Teen Vogue's Pro-Abortion Assault on Underage Girls

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mVitus said:
Both are evil acts that violate another person’s body. Do you at least understand why we find the teen vogue article so disturbing?
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One is a surgical procedure that a consenting person undergoes the other is a non consensual assault.
 
NM505StKate said:
So understanding how something works as well as being supportive of friends is now a bad thing. Gotcha.
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Not even close and no gotcha.

It’s about abortion and volunteering in abortion clinics. We are not against being supportive of friends.
 
NM505StKate said:
Not going to go through this argument again.
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You don’t have to accept it, but you have to at least recognize the internal consistency. Also, don’t pretend that you didn’t expect that argument to surface…you’re making a pro-choice argument on a Catholic message board. You’re certainly entitled to your opinion, but don’t be surprised when people push back.
 
pensmama87 said:
I had only just turned 13 when I started high school, and I live in the US.

I think it would be unusual, but not unheard of. Not to mention, there are many schools with buildings where all grades are housed together, or at least grades 7-12. That can have a “high school” feel even for what are technically the middle grades.

Many “teen” magazines are read by preteens. Most of them are garbage.
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I see the confusion know. We usually refer to high school as Y7 and up. Middle school is a less usual term for us, but is perhaps common elsewhere.
 
NM505StKate said:
There is a rather huge difference between rape and abortion. The fact you are trying to link the two is rather sad.
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One is a heinous act of adult toward adult, and the other a heinous act of adult toward child. Though I suppose in both cases, even the first adult may be little more than child.
 
NM505StKate said:
So understanding how something works as well as being supportive of friends is now a bad thing. Gotcha.
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Helping to save someone’s soul is much more supportive than allowing them to commit murder and have to stand before God and be judged for it…
 
USMC_Convert said:
Helping to save someone’s soul is much more supportive than allowing them to commit murder and have to stand before God and be judged for it…
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Yes! And enabling someone to have an elective abortion is being an accessory to murder!
 
A few points.

1: Episcopalian priests have no authority over Catholics.

2: More babies have died from abortion’s legalization than women from illegal abortions. Furthermore it’s not moral to allow ‘safe’ infanticide.

3: Men do have business arguing against abortion. It doesn’t take a uterus to know infanticide is wrong. In addition there are also many women involved with the pro-life movement.
 
mVitus said:
A few points.

1: Episcopalian priests have no authority over Catholics.

2: More babies have died from abortion’s legalization than women from illegal abortions. Furthermore it’s not moral to allow ‘safe’ infanticide.

3: Men do have business arguing against abortion. It doesn’t take a uterus to know infanticide is wrong. In addition there are also many women involved with the pro-life movement.
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I know there are women who are pro-life and that is cool. Sorry but no men have no business as they cannot become pregnant.

So how about this logic. Want to prevent or stop abortions support solid sex education and contraceptives.
 
You mention you’re cool with pro-life women, so are you saying a pro-life argument is right only if it comes from a woman, even if it uses the exact same logic?

And by extension, have you denied that men are capable of seeking the counsel of pro-life women and therefore forming an accurate opinion by the advice of women, who most definitely can become pregnant?

Because morality isn’t a gender-exclusive thing. One can determine morality on an issue without needing firsthand experience in it.

And how about this logic, not having sex in the first place reduces the chance of getting pregnant by 100%.
 
mVitus said:
You mention you’re cool with pro-life women, so are you saying a pro-life argument is right only if it comes from a woman, even if it uses the exact same logic?

And by extension, have you denied that men are capable of seeking the counsel of pro-life women and therefore forming an accurate opinion by the advice of women, who most definitely can become pregnant?

Because morality isn’t a gender-exclusive thing. One can determine morality on an issue without needing firsthand experience in it.

And how about this logic, not having sex in the first place reduces the chance of getting pregnant by 100%.
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Yeah because abstinence sure worked for Mary, right? Lolz. I am cool with women being pro life because they can have their opinions. Men to can have their opinions but men should not judge what a woman does with her body.

I assume you are a male so how would you react if say Hillary won and put forth an EO what said before men can get Viagra they needed to undergo an invasive series of tests and watch a video on why the male genitals are “evil” or some such? I will assume you would be upset but she has a uterus and can make laws on a male body.
 
NM505StKate said:
Yeah because abstinence sure worked for Mary, right? Lolz. I am cool with women being pro life because they can have their opinions. Men to can have their opinions but men should not judge what a woman does with her body.

I assume you are a male so how would you react if say Hillary won and put forth an EO what said before men can get Viagra they needed to undergo an invasive series of tests and watch a video on why the male genitals are “evil” or some such? I will assume you would be upset but she has a uterus and can make laws on a male body.
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Why did you chime in the male masturbation thread? Who are you to chime in on that? Further, talk about dopey comparisons: you chide somebody for comparing rape to murder and then try to compare murder to viagra yourself?

No, Kate, men have every right to judge murder, doesn’t matter who does it.

There’s low hanging fruit then there’s free apples. Your arguments are free apples.
 
NM505StKate said:
Yeah because abstinence sure worked for Mary, right? Lolz. I am cool with women being pro life because they can have their opinions. Men to can have their opinions but men should not judge what a woman does with her body.

I assume you are a male so how would you react if say Hillary won and put forth an EO what said before men can get Viagra they needed to undergo an invasive series of tests and watch a video on why the male genitals are “evil” or some such? I will assume you would be upset but she has a uterus and can make laws on a male body.
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On your first point, please read and understand scripture before referencing it.

On the second note, Viagra restores normal function to the penis. So its analogy would be female fertility treatmemts to help a woman ovulate.
If you wanted an accurate comparison, we’d have to imagine a Viagra that also poisoned the man’s sexual partner, resulting in saud partner’s death. And in that case I would fully support measures against such a drug.
 
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