Taxes and morality

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Why is it morally right for the government to take money from someone who works and pays taxes and give it to someone who doesn’t work and pay income taxes? (i.e. unearned income credit.) If I work for “the man” and make $48,000 and “the man” makes $350,000, what right do I have to get some of his money?
 
The government raised funds by user fees and tarrifs on goods, not income before 1913. An income tax is forced/coerced and is thus immoral. My money is unjustly taken from me to fund programs I would not if I had the freedom to contribute to the causes that interest me.

An income tax is immoral and was specifically excluded from the Constitution which is why an Amendmemnt is required. The 16th Amendment may very well be illigitmate law as it quite possibly was not properly ratified as required.
 
Dave Ramsey is very interesting right now. If you can tune him in, I recommend doing that. He has posed the question I asked and is getting some great feedback.
 
Lampo said:
Why is it morally right for the government to take money from someone who works and pays taxes and give it to someone who doesn’t work and pay income taxes? (i.e. unearned income credit.) If I work for “the man” and make $48,000 and “the man” makes $350,000, what right do I have to get some of his money?
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You’re essentially also asking why one with Marxist roots should be leader of the free world. They should not.
 
If taxes are so immoral then the last thing we want to do is tax health care benefits. And pay the proceeds to the insurance companies. Whose ridiculous idea is that?
 
goofyjim said:
If taxes are so immoral then the last thing we want to do is tax health care benefits. And pay the proceeds to the insurance companies. Whose ridiculous idea is that?
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Why is it ridiculous? Because your favorite brand of deceiving two bit shyster shakedown artist of a politician didn’t think of it first? Any legitimization of forced coercion that justifying a government doing what you or I would be thrown in jail for is the same rational that can be used for justifying taxing any employer benefit. It doesn’t matter if it is stock options or life insurance or employer paid health insurance, tuition assistance paid time off anything and everything can legitimately be taxed. It all springs from the same wrong. The 13th amendment is perpetuating an evil, in this case theft for some self defined greater social good. In a totalitarian society that we are now becoming it is all the same.
 
In the Old Testament it says to sacrafice the best 10% to god, and to leave 1/3 in the field to be gleaned by widows and orphans, that 43.5% today in the US we pay about 40.5% taxes and give about 2% to the church which is ~43.5%.
 
Lampo said:
Why is it morally right for the government to take money from someone who works and pays taxes and give it to someone who doesn’t work and pay income taxes? (i.e. unearned income credit.) If I work for “the man” and make $48,000 and “the man” makes $350,000, what right do I have to get some of his money?
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Who said it was morally right?
 
1ke said:
Who said it was morally right?
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Good point. Jesus was pretty neutral on the morality of tax systems, so there is not much we can say one way or another. All said was that if the government levies taxes, we have to pay them:mad:
 
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Why is it ridiculous? Because your favorite brand of deceiving two bit shyster shakedown artist of a politician didn’t think of it first? Any legitimization of forced coercion that justifying a government doing what you or I would be thrown in jail for is the same rational that can be used for justifying taxing any employer benefit. It doesn’t matter if it is stock options or life insurance or employer paid health insurance, tuition assistance paid time off anything and everything can legitimately be taxed. It all springs from the same wrong. The 13th amendment is perpetuating an evil, in this case theft for some self defined greater social good. In a totalitarian society that we are now becoming it is all the same.
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You insinuate I support the “shyster”. I don’t support either shyster, thank you.
 
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