televangelist for catholics

[ringil]

In addition to EWTN, there is BCTV (Boston Catholic Television).

I actually prefer it.

Don’t watch Protestants though. There’s simply no reason to do so. I would personally listen to an Orthodox Priest but they really aren’t on TV so. . . . .

 

[tabycat]

Amen!

And EWTN.

And Bishop Sheen

Double Amen! :knight1:

 

[Izdaari]

If you really want to watch a goood preacher on TV, it’ds not available down here on earth so you’ll have to wait until you get to Heaven to get the DVD of it. Jesus Christ’s Sermon on the Mount is awesome!

I would love to see that. Where can I buy the DVD?

 

[Izdaari]

I get EWTN on cable, but I have to admit I don’t watch it very much, because a lot of the programming is, frankly, boring. Sorry. That’s unfortunate, because I’m sure I’d like a lot of it otherwise.

 

[Izdaari]

My favorite- Fr. Mitch Pacwa.

Listen to his homilies here:

youtube.com/results?search_query=mitch+pacwa+homily&oq=mitch+pacwa+homily&gs_l=youtube.3…6893.8696.0.9475.7.7.0.0.0.0.382.780.5j1j0j1.7.0…0.0…1ac.1.8_IWxnZH_cs

Watch his debate with Walter Martin here (old but terrific)

youtube.com/watch?v=E5VDG2nb5h0

Here’s what Pastor Joel believes from his church’s website. Avoid him. He is misleading people from the truth.
The Bible
We believe the entire Bible is inspired by God, without error and the authority on which we base our faith, conduct and doctrine.

This ignores “the (Catholic) church is the pillar and foundation of truth”; the bible, while infallible and useful for teaching, comes through tradition and the church…and was canonized to have a set of reading to be used at MassThe Trinity
We believe in one God who exists in three distinct persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. We believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God who came to this earth as Savior of the world.

Salvation
We believe Jesus died on the cross and shed His blood for our sins. We believe that salvation is found by placing our faith in what Jesus did for us on the cross. We believe Jesus rose from the dead and is coming again.
Yes but Jesus asks more than us to simply believe in him. Once saved always saved is in error. Jesus own words to the rich man “keep the commandments”. St Paul says persevere to the endWater Baptism
We believe water baptism is a symbol of the cleansing power of the blood of Christ and a testimony to our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Baptism is a symbol? No way. That’s a man-made tradition. It’s not scriptural and does not follow the teaching of the church for 2000 years. You can not find early Christians performing symbolic baptismsCommunion
We believe in the regular taking of Communion as an act of remembering what the Lord Jesus did for us on the cross.
But Joel misinterprets communion as symbolic and he is not ordained by the church to have a valid Eucharist. This ignores Christs own words in John 6Growing Relationship
We believe every believer should be in a growing relationship with Jesus by obeying God’s Word, yielding to the Holy Spirit and by being conformed to the image of Christ​

Those bits from Osteen’s website don’t differ much from standard Protestantism. But Osteen actually does. Much of his sermon material is taken, not from the Bible, but from New Thought motivational speakers like Dale Carnegie, Norman Vincent Peale, Napoleon Hill and Zig Ziglar. That’s also where the roots of Word of Faith come from, and Osteen’s father was a WoF preacher.

However, pinning OSAS on Osteen is a bum rap. That’s a Baptist distinctive, and Osteen doesn’t endorse it anywhere that I’m aware of. Osteen’s tradition comes more from Pentecostalism (WoF is a Pentecostal-New Thought hybrid), and they generally don’t believe in OSAS.

 

[clem456]

Hello,

As I get older, I see the need for two things

1. get grounded in my catholic faith
2. I also want to be a good brother to my protestant brothers.

I was curious which televangelists are “safe” for catholics.
I know some get into the endtime events, which may be contrary to catholic teachings.
But I also know some protestant televangelist give good positive messages for any religion.

I am going to see Joel Osteen at a crusade.

What are some other good TV preachers?

Many good suggestions already. As I have learned the faith, I tend to stay away from televangelists who create controversy. Only one has been mentioned so far. Use some discretion and stay with the solidly Catholic stuff that promotes unity.

Joel Osteen’s theology in my view is way off the board. He sees God as a vending maching. If you will just put in X, you will receive Y, that job promotion, etc… If that was the case, my saintly brother in law would not have died with cancer and left 4 children under the age of 8 to survive him. It’s hard to find the cross in Osteen’s preaching.

 

[Porknpie]

However, pinning OSAS on Osteen is a bum rap. That’s a Baptist distinctive, and Osteen doesn’t endorse it anywhere that I’m aware of. Osteen’s tradition comes more from Pentecostalism (WoF is a Pentecostal-New Thought hybrid), and they generally don’t believe in OSAS.

I’m getting it right from his church website. His website may not be very clear on what his belief is …I may have mis-interpreted.

 

[Porknpie]

I’m getting it right from his church website. His website may not be very clear on what his belief is …I may have mis-interpreted.

I should have noted that his church’s “what we believe” is a total of 6 paragraphs.

lakewood.cc/pages/new-here/what-we-believe.aspx

Six paragraphs into the Catechism of the Catholic Church gets you mid-way into the 1st page of the prologue. Contrasting the two, I think it is a fair criticism of him that he is not much of theologian.

PROLOGUE

"FATHER, . . . this is eternal life, that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent."1 "God our Savior desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth."2 "There is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved"3 - than the name of JESUS.
I. THE LIFE OF MAN - TO KNOW AND LOVE GOD

1 God, infinitely perfect and blessed in himself, in a plan of sheer goodness freely created man to make him share in his own blessed life. For this reason, at every time and in every place, God draws close to man. He calls man to seek him, to know him, to love him with all his strength. He calls together all men, scattered and divided by sin, into the unity of his family, the Church. To accomplish this, when the fullness of time had come, God sent his Son as Redeemer and Savior. In his Son and through him, he invites men to become, in the Holy Spirit, his adopted children and thus heirs of his blessed life.

2 So that this call should resound throughout the world, Christ sent forth the apostles he had chosen, commissioning them to proclaim the gospel: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age."4 Strengthened by this mission, the apostles "went forth and preached everywhere, while the Lord worked with them and confirmed the message by the signs that attended it."5

3 Those who with God’s help have welcomed Christ’s call and freely responded to it are urged on by love of Christ to proclaim the Good News everywhere in the world. This treasure, received from the apostles, has been faithfully guarded by their successors. All Christ’s faithful are called to hand it on from generation to generation, by professing the faith, by living it in fraternal sharing, and by celebrating it in liturgy and prayer.6

II. HANDING ON THE FAITH: CATECHESIS

4 Quite early on, the name catechesis was given to the totality of the Church’s efforts to make disciples, to help men believe that Jesus is the Son of God so that believing they might have life in his name, and to educate and instruct them in this life, thus building up the body of Christ.7

5 "Catechesis is an education in the faith of children, young people and adults which includes especially the teaching of Christian doctrine imparted, generally speaking, in an organic and systematic way, with a view to initiating the hearers into the fullness of Christian life."8

 

[Dorothy]

Many good suggestions already. As I have learned the faith, I tend to stay away from televangelists who create controversy. Only one has been mentioned so far. Use some discretion and stay with the solidly Catholic stuff that promotes unity.

Joel Osteen’s theology in my view is way off the board. He sees God as a vending maching. If you will just put in X, you will receive Y, that job promotion, etc… If that was the case, my saintly brother in law would not have died with cancer and left 4 children under the age of 8 to survive him. It’s hard to find the cross in Osteen’s preaching.

And that’s the key! When there is no cross or dying to self preached, it is not the Gospel.

 

[FrRob]

Hello,

As I get older, I see the need for two things

1. get grounded in my catholic faith
2. I also want to be a good brother to my protestant brothers.

I was curious which televangelists are “safe” for catholics.
I know some get into the endtime events, which may be contrary to catholic teachings.
But I also know some protestant televangelist give good positive messages for any religion.

I am going to see Joel Osteen at a crusade.

What are some other good TV preachers?

I think most of what I would have sad is aleady overed. I would stay away from pretty much all TV preachers, and perhaps a few of what I have seen on EWTN.

Just because something is labeled “Catholic” does not mean it will always be good, or in line with Church teaching.

I’d turn off the TV altogether.

Have you ever read Tolkien, or Lewis? You could spend a good chunk of time (and spend it well) becoming familiar with their work. There are also a large number of science fiction works that examine the question of faith. Mary Doria Rusell’s “The Sparrow” and “Children of God” come to mind, as does James Blish’s “A Case of Conscience,” and some of the work of Clifford Simak (“Project Pope” and “Special Deliverance,” I think, but I really cannot remember any of the plot elements, or how they related to Catholic faith.)

(Avoid “The Reality Disfunction” at ALL costs. 8-( )

I’d rate these as a FAR better use of your time than TV preachers.

If you REALLY want to “get to know and relate better” to our brother and sister Christians, ask around amongst the local priests if any of them are in a ministerial alliance. One who is will surely know a Protestant minister who is on the up-and-up in terms of relating to Catholics, and THAT Individual would probably be the one to ask about something good to read by a member of his or her faith.

Fr. Rob

 

[flameburns623]

. . . I’d turn off the TV altogether.

Have you ever read Tolkien, or Lewis? You could spend a good chunk of time (and spend it well) becoming familiar with their work . . . I’d rate these as a FAR better use of your time than TV preachers.

I hope you understand that I mean this respectfully Fr. Rob: but for various reasons, the suggestion to “Go read a book” doesn’t always work well. And I’m a voracious reader. Some folks NEED to use electronic media. Because they’re at work, or driving, for instance. Or because they just can’t grasp words on a printed page. I read at a pretty hIgh level, but some writers leave me cold: Tolkien, for example. LOTR movies were great, the books were unreadable for me. Chesterton, likewise, writes gibberish for non-fiction, though I enjoy his Fr. Brown stories. It’s odd what things one can read with enjoyment and profit, what just refuses to resonate. For we who ENJOY reading. I have family with severe reading disabilities. Just a thought.

 

[Anna_Scott]

Hello,

As I get older, I see the need for two things

1. get grounded in my catholic faith
2. I also want to be a good brother to my protestant brothers.

I was curious which televangelists are “safe” for catholics.
I know some get into the endtime events, which may be contrary to catholic teachings.
But I also know some protestant televangelist give good positive messages for any religion.

I am going to see Joel Osteen at a crusade.

What are some other good TV preachers?

tweetiebird,

I’ve attended a couple of Osteen’s services. He’s comes across as more of a motivational speaker than a pastor.

IMHO, he presents “feel good” messages, many of which are contrary to Christian orthodoxy and offensive to the Gospel.