Ted Turner's 10 Voluntary Initiatives

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  1. I promise to have love and respect for the planet earth and living things thereon, especially my fellow species–humankind.
  1. I promise to treat all persons everywhere with dignity, respect, and friendliness.
  1. I promise to have no more than two children, or no more than my nation suggests.
  1. I promise to use my best efforts to save what is left of our natural world in its untouched state and to restore damaged or destroyed areas where practical.
  1. I pledge to use as little nonrenewable resources as possible.
  1. I pledge to use as little toxic chemicals, pesticides, and other poisons as possible and to work for their reduction by others.
  1. I promise to contribute to those less fortunate than myself, to help them become self-sufficient and enjoy the benefits of a decent life, including clean air and water, adequate food and health care, housing, education, and individual rights.
  1. I reject the use of force, in particular military force, and back United Nations arbitration of international disputes.
  1. I support the total elimination of all nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons of mass destruction.
  1. I support the United Nations and its efforts to collectively improve the conditions of the planet.
humanistsofutah.org/1992/turnernov92.html

What are your opinions on these initiatives? I think most of them are conducive to a secular forumulation of “social justice,” but ten seems to be contingent on the integrity of the United Nations although I currently do not have anything against them.
 
We already have various pledges to live by and not being a big fan of Ted Turner to begin with…
  1. I promise to have love and respect for the planet earth and living things thereon, especially my fellow species–humankind.
X.
You shall not covet your neighbor’s goods!

Luke 16:12
And if you have not been trustworthy with someone else’s property, who will give you property of your own?

This should cover it since it is reasonable to conclude you respect your own goods too to include all living things.
  1. I promise to treat all persons everywhere with dignity, respect, and friendliness.
IV.
Honor your father and your mother!

Matthew 5:44
But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

Ted is a bit shallow in comparrison.
  1. I promise to have no more than two children, or no more than my nation suggests.
Genesis 1:28
God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
  1. I promise to use my best efforts to save what is left of our natural world in its untouched state and to restore damaged or destroyed areas where practical.
See Gn 1:28 above. We should practice good stewardship but such a promise is silly.
  1. I pledge to use as little nonrenewable resources as possible.
See Gn 1:28 above.
  1. I pledge to use as little toxic chemicals, pesticides, and other poisons as possible and to work for their reduction by others.
See Gn 1:28 above.
  1. I promise to contribute to those less fortunate than myself, to help them become self-sufficient and enjoy the benefits of a decent life, including clean air and water, adequate food and health care, housing, education, and individual rights.
Just don’t force it from me in a tax to go to a geneal fund to fund things I have no interest in supporting. Ted wants to limit individual rights. See his promise #3.
  1. I reject the use of force, in particular military force, and back United Nations arbitration of international disputes.
V.
You shall not kill!

I think the UN should be an aprtment complex for the poor in NY.
  1. I support the total elimination of all nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons of mass destruction.
V.
You shall not kill!
  1. I support the United Nations and its efforts to collectively improve the conditions of the planet.
The UN was in Lebabon for nearly 20 years to make sure Hezbollah didn’t re-arm and attack Israel. They also were in charge of the sanctions against Iraq before the war to make sure everyone was playing fair. The UN got us into Korea and Bosnia with approved force. That goes against Ted’s promises above.

If I am going to give a colective body authority to arbitrate on my behalf with values I hold closer to me it would be Rome…not NY, or DC.

Till then I will stick with my Constitution and Bill of Rights. They are good documents…we just need to actually follow them, not make up new ones.
 
What are your opinions on these initiatives? …
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What will people think
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Ted Turner
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#2 I promise to treat people everywhere with dignity, respect & friendliness.

Ted Turner? Is this supposed to be seroius? Given some of his comments about the Pope, Catholics, Christians & Polish people I don’t buy it. After reading his voluntary initiatives, my opinion is that he is still a KOOK.
 
Isn’t Ted good at telling everyone else what they should do?

Given Mr. Turner’s history, if you believe that he wouldn’t turn his back on any one of those ten if it suited him, then I have some timber rights in Death Valley I’d be interested in selling to you.
 
Isn’t Ted good at telling everyone else what they should do?

Given Mr. Turner’s history, if you believe that he wouldn’t turn his back on any one of those ten if it suited him, then I have some timber rights in Death Valley I’d be interested in selling to you.
He did break #3.
 
He left something out:
  1. I pledge to use as little nonrenewable resources as possible, unless I am wealthy enough to purchase lots of carbon offsets, in which case I may continue to live a lavishly wasteful lifestyle.
 
😃

I find it amusing that with extreme wealth comes the license to preach to others how to live…hypocritically, at that.

So what do I think of the initiatives? Let’s just say I consider the source. I’d take a closer look at them if they were penned by, say, Tom Monighan of Domino’s Pizza, who has made it a goal to give away all of his millions before he passes from this life.

I really find nothing of value in anything that comes from Mr. Turner.
 
Isn’t this another wealthy liberal declaring:

“Do as I say, not as I do”

🤷
 
  1. I promise to use my best efforts to save what is left of our natural world in its untouched state and to restore damaged or destroyed areas where practical.
Evidently he is not aware that no place ever inhabited by humans is in an “untouched state”, but has been changed millenia ago by men from a condition about which we know nothing at all. What, for example, did Ohio look like before the first Indians arrived? Certainly not what it looked like when whites first saw it. To what condition does he propose to restore whatever parts of the earth he wishes to “restore”?
 
  1. I promise to use my best efforts to save what is left of our natural world in its untouched state and to restore damaged or destroyed areas where practical.
Evidently he is not aware that no place ever inhabited by humans is in an “untouched state”, but has been changed millenia ago by men from a condition about which we know nothing at all. What, for example, did Ohio look like before the first Indians arrived? Certainly not what it looked like when whites first saw it. To what condition does he propose to restore whatever parts of the earth he wishes to “restore”?
Er…that should be European-Americans.😉
 
Does everyone remember Siskel and Ebert?

When Mr. Turner started to colorize movies back in the late eighties, Siskel and Ebert criticised it. They mentioned realizing in a movie with Frank Sinatra…that they forgot to give him blue eyes! :eek:

So…if Mr. Turner didn’t know Frankie had blue eyes…Mr. Turner doesn’t know much. 😃
 
Er…that should be European-Americans.😉
But the first people of, uh, that color, were not yet Americans. So perhaps patriarchal, homophobic, gun-toting, religiously fanatic, colonialist oppressors would be even more correct.:rolleyes:
 
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