Tell me about Heaven

[Bruno_Schulz]

Bruno,
Sarah is ***exactly ***right. The following articles from the Catechism make this clear

There are still (as told before) several more sacraments. All Sacraments leave marks on ones soul.

But actually, the sacrament-thread is another one.
Here we ought to tell people interestet in heaven, what we know, think and tell them about heaven
“tell me about Heaven” is often asked. But only very little amount of Christians do have convincing answers about heaven. Even though mus is said about heaven in the Bible.

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

Even though mus is said about heaven in the Bible.

Oh what a barmy English my whole post was :doh2:
I hope you understood some of it…
Last ought to be:
Even though muCH is said about heaven in the Bible.

why don’t we simply speak German then
it’s much easier (to me)

 

[Sailka]

Bruno,
Sarah is ***exactly ***right. The following articles from the Catechism make this clear:

Marriage is in fact a sacrament in the Catholic Church, like several others. But it does not impart the same type of indelible spiritual mark as described above. The marriage bond, established by God, is in fact perpetual and indissoluble, but this is not the result of a spiritual ‘mark’ placed upon the spouses.

Sincerely,
rocketrob

It all depends on detailed word definitions. Marriage is an Ultimate Mark, if honored. Etc, Etc.

 

[Sailka]

Oh what a barmy English my whole post was :doh2:
I hope you understood some of it…
Last ought to be:
Even though muCH is said about heaven in the Bible.

why don’t we simply speak German then
it’s much easier (to me)

Jah, Bruno. But your Posts are brilliant.:yyeess: :thankyou: :aok: Gruesse Gott!

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

**There are seven sacraments, all of them an ultimate mark:
1•Babtism or christening
2•Confirmation (in protestant Churches identical with the Holy Communion)
3•The Eucharist
4•Confession
5•Anointment (don’t know if that word’s right)
6•Ordination of priests
7•Marrige

Sadly enough the Protestants just recognise two:
1•Babtism or christening
2•The Lord’s Supper (Eucharist).
but here Jesus is only present “if one believes He is”.
(but Jesus didn’t say “this is my flesh – if you believe so”, but “this is my flesh”!)
But – let me remind again for the theme of the topic:
TELL ME ABOUT HEAVEN

Sure – nobody ever saw heaven – so how can we tell?!
We can tell! For we know a lot about heaven of Jesus - and before Jesus, from the Prophets. AND – we have our own imagination from all we learned.
So, what do we tell not only children, but also atheists or seeking people interested in Christianity, when they ask us:
Please, tell me about Heaven.
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[fhansen]

"No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him" 1Cor 2:9

The problem is that here on earth we simply don’t experience anything like heaven and are not equipped to do so-we don’t have the capacity in our natural or fallen state. God gives us a foretaste of it through our faith as stated in the CCC and so we “walk by faith”, trusting in the promises, but the nature of eternal life is ineffable. However, in His mercy God has given us more than a vague foretaste-He’s given us the testimony of the Saints to whom He’s granted ecstasies, etc.! And the descriptions tell us that the experience of simply being in God’s presence causes unfathomable happiness- incomparable peace, joy, and satisfaction to the depths of our beings.

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

**Of course that’s all true. And I even doubt, if God really granted some Saints (like Jacob with the heavenly ladder) a glance inside heaven. Jesus Christ said “NO eye ever saw…”
But atheists and mockers about heaven, as well as Children who are asking about heaven, won’t be satisfied with: “it’s ineffable”.
I quite often was asked not only by my sons, but mainly by sneerers in a (God) insulting way. Less so by Christians, who where just unsure, and said, well, it’s “a hope”.
No!! It’s definitely not just a mere or vague hope, it’s very real reality. I often answer; “heaven is more real, that all reality on earth” and then I’d add something like “just think of the very best on earth in any way, and multiply this by 77 times as great and wonderful (77 is often mentioned in the Bibel e.g. in Mat 18:22).
We might well think about how “it” will be in heaven.
Saint Ignatius of Loyola often in ecstasies had lively considerations about the Holy Trinity. Let’s have lively considerations about heaven and tell these others if Children (who usually have best thoughts about heaven) or non-believers. Let them feel that we out of Jesus mouth KNOW how real heaven is.

We’ll all be there in a measured length of time. Everywhere we go to and haven’t been before, we make suggestions how it’ll be. So why not heaven. It’s the most natural thing to do. And wherever we go, we’ll tell friends: Oh I think it’ll be such and such; - so why not about heaven.
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[fhansen]

Well, I look at “ineffable” as a positive term for heaven because if I could describe it, it would be too much like earth-and its good to stress that earthly terms and comparisons are inadequate-that’s what 1Cor 2:9 is getting at. But the excitement of someone who’s tasted it is contagious I sometimes use your analogy-about heaven having the best things on earth times a million-I aim a little higher on the multiplier, I guess. But lately I like to speak of the experience of being in the presence of the most incredibly powerful and unconditional love-a love that completely dwarfs a mothers love for her children by comparison-in fact they aren’t even close. Man can never plumb the depths of a love that great-and he’ll never thirst again when he meets it. I also like the imagery in Isaiah 11.

 

[love4mary]

Jesus said that He was going ahead of us to prepare a room in His Fathers Mansion. What He did NOT say was What was in that room. He left us many clues though. It is going to be such a happy place that our earthy minds could not even comprehend it…

Heaven for me is like as a child waiting for Christmas Morning. I see all the presents under the tree (our earthly journey towards the Kingdom) and when Christmas Morning arrives and I get to open all the presents (entering into the Kingdom) what unbelievable joy.

God knows that I love to read books,maybe MY room will be a giant library loaded with all the greatest books ever written.

 

[Bruno_Schulz]

It is going to be such a happy place that our earthy minds could not even comprehend it…

**that’s precisely what I kept telling my sons:aok:

Though I usually added (what only elderly kids would understand) that it’s never “things” but far more so the love of God, the grace we to be sure already swim in like a fish in the sea, but we even actually see God and we know, that nothing ever could happen to us, but this all involving and protecting, all embracing love is eternal
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