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PeteZaHut
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i don’t know where it happens, but not around school or around parents
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PeteZaHut
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Situations come up where I hear of a party taking place. I know alcohol is probably involved. I think most people that go are responsible enough to not drink and drive. In the end I just do not know whether drinking and driving will happen or not. Is that the kind of thing I am morally obligated to report, even if I don’t know exactly what’s happening?
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rtconstant
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I can understand your reluctance. However, drinking and driving really is a big deal. I didn’t think about much one way or the other while I was young but when I lost the most amazing woman I ever knew to one I changed my mind. As stated before drinking and driving is the same as randomly shooting a gun in a crowded area.
Sure there is a chance that some wont drive when they drink but to be honest if their irresponsible enough to drink while underaged they probably wouldn’t mind driving while drunk especially since the normal human position on such things is that “it can’t happen to me”. Also (and I’m asking this honestly) do you think that kids who do the drinking, prepare ahead of time with a disignated driver? I know when I was in school almost no one would have gone to such a party or get together and not taken part in the activities. It makes you stand out and standing out is usually bad in a high school situation.
In the end you’ll have to judge. I’m glad that you have the moral character to not involve yourself in these activites. It really does speak well of your moral fiber.
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vern_humphrey
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When my youngest daughter was in High School, some of the kids in her class had a party. There was drinking, drugs, and some of them sniffed freon! (My daughter naturaly, did not attend.)
One of the kids died. His body lay on the floor, with other kids stepping over it and laughing about how he had passed out.
A week later my daughter came to me, stunned. “Dad! Do you know what those (word for persons with diminished common sense) did! They had a party last night in his honor!”
One of the kids died. His body lay on the floor, with other kids stepping over it and laughing about how he had passed out.
A week later my daughter came to me, stunned. “Dad! Do you know what those (word for persons with diminished common sense) did! They had a party last night in his honor!”
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PeteZaHut
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I actually have heard several people planning to have designated drivers for an upcoming party. That surprised me greatly, and I felt bad for having assumed that no one would do that. That’s why I am unsure if it is my resonsibility to step into something where I don’t really know what’s happening.
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rtconstant
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Well its good they have that much sense even if they don’t have enough to just not do it. I don’t know my friend you really know more about whats going on than we do. I think that all that has been said still applies over all even if there are some exceptions that are going to be within the group. I would pray about this and do what you think is correct. You obviously have a good head on shoulders.
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Matt_Collins
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Several others have pointed out that drinking and driving is the moral equivalent of taking a loaded gun into a shopping mall (or a school) and randomly shooting it off. I agree wholeheartedly. Drinking and driving is a HUGE deal.
Now, ask yourself, if you knew (or strongly suspected) that one of your classmates was going to bring a loaded gun into school, wouldn’t you call the police ahead of time?
It really IS that big of a deal. Ask anyone who’s been seriously injured or lost a loved one to a drunk driver.
When I was in high school and college I was guilty of this, too. I do understand the reasons kids do it. But I was cured when I met a guy in college who lost both legs to a drunk driver. Fortunately I never hurt anyone, and I can’t tell you how many times I’ve thanked God for that.
My sister has lost several of her students to drunk driving. Don’t let it go on without doing what you can to prevent it. You’ll be doing your classmates a great favor, even if they don’t realize it, if you discreetly call the cops and tell them that on such-and-such a date, at such-and-such a place, and at such-and-such a time, there will be several high schoolers driving drunk. The cops will take it seriously and perhaps save some lives.
Call from a pay phone if you really don’t want to be found out.
Now, ask yourself, if you knew (or strongly suspected) that one of your classmates was going to bring a loaded gun into school, wouldn’t you call the police ahead of time?
It really IS that big of a deal. Ask anyone who’s been seriously injured or lost a loved one to a drunk driver.
When I was in high school and college I was guilty of this, too. I do understand the reasons kids do it. But I was cured when I met a guy in college who lost both legs to a drunk driver. Fortunately I never hurt anyone, and I can’t tell you how many times I’ve thanked God for that.
My sister has lost several of her students to drunk driving. Don’t let it go on without doing what you can to prevent it. You’ll be doing your classmates a great favor, even if they don’t realize it, if you discreetly call the cops and tell them that on such-and-such a date, at such-and-such a place, and at such-and-such a time, there will be several high schoolers driving drunk. The cops will take it seriously and perhaps save some lives.
Call from a pay phone if you really don’t want to be found out.
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vern_humphrey
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No. When I was a boy, I and my classmates often brought guns to school – we’d go hunting after school.
But if someone was drinking or taking drugs and either driving or handling guns, then I’d take action.
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Matt_Collins
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Different time, different situation. The context of my comment was obvious. And I hope anyone who knew someone was bringing a gun to school and was going to shoot it off randomly (as was clear from the context of my comment) would call the cops.
If you were trying to make a political point about gun control, or something like that, then your comment was off topic and not helpful to the discussion at hand. If you weren’t trying to make such a point, then point were you trying to make?
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vern_humphrey
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No, I’m making a comment about** people**. You and I – when sober – are responsible adults. When drunk, we continue to be adults but are no longer responsible.
The key to the issue is not the car, nor the gun – it is the drinking.
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Matt_Collins
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Speaking for myself, I’ll let my wife be the judge of that!
I agree that the root problem is the drinking, but the OP isn’t going to be able to influence that. He’s looking for guidance as to what to do about the very real danger he’s identified: the danger someone will get killed. He can do something about that - he can call the cops.
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vern_humphrey
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It takes a brave man to throw himself on the mercy of that court!Speaking for myself, I’ll let my wife be the judge of that!
Sure – but he should also be alert and call the cops before anyone gets behind the wheel.
Let’s face it, if underage kids are drinking, somebody knows about it. So the idea is to be alert, find out ahead of time about parties and so on, and alert the police so they can break them up – and perhaps take some adults into custody.
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Matt_Collins
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EXACTLY!!! That’s what I suggested.
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