Teachers 'beat and abuse' Muslim children in British Koran classes

[cathopologist]

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Teachers ‘beat and abuse’ Muslim children in British Koran classes

Muslim children are being beaten and abused regularly by teachers at some British madrassas - Islamic evening classes - an investigation by The Times has found.

Students have been slapped, punched and had their ears twisted, according to an unpublished report by an imam based on interviews with victims in the north of England. One was “picked up by one leg and spun around” while another said a madrassa teacher was “kicking in my head - like a football”, says the report which was compiled by Irfan Chishti, a former government adviser on Islamic affairs.

When Imam Chishti, a religious education teacher who also runs the Light of Islam Academy in Rochdale, decided to carry out his own investigation into the problem he was shocked by how even the victims had grown to accept the abuse. “They all joked about it,” he said. “There’s a culture that accepts it.”

Imam Chishti said that part of the problem was that some madrassa teachers were ignorant of British law. Corporal punishment was banned in state schools in 1986 and in all schools in 1998. Under current law teachers acting in loco parentis may use only “reasonable punishment” such as a smack, providing it does not cause any marks or bruising.**

 

[cathopologist]

MOSQUE leaders and community members have hit back at an unpublished report by a Rochdale imam who has claimed students at some madrassahs are being regularly beaten and abused by their teachers.
http://www.theasiannews.co.uk/news/s/1084881_madrassah_beating_claims_is_scare_tactic
Imam Irfan Chishti, a former government adviser on Islamic affairs and religious education teacher who runs the Light of Islam Academy on Milkstone Road, Rochdale, compiled the report based on interviews with victims in madrassahs in the north of England.
http://www.theasiannews.co.uk/news/s/1084881_madrassah_beating_claims_is_scare_tactic
But cabinet member for community cohesion, Councillor Mohammed Sharif said mosques in Rochdale had been working quite closely with the council in addressing the issue and many teachers had even participated in child protection courses.
http://www.theasiannews.co.uk/news/s/1084881_madrassah_beating_claims_is_scare_tactic
He said: "I have been working closely with mosques and as far as I know in the last year and a half there have been no cases of any physical abuse at these Islamic evening classes.http://www.theasiannews.co.uk/news/s/1084881_madrassah_beating_claims_is_scare_tactic
"We have been working closely with the council and the police to address this issue.
http://www.theasiannews.co.uk/news/s/1084881_madrassah_beating_claims_is_scare_tactic
"I believe there are incidents of this kind but it’s very rare.http://www.theasiannews.co.uk/news/s/1084881_madrassah_beating_claims_is_scare_tactic
“This is just yet another story to put Muslims in a bad light.”
http://www.theasiannews.co.uk/news/s/1084881_madrassah_beating_claims_is_scare_tactic
Local Muslim activist and blogger Majed Iqbal was also concerned about the lack of communication between the report author and the local community.
http://www.theasiannews.co.uk/news/s/1084881_madrassah_beating_claims_is_scare_tactic
He added: "There has been a lack of dialogue with the established mosque committees in Rochdale which have been totally bypassed by Imam Chishti in discussing these issues and bringing them out on the table.http://www.theasiannews.co.uk/news/s/1084881_madrassah_beating_claims_is_scare_tactic

 

[paarsurrey]

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Teachers ‘beat and abuse’ Muslim children in British Koran classes

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Muslim children are being beaten and abused regularly by teachers at some British madrassas - Islamic evening classes - an investigation by The Times has found.

Students have been slapped, punched and had their ears twisted, according to an unpublished report by an imam based on interviews with victims in the north of England. One was “picked up by one leg and spun around” while another said a madrassa teacher was “kicking in my head - like a football”, says the report which was compiled by Irfan Chishti, a former government adviser on Islamic affairs.

When Imam Chishti, a religious education teacher who also runs the Light of Islam Academy in Rochdale, decided to carry out his own investigation into the problem he was shocked by how even the victims had grown to accept the abuse. “They all joked about it,” he said. “There’s a culture that accepts it.”

Imam Chishti said that part of the problem was that some madrassa teachers were ignorant of British law. Corporal punishment was banned in state schools in 1986 and in all schools in 1998. Under current law teachers acting in loco parentis may use only “reasonable punishment” such as a smack, providing it does not cause any marks or bruising.

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Hi

I agree with you view point that the teachers should not resort to beating the children. If the persist to violate the Law of the land; they should be dealt with as per the law of the land. I am with you.
There is no instructions in Islam/Quran/Muhammad for the teachers to beat the children.

I love Jesus and Mary.

Thanks

 

[cathopologist]

I don’t think any parent would consent to parochial teachers beating their kids senselessly. What actually struck me was this: “There’s a culture that accepts it.”

There is some truth to that sentence, as much as it sounds harsh and judgemental. Madrasahs around the world have been known to be very strict towards its students. The most notorious ones are usually found in Pakistan, India, and some parts of the Middle East.

As a parent myself, i believe in disciple and i will not shy from using the rattan cane should my son become rebellious, but there is a limit as to how severe the punishment should be. For instance, i will never beat him until he has cane marks. I only use it (rattan cane) as a last resort and even then, its usually a ‘slight tap’ on his legs or buttock. But if a teacher were to use a rattan cane on my son, you can bet on me rushing down to the school and caning the teacher myself. Nobody else touches my kid.

 

[Eucharisted]

Secularism, that monster which perverts even the best of men, shows its ugly face.

 

[leopolis1]

That’s what they are. Islam is just different from Christianity. Islamic values are not ours. Again, painful reality behind beutiful words of islam as the “religion of peace”. We need to pray for conversion of muslims.

 

[paarsurrey]

That’s what they are. Islam is just different from Christianity. Islamic values are not ours. Again, painful reality behind beutiful words of islam as the “religion of peace”. We need to pray for conversion of muslims.

Hi

God Allah bless you !

There is no harm in praying; but pray sincerely and with devotion, five times a day if possible. Also do some charity and refrain from evil.

I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Buddha and Krishna.

Thanks

P.S.
If you mean by Christianity, following in the footsteps of Jesus, that is admirable. But you only know partial life accounts of Jesus and Mary;particularly you don’t know what they did and taught when they both alongwith their trusted friends went to India.

You only know what Paul did and taught at Rome during the absence of Jesus and Mary which has nothing to do with the simple teachings of Jesus.

 

[Sister_Amy]

My imam told me a story that his blind sheikh who taught him Qur’an used to smack his ear with a stick every time he made a mistake. (He told me this to demonstrate how nice he was when letting us read to him even though he was really seeming kind of mean.)

Anyway, this beating thing is kind of popular in Pakistan/India… and since Desis make up a lot of British Muslims, no wonder they’re having problems.

It’s pretty much culture. I wouldn’t like for my kids to learn that way, for instance.

 

[paarsurrey]

My imam told me a story that his blind sheikh who taught him Qur’an used to smack his ear with a stick every time he made a mistake. (He told me this to demonstrate how nice he was when letting us read to him even though he was really seeming kind of mean.)

Anyway, this beating thing is kind of popular in Pakistan/India… and since Desis make up a lot of British Muslims, no wonder they’re having problems.

It’s pretty much culture. I wouldn’t like for my kids to learn that way, for instance.

Hi Sister Amy! Salam

You are right, it is only a cultural thing and has no roots in Quran and Sunnah. Muhammad taught the Quran with love and affection.

I love Jesusand Mary as I do love Buddha and Krishna.

Thanks

 

[Reuben_J]

I got beat or made to kneel or stand at the corner of the classroom for my heroic acts as a child by my Christian teachers and that include priests who taught us. I ‘love’ (for I don’t want to use the H word) every minute of it. Fortunately I don’t remember it now like when I served the punishment or otherwise I might do a ‘Rambo’ to some of them.

Yeah, I guess these are cultural or specifically just some methods teachers pervertly do. Former students in their adult years usually feel the gratitude that they actually underwent all those treatment because obviuoslyit did them some good.

I am not a teacher BTW.

And I would like to remind Christians that ‘spare the rod and spoil the child’ comes right out of our scripture.

 

[cathopologist]

I am not a teacher BTW.

And I would like to remind Christians that ‘spare the rod and spoil the child’ comes right out of our scripture.

You said it right. But does a teacher know when or how to limit himself/herself? I heard of some teachers in Singapore on some sort of power-trip everytime they use the rattan. Touch my child like that and i’ll give them something to remember. :crutches:

 

[Reuben_J]

You said it right. But does a teacher know when or how to limit himself/herself? I heard of some teachers in Singapore on some sort of power-trip everytime they use the rattan. Touch my child like that and i’ll give them something to remember. :crutches:

Saying I am not a teacher speaks volume for me on this subject which I am not an authority of. Frankly I was just making light of the subject.

Seriously though, there are some abuses by teachers when given the permission with the cane. Ultimately, whoever they are, it the value that’s within them that would play much influence in determining how they carry out their role. If they are good Christians we can be certain that no harm will be done and there is nothing for the parents to really worry about their children with such teachers.

Then of course we go to the subject of the Muslims in the Madarassas. I can only say the fruit of their labor which is violence, is some indicator as to what and how thing is being taught in there.