to get CORAPI-IZED!

Fr. John Corapi’s shows on EWTN are barn burners chocked full of information - He always says to KNOW THE CATECHISM and KNOW YOUR FAITH!

Bottom line: pray your Rosary, go to the MASS frequently; Prayer is vital. Hey, even find a group of nuns or prayer group to lift you up as well as the person you want to discuss these issues with!

Remember, We are 1 body in CHRIST & We have 1 head - JESUS CHRIST Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow (Hebrews) Not an angel not merely a man but the GOD-MAN

good job ariel 7978

 

[MarianaLeonor]

Hi

You will find at : catholicxjw.com/services.html two PDF docs, one to warn people about Jehovah Witnesses: “False prophecy is ending”; and one for JWs, to make them think: “Worldwide message to JWs”. Download them and try showing him the points on the second one.
Another GREAT source of matter of fact info is www.jwfacts.com, where even plain Watchtower statistics prove they are no better any other religion and in fact have a higher turnover rate than other religions (many JW children leave as adults, other adults doubt and leave). There you will also find all the mistakes in he doctrines.

All the best with enlightening him, pray for the holy spirit to be with you.
Mariana:thumbsup: