Taming the "Lust Monster"

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DO NOT make a VOW to NEVER do the thing again. I did this with cigarette smoking and, it worked just fine. I was able to quit cold turkey. I tried this with my “lust monster” vice, and failed & failed again. Eventually I got in the habit of putting my morals on hold, succumbing to the vice, and then took my morals off hold, and felt remorse. But I had lost all resolve to solve the problem. That’s giving up on addiction, folks. Bad formula!
With the mentality that you are going to limit yourself instead of cutting yourself off, you necessarily accept the fact that you are going to do it again. When dealing with grave matter, this is not a good option. Allowing yourself to sin is never the right thing to do.

For those trying to quit, I say make that vow and remember that with God (this is key) all things are possible.
 
With the mentality that you are going to limit yourself instead of cutting yourself off, you necessarily accept the fact that you are going to do it again. When dealing with grave matter, this is not a good option. Allowing yourself to sin is never the right thing to do.

For those trying to quit, I say make that vow and remember that with God (this is key) all things are possible.
By vow, I mean a promise to God. By making a vow and breaking it, one incurs the 1st sin plus the sin of breaking the vow. The firm resolve to amend your ways in confessional is sufficient. By the way, when I told the priest in confessional that I had made the vow, he told me that I should not have done that. The reasoning is pretty much the same as the scripture passage where Jesus cautions against swearing. You should say “yes” when you mean “yes”, and “no” when you mean “no”, and anything else is from the evil one.
 
With the mentality that you are going to limit yourself instead of cutting yourself off, you necessarily accept the fact that you are going to do it again. When dealing with grave matter, this is not a good option. Allowing yourself to sin is never the right thing to do
Right. To limit yourself, surrender then is an option. However, Its true, not all battles are won. If you should fall, go down fighting the good fight. Never surrender. If you go into the fight limiting yourself to success, you except failure from the start. You except surrender to the enemy as an option. Whats up with that?

I am not saying its easy. Its a tough, tough, battle. If you do fall, get back up on your two feet, put your shoulders back and take your proper place on the field. Forget this stepwise approach stuff. What do the scriptures say? Be hot or cold.
 
Since you brought it up… Would a100lb weight gain and a loss of both legs due to compliations from diabetes effect your physical relationship?

What’s sad to see that large numbers of perfectly natural women going to these plastic (butchers) surgeons to get breast augmentations, lip implants, nose jobs, butt lifts. etc… Now THAT is shallow! The word “sexy” is juvenile and crude as well.

A woman’s God given natural beauty is a gift to be shared with her husband. In concert with her intellectual and spiritual dimensions, a woman’s physical attractivensss strengthens the marital bond. For a woman to neglect this aspect of herself is to leave her husband extremely vulnerable to temptation and sinful lust that this culture embraces.

You have missed the point of the original post entirely. :rolleyes:
I understand what you’re saying man.

Sometimes I wish my wife would wear more high heels and skirts. LOL. Ok I’m kidding…sort of 😛

But overall, I LOVE Melissa with all my heart, and would never, ever leave her, even though I’ve sinned badly in the past (as she has too). She is my wife, and I am her husband, together as one:)

God forbid if anything ever happened where we weren’t together anymore, I think I’d become a monk. Besides, I couldn’t handle another female 😃
 
I think that the Twelve Steps as published by Alcoholics Anonymous is sound advice for working to overcome addiction of any kind, including the “lust monster”.

As you read it, doesn’t it sound like examining your conscience, going to confession, doing penance and making reparation for sin?
  1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable.
  2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
  3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
  4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
  5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
  6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
  7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
  8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
  9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
  10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
  11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His Will for us and the power to carry that out.
  12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
 
DO NOT make a VOW to NEVER do the thing again. I did this with cigarette smoking and, it worked just fine. I was able to quit cold turkey. I tried this with my “lust monster” vice, and failed & failed again. Eventually I got in the habit of putting my morals on hold, succumbing to the vice, and then took my morals off hold, and felt remorse. But I had lost all resolve to solve the problem. That’s giving up on addiction, folks. Bad formula!
It is a dreadful thing to go into a confessional and promise God that you will NEVER masturbate again KNOWING that eventually even though you don’t want to…you are probably going to do it again! 😊

I would be willing to bet that 9 times out of 10 times that this particular sin is confessed, the penitent falls before 30 days passes. This is the reality of the issue.

When the desire to masturbate hits and you KNOW you are about to fall, why compound your guilt by viewing pornography? Fight the desire to the best of your ability by prayer, cold shower, whatever it takes. but if you KNOW you are going to fall, try to land on the grass… not the concrete! 😉 Why would you risk the slightest possibility of having your children find this garbage in your house or on your computer?

Marriages have been destroyed because wives have found pornography on the family computer or in the sock drawer! Men would be wise to abandon this stuff immediately. Cold turkey on the porn is the only way. The key is to focus all sexual energy into your marriage bed, while striving to become the most loving and giving husband you can be. 👍

Am I advocating sin? Absolutely not! I am suggesting that in order to clean up and free the soul from the grips of this monster called “lust” which manifests itself in habitual masturbation you must remove as many external influences as possible. My main point is that cutting off pornography which is the **fuel source **for this vice is relatively easy. It’s a small but critical victory in the war against lust. I believe that most men would love to give up masturbation but keep coming back to it because they don’t know how to get out. Meanwhile porn industry revenue has surpassed that of all professional sports combined!

Is masturbation a sin? Should we be doing our best to stop? Of course! But If the “STOP ALL LUST HABITS AT ONCE” approach is tried time after time… year after year and met with failure after failure a different approach is obviously needed.

If one is making progress toward holiness then it is a sign that grace is working in your life. Given time, patience, regular confession, prayer and God’s grace this habit can be stopped.
 
I hate pornogrophy, never really “enjoyed” it. My main problem was (sometimes IS) simply watching woman in erotic clothing dance, or view certain fetish sites I dare not mention.

But the end result is masterbation. I went to confession last saturday for it 😦

Man, “masterbation” is such a gross word isn’t it?:o
 
During some of the heaviest prayer time in my life, I have been assaulted violently by temptation. Unforgiving, arduously severe trials that rocked me to my very core.

I can remember writing a book of prayers, and having Christ powerfully present in my soul, then to be tried viciously by hearing my neighbors having sex on ecstasy for hours. I didn’t know such a degree of pure pleasure existed. I couldn’t believe this was happening to me, and it took me a long time to recover fully from that assault. By recover I mean for the memory and the feelings I had during their raging sex to be forgotten.

It seemed to me to be a cruel joke, that God had allowed Satan to completely defeat me, and like Job I cursed the day I was born, I was so unhappy. I utterly gave up on piety.

But St. Teresa of Avila spoke to me soon after telling my heart “His Majesty [the Lord] . . . rewards great services with trials, and there can be no better reward, for out of trials springs love for God.”

and

“Let him never cease from prayer who has once begun it, be his life ever so wicked; for prayer is the way to amend it, and without prayer such amendment will be much more difficult.”
St. Teresa of Avila

I HIGHLY recommend the Imitation of Christ by Thomas Kempis for everyone but especially those who are daily assaulted by lusts.

Victory is on the dawn
 
I hate pornogrophy, never really “enjoyed” it. My main problem was (sometimes IS) simply watching woman in erotic clothing dance, or view certain fetish sites I dare not mention.

But the end result is masterbation. I went to confession last saturday for it 😦

Man, “masterbation” is such a gross word isn’t it?:o
Here’s the thing about porn… The mind of the Christian man absolutely hates it. However the body and brain deeply enjoys it like a steak dinner to a starving man. To the flesh (body & brain) of nearly all men, porn is one of the most physically pleasurable experiences, even at times exceeding physical relations with a living breathing woman. The reason for this is simple.

Just like a well drawn caricature of a famous person can look MORE like that person than a photograph, porn takes the physical aspects of male/female intimacy and exagerates them. Some women achieve a very similar false intimacy by reading trashy romance novels although I don’t think masturbation is quite as common… but I could be wrong.

Porn is Satan’s incredibly crafted counterfeit of the deepest expression of human love. Because porn almost always results in physical release through masturbation, it is incredibly self-reinforcing.

Once porn and masturbation are separated, porn starts to lose it’s power. Obviously it’s best NOT to masturbate, but if you KNOW you are about to fall, give yourself permission to skip the porn! Afterward, say an act of contrition and be thankful that porn is no longer a part of your life. Ask God for help in purifying your thoughts so that your desire to masturbate goes away completely. This may take time! This sin is like a fire that will never go out until the fuel source is gone!

If you are struggling with this habit, throw away all porn and clean up what is coming into your mind through your eyes and ears… pray every day… attend regular confession.

The ultimate goal is to focus ALL of your sexual energy into the marriage bed in a loving and giving manner as God intended. If you are single, ask God to send you a good catholic wife or give you the grace to live a life of celibacy! 😉
 
This is where wives and be a tremendous amount of help by taking care of their health and keeping up their appearance.

Contrary to popular belief, the way to a man’s heart is NOT through his stomach… it’s through his eyes

I have kept up my physical appearance and my husband and I have a great sex life but this statement scares me now that I am getting older. I want to try and grow old gracefully because that is how God made us but I am so tempted to get cosmetic surgery especially when I read things like this. You men need to understand how painful it is for a woman to know that she will not be able to able to give her husband the pleasure of her physical beauty anymore and that he will be looking at younger women. I am crying as I write this. I have started to keep a picture of Mother Theresa with me to help me get through this pain (that just gets worse every time I look in the mirror) because my priest told me that no one would ever think that she was anything but beautiful including her physical appearance.
 
This is where wives and be a tremendous amount of help by taking care of their health and keeping up their appearance.

Contrary to popular belief, the way to a man’s heart is NOT through his stomach… it’s through his eyes

I have kept up my physical appearance and my husband and I have a great sex life but this statement scares me now that I am getting older. I want to try and grow old gracefully because that is how God made us but I am so tempted to get cosmetic surgery especially when I read things like this. You men need to understand how painful it is for a woman to know that she will not be able to able to give her husband the pleasure of her physical beauty anymore and that he will be looking at younger women. I am crying as I write this. I have started to keep a picture of Mother Theresa with me to help me get through this pain (that just gets worse every time I look in the mirror) because my priest told me that no one would ever think that she was anything but beautiful including her physical appearance.
Dear onmyknees,

I pray that your husband will love you and see you grow more and more beautiful as the years goes by. Of course, physical appearances should be kept at our best, since it is a gift given by God but I’m sure that your husband will always look at you as beautiful as always.
As people say life is a journey, a process. So, your beauty also lies in your struggles to stay physically healthy. I’m very sure (although haven’t experience it)that many people who are happily married after many years, is due to the struggles they have been through together.
If your husband looks at younger girl, then it is the work of the Devil. As long as he does not do anything else, he’s still being faithful to you. Do not worry. Pray when in doubt.
Although one is old, doesn’t mean they do not have their natural beauty. Have faith in yourself. Do not have to resort to cosmetic surgery. Be thankful for how you look and I’m sure your husband will agree as well. A change in attitude brings about the inner beauty of a woman. By worrying about this, your beautiful smile will be hidden most of the time, and God would not want you to be sad. Hope I can comfort you a little.🙂
 
This is where wives and be a tremendous amount of help by taking care of their health and keeping up their appearance.

Contrary to popular belief, the way to a man’s heart is NOT through his stomach… it’s through his eyes

I have kept up my physical appearance and my husband and I have a great sex life but this statement scares me now that I am getting older. I want to try and grow old gracefully because that is how God made us but I am so tempted to get cosmetic surgery especially when I read things like this. You men need to understand how painful it is for a woman to know that she will not be able to able to give her husband the pleasure of her physical beauty anymore and that he will be looking at younger women. I am crying as I write this. I have started to keep a picture of Mother Theresa with me to help me get through this pain (that just gets worse every time I look in the mirror) because my priest told me that no one would ever think that she was anything but beautiful including her physical appearance.
Onmyknees, don’t take their comments to heart. Those 2 statements are some of the most whacked-out things I have ever read on Moral Theology. I have just about lost all respect for this forum. No wonder my confessor looks at me funny when I make a confession and am so hard on myself due to things I read on this particular forum.

MOST MARRIED MEN LOVE THEIR WIVES! No matter what they look like! What these 2 have said above are about the most shallowest things I have ever read! Do not take it to heart!
 
You men need to understand how painful it is for a woman to know that she will not be able to able to give her husband the pleasure of her physical beauty anymore and that he will be looking at younger women.
Well, that’s a powerful thing you have written. Its not fair that you should have this pressure.

In the culture I live in, all types of plastic surgery and implants are common. I like it, however, I would hope that the person has done it for themselves, and not another and most definitely not under the conditions you have just written about. To keep your husband from straying.

I would say that if you were crying while you wrote that post, it would be a good idea to get some professional support. Some reality checks from the outside.
 
I have kept up my physical appearance and my husband and I have a great sex life but this statement scares me now that I am getting older. I want to try and grow old gracefully because that is how God made us but I am so tempted to get cosmetic surgery especially when I read things like this. You men need to understand how painful it is for a woman to know that she will not be able to able to give her husband the pleasure of her physical beauty anymore and that he will be looking at younger women. I am crying as I write this. I have started to keep a picture of Mother Theresa with me to help me get through this pain (that just gets worse every time I look in the mirror) because my priest told me that no one would ever think that she was anything but beautiful including her physical appearance.
Dear lady, you must remember that your husband is growing older right along with you. From my honest perspective as a man approaching the age of 50, Let me assure you that I no longer see young women in the same light as when I was younger. One of the more silly things I see happening in our modern culture is women over the age of 40 getting cosmetic surgery. The natural beauty of the maturing woman is every bit as desireable to men. Your natural physical beauty is STILL one of the most powerful forces known to man. My wife and I are growing older together, we both have hair that is graying and we’ve picked up a few pounds, but that’s all part of life and I love her more deeply than ever.

I cannot speak for all men, but from the perspective of most Christian men that I know, us guys develop a much deeper appreciation for the inner beauty of a woman the older we get.
The vast majority of us older guys recognize an attractive young woman when we see one, but we don’t really find them desirable in that way.

The comment in my original post about women keeping up their health and appearance was really directed at women who think that they can neglect their appearance and it will not effect the sexual dynamics of the marriage. The fact is that some people become lazy slobs a few years after the wedding. We live in a pornographic culture that exploits man’s God given physical desire for his wife and is very capable of robbing us of this aspect of marital intimacy if we aren’t careful. When women allow laziness and apathy into their lives, their husbands will become easy prey for Satan’s relentless attacks.

Your effort to keep up your appearance is a big part of why the “home fires” are still burning nicely. Your inward beauty as well as your natural physical beauty is a wonderful gift that you are sharing with your husband. Rest in confidence that your husband loves you just as much as ever! GOD BLESS YOU! 👍
 
MOST MARRIED MEN LOVE THEIR WIVES! No matter what they look like! What these 2 have said above are about the most shallowest things I have ever read! Do not take it to heart!
To me, there is nothing more beautiful than growing older together. From that first kiss on the front porch at age 16, through the decades of marriage, family and faith, through midlife, all the way through the physical pains and sufferings that come with old age and the inevitable loss of the other through death. This is the path of true marital love as God intended.

Men’s physical desires are awakened primarily though the eyes. God designed men this way. Women who *neglect *their appearance are doing their marriage and their husband a disservice by making their husbands significantly more vulnerable to Satan’s powerful attacks. To deny this is to deny reality. There is NOTHING shallow about it! 🙂
 
I have kept up my physical appearance and my husband and I have a great sex life but this statement scares me now that I am getting older. I want to try and grow old gracefully because that is how God made us but I am so tempted to get cosmetic surgery especially when I read things like this. You men need to understand how painful it is for a woman to know that she will not be able to able to give her husband the pleasure of her physical beauty anymore and that he will be looking at younger women. I am crying as I write this. I have started to keep a picture of Mother Theresa with me to help me get through this pain (that just gets worse every time I look in the mirror) because my priest told me that no one would ever think that she was anything but beautiful including her physical appearance.
You need to change your attitude! As someone said, your husband is getting older too. I am also a woman getting older (approaching 40) and part of me wishes that I was still a young philly, but if I were a young philly again, I’d also be insecure and naive again.

I have kept up my physical appearance also and my husband appreciates it so much and we too have some good fires burning in the bedroom. The frequency is less, but that’s because we have a baby.

I have also noticed that our society does see the beauty of older women - if she is young at heart and takes care of herself, she will always be attractive. Not only that, but I have had men come up to me and say, “Your husband is one lucky guy. He’s not going anywhere!”

You may look in the mirror and see wrinkles, but other men look at you and say, “She looks great. Her husband is one lucky guy!”

You need to see that too and as another poster said, most older men change too and begin to notice inner beauty more than just physical appearance. Most older men couldn’t be bothered with a younger woman anyway - too much work; older women are more understanding and patient.

Your husband might look, but we also look at younger men too 😃
 
Thank you everyone for all your words of support, caring, and helpful advice. It did comfort me . I guess I myself placed a lot of importance on how I looked my whole life. I got a lot of attention from men. My mother always wanted her daughters to look beautiful and she would say something to us if we did not meet her expectations. My sisters got more of her criticism because God gifted me with more beauty. I am seeing a psychologist but my priest has helped me more than her. I get really dismayed when I see that most of the older women on tv are beautiful and that cosmetic surgery is common place now. It makes it so much harder when I feel like hardly anyone else will be growing old naturally.
Yip Yup Yep,
In the culture I live in, all types of plastic surgery and implants are common. I like it, however, I would hope that the person has done it for themselves, and not another and most definitely not under the conditions you have just written about. To keep your husband from straying.

This upsets me that you like it and that you think it is ok if it is done for oneself. If I got plastic surgery it would be for myself too. As Catholics are we not supposed to die to self and not be vain.
 
This upsets me that you like it and that you think it is ok if it is done for oneself. If I got plastic surgery it would be for myself too. As Catholics are we not supposed to die to self and not be vain.
It is so pervasive around here, its just a part of life. Ladies and gentlemen alike, but much more so with ladies. Affordable too. What is vain? If you ask an Amish lady, she would say one thing, a Yankee lady from the same area would say another. Coloring your hair, whitening your teeth, I could go on and on. The Amish would say its all vanity. Maybe you are right. I don’t know.

In my post, I said I like it, and I do. Does that mean I sin in my heart? No Not at all. I do my level best to look at the female person without lust coming into it.

"A woman named Shirley was from Beverly Hills. One day, she had a heart attack and was taken to Cedars Sinai hospital. While on the operating table, she had a near-death experience. She saw God and asked, “Is this it?”

God said, “No, you have another 30 to 40 years to live.”

Upon her recovery, she decided to stay in the hospital and have collagen shots, cheek implants, a face lift, liposuction and breast augmentation. She even had someone dye her hair. She figured since she had another 30 to 40 years, she might as well make the most of it.

She walked out of Cedars Sinai lobby after the last operation and was killed by an ambulance speeding up to the hospital. She arrived in front of God and said, “I thought you said I had another 30 to 40 years?”

God replied, “Shirley! I’m sorry but I didn’t recognize you!”
 
Hi Yip Yup Yep,
Thank you for that story. It made me smile. May I ask for your prayers. I know I will need lots of help and prayers to get through the rest of my life. I’ll pray for you and everyone else too.
 
I got a lot of attention from men. My mother always wanted her daughters to look beautiful and she would say something to us if we did not meet her expectations. I get really dismayed when I see that most of the older women on tv are beautiful and that cosmetic surgery is common place now. It makes it so much harder when I feel like hardly anyone else will be growing old naturally.
Well if it’s any help, I too was a woman of beauty when I was younger, but I found it to be more of a hinderance than anything else. Sure, I was always being asked out and treated with “royalty” just because I was pretty. It was really disheartening though because men just wanted me for sexual pleasure or to show off to their friends. I always felt undervalued and disrespected because I was a university student / graduate and professional woman and I was always resorted to a pretty girl.

Men always stopped calling because I wouldn’t sleep with them - I was even told that I was uptight once by a man I was dating. It was so frustrating.

Oh…and women were the worst! I was always referred to as a blond bimbo by woman who were “just joking”.

Then I finally met my husband :o

My experience is that when you are young and pretty, it can be a very lonely experience. It’s glamourized in our society, but it’s not all it’s cracked up to be.

I find now that I’m taken more seriously and people listen to me more. I’m still pretty, but it’s a different kind of pretty. I have experience, wisdom and inner beauty…oh yeah and a few wrinkles here and there :rolleyes:

I hope this helps from woman to woman…also you should read Pope John Paul’s Letter to Women. It’s very powerful.
 
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