Tell me everything I need to know about guys

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At that point in my life, I was in “girl heaven” when there were more unattached girls by far than unattached guys.
That’s an important aspect of college life today–at normal colleges, there will be far more young women than young men. But then, at places like Carnegie Mellon and Caltech, the ratios are reversed. But even at a college with a “normal” 60%/40% female/male split, there will be pockets where male students predominate.
 
If you like a guy and he likes you back, and you want to start dating, go for it. Just be aware of what you want in any relationship and make sure that’s compatible with what they want. If you don’t want to have sex and they’re expecting it on the second or third date, obviously that’s not going to work out. But then, you probably shouldn’t be dating people you don’t know well enough to determine that about anyway.
The nice lady that runs Seraphic Singles counsels being particularly cautious about third date logistics. So, no romantic dinner at home for that date.
 
The nice lady that runs Seraphic Singles counsels being particularly cautious about third date logistics. So, no romantic dinner at home for that date.
I agree with that sentiment. First date you’re getting to know them, second date you’re seeing if you like dating them. If it’s a third date, that usually means it’s a pretty serious relationship, and I’d imagine a lot of guys more or less expect something physical by then, even if that just means a kiss.

To the OP, based on your description of your background, I get the impression you’d be more comfortable in a relationship that’s not so… I guess formally structured? Something comfortable. A relationship based on “first date, second date, third date” and so on has never really been one that makes sense to me, personally. It just makes it seem like the two don’t talk outside of these planned events. I’ve only ever dated people I was already pretty good friends with and knew quite a bit about, current girlfriend the epitome of that statement, so any “dates” we had were more casual things that we did just without other people. A date for us now is going to Sonic at 9:00 at night and getting tater tots and mozzarella sticks or binge watching an anime. In any case, setting and maintaining boundaries is an essential part of any relationship, particularly a serious dating type situation. If you get to “third date” hopefully they understand your position on sex by now. Don’t be afraid to make those kinds of things obvious. If they’re actually serious about this, it shouldn’t be a problem for them.
 
Take some social dance classes. No partner required. Many opportunities to make small talk with other attendees of both sexes in a low pressure environment. I recommend this for men too.
 
This reminds me of the guy who came to my high school health education class to talk about STDs. He said that, when his daughters will be old enough to date, he would meet the guys, show him his sword collection, talk to them while polishing a sword, and give a demonstration on how smoothly and effortlessly that sword can cut. I wish my dad would try something like that. Unfortunately, he prefers to think the best of everyone unless proven otherwise.
My uncle did that to one of my cousin’s dates. My uncle showed off his very sharp katana.

Actually another one of my cousin’s dates got a little too aggressive with her when he dropped her off at the front door after a date. My uncle had to chase the guy off with that very same katana.
 
Take some social dance classes. No partner required. Many opportunities to make small talk with other attendees of both sexes in a low pressure environment. I recommend this for men too.
Ooooo yes this is a great idea!

I took a few dance classes in college just for fun, and there was also a social dance club. Very low pressure, lots of fun, and you also develop an impressive skill for later use (even very simple steps are impressive - it’s too bad they aren’t universally learned anymore.)
 
Not all Protestant guys are idiots! But the idiots ones all seem to have blogs explaining their “theories.”

biblicalgenderroles.com/2015/07/10/does-the-bible-teach-the-concept-of-human-property/

canecaldo.wordpress.com/page/2/

I have to quote a little from the last one:

“She [his wife] quit her job (against her wishes). We homeschool now; which was my idea, not hers. The house is clean(er) now, but I am satisfied that she does her best. I put the kibosh on a lot of volunteer activities that she claimed to enjoy, but actually drained her energy and spirits.”

And he’s very, very pleased with himself.
:eek:

They seem to be justifying slavery of wives and children. Actually, I take that back. They are justifying the concept of the slavery of wives and children. This is what sola scriptura gets you.
 
:eek:

They seem to be justifying slavery of wives and children. Actually, I take that back. They are justifying the concept of the slavery of wives and children. This is what sola scriptura gets you.
When I first saw that post, I thought, “This HAS to be satire.”

But it’s not. 😦
 
Not all Protestant guys are idiots! But the idiots ones all seem to have blogs explaining their “theories.”

biblicalgenderroles.com/2015/07/10/does-the-bible-teach-the-concept-of-human-property/

canecaldo.wordpress.com/page/2/

I have to quote a little from the last one:

“She [his wife] quit her job (against her wishes). We homeschool now; which was my idea, not hers. The house is clean(er) now, but I am satisfied that she does her best. I put the kibosh on a lot of volunteer activities that she claimed to enjoy, but actually drained her energy and spirits.”

And he’s very, very pleased with himself.
Though, to be quite fair, Protestant guys do not have the market cornered on idiocy. A relative of mine recently broke up with her (conservative Catholic) boyfriend because he told her she “needed” to drop out of college, lest getting a degree make her “prideful” and “overqualified” to be the stay-at-home wife and mother that every young woman who doesn’t become a nun is supposed to be. :rolleyes:

(In a shocking turn of events, no, he wasn’t in college, and he wasn’t planning on going, either.)

I baked her a breakup cake and told her she was well shut of the idiot. 😃
 
Ooooo yes this is a great idea!

I took a few dance classes in college just for fun, and there was also a social dance club. Very low pressure, lots of fun, and you also develop an impressive skill for later use (even very simple steps are impressive - it’s too bad they aren’t universally learned anymore.)
Two sets of friends met and married out of dance groups.

One set is still going strong 16+ years of marriage later. They met in college. She was initially impressed by what an amazing dancer he was (and she’s a dance nut herself). The other couple was older (both divorced at that point), had a whirlwind romance, a premarital pregnancy, and then were divorced by the time their son was a preschooler. (But there was mental illness in the picture.)
 
Though, to be quite fair, Protestant guys do not have the market cornered on idiocy. A relative of mine recently broke up with her (conservative Catholic) boyfriend because he told her she “needed” to drop out of college, lest getting a degree make her “prideful” and “overqualified” to be the stay-at-home wife and mother that every young woman who doesn’t become a nun is supposed to be. :rolleyes:

(In a shocking turn of events, no, he wasn’t in college, and he wasn’t planning on going, either.)

I baked her a breakup cake and told her she was well shut of the idiot. 😃
Well, there’s a happy ending!

I haven’t personally bumped into that type in real life, but the lady at Seraphic Singles apparently did quite a lot, especially as a younger woman.

Oh, and that’s another thing to bear in mind–the people that you are meeting at college are in flux. Being 18-22 year olds, they are in a transitional state, experimenting with ideas and identities, so you can’t really tell who they are going to be in 10-20 years, or even what they will be like when they’re out of school, working, and keeping house for themselves.
 
Background: I’m an 18-year old girl who is starting college in September who has attended an all-girls high school for all four years and has not had any contact with males outside my immediate family and none that are around my age. Tell me everything I need to know so that I can be prepared because I know absolutely nothing. Thanks.
As with every person…the most important thing to remember is never judge a book by its cover. A seemingly nice guy may be an axe murderer and a strange guy may be the nicest guy you ever meet.

I went to an all girls school and I was fine when I went to university. Talk to them how you would anyone, be polite, stick to your faith etc

All guys are different the same as all girls are different.
 
Update: I’ve read each post in this thread at least once and I’d like to thank all who gave advise. I’ve had another sleepless night like last week. Instead of being haunted until 3 AM about losing it in college like last time, it was probably triggered by the post someone made about him and his girlfriend, no offense. These sorts of things sometimes make me lie awake at night even with sleep aid because I’m so very lonely.

Lately, I’ve been thinking hard about what to do with my life. My mom always dreamed that I’d be a doctor and, while I like science and helping people and having a good salary, I’ve read too many horror stories about medical school crushing the person and turning his/her heart to stone. But, I highly doubt that someone would ever love me given my personality and circumstances, so I’d need to find a job in which I can immerse myself and find purpose. And, it’s got to be a job that pays well in the event that I might need to support someone.
 
Update: I’ve read each post in this thread at least once and I’d like to thank all who gave advise. I’ve had another sleepless night like last week. Instead of being haunted until 3 AM about losing it in college like last time, it was probably triggered by the post someone made about him and his girlfriend, no offense. These sorts of things sometimes make me lie awake at night even with sleep aid because I’m so very lonely.

Lately, I’ve been thinking hard about what to do with my life. My mom always dreamed that I’d be a doctor and, while I like science and helping people and having a good salary, I’ve read too many horror stories about medical school crushing the person and turning his/her heart to stone. But, I highly doubt that someone would ever love me given my personality and circumstances, so I’d need to find a job in which I can immerse myself and find purpose. And, it’s got to be a job that pays well in the event that I might need to support someone.
That’s not unreasonable. But, I’d add:
  1. I think that your personality is probably way more lovable than you give yourself credit for.
and
  1. I think there are actually a lot of compassionate doctors. Not surprisingly, they have more successful practices than the other kind.
Come to think of it, it might be a good idea to talk to doctors that you like in real life and ask them how they managed to get through medical school and still be OK human beings.
 
That’s not unreasonable. But, I’d add:
  1. I think that your personality is probably way more lovable than you give yourself credit for.
and
  1. I think there are actually a lot of compassionate doctors. Not surprisingly, they have more successful practices than the other kind.
Come to think of it, it might be a good idea to talk to doctors that you like in real life and ask them how they managed to get through medical school and still be OK human beings.
I’ll second finding folks doing the jobs you are interested in and talking to them. Almost everyone likes to talk about their job if it’s their career. They’ll give you the reality.

for the OP

You said you’re 18? Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy (I could go on…)

too early to decide whether someone else is ever gonna love you since you’re still a developing person. You are not the same person you will be in a year, or two, or five. Do you find yourself lovable? Do you look in the mirror and like the person and have appropriate pride in the person staring back at you? If you don’t, why? Live your values, your moral code, and it will become easier. Don’t let loneliness distract you into starting and continuing a bad relationship. I’ve seen that…

You fight loneliness in college by joining groups/clubs in things you’d like to explore. SCUBA, knitting, dancing, shooting… whatever. You meet people there, it will lead to friendships of varying levels from close to casual. You work on you, not on whether you’re attractive to other folks. Being yourself will ensure the men who ask you out are attracted to you, and not some construct you’ve built to project. Again, at this age recognize you’re too young for anything serious, that you’re developing, explore your interests through elective classes or clubs.

This, I think is a big problem at this age, always has been and always will be. Kids get too intimate too soon, when it falls apart they desperately miss that intimacy, even if it was primarily physical they’ve confused it with an emotional intimacy that was more illusion than real.
 
You fight loneliness in college by joining groups/clubs in things you’d like to explore. SCUBA, knitting, dancing, shooting… whatever. You meet people there, it will lead to friendships of varying levels from close to casual. You work on you, not on whether you’re attractive to other folks. Being yourself will ensure the men who ask you out are attracted to you, and not some construct you’ve built to project. Again, at this age recognize you’re too young for anything serious, that you’re developing, explore your interests through elective classes or clubs.
To this day, some people in the US are still marrying college sweethearts and living happily ever after. However, these days, nobody should expect that. If you should happen to meet the love of your life in college, wonderful! But, as it happens, the average American woman is now getting married for the first time at around 27, so at 18, there is no need to panic. In fact, whatever your age is, panicking is always a bad idea.
 
Most college aged guys are idiots. To reduce your exposure to them socially:
  • Stay away from Protestant guys. Their belief systems are all over the place and will not mesh with the Catholic concept of marriage
  • Join FOCUS (Fellowship Of Catholic University Students) to reduce your exposure to idiot Catholic guys
  • Loving your future kids now will help you select a good father for them when the time is right
Best wishes!
Wow! Lol. This is rather harsh. But then again, my college experience was probably way different than most people’s since I attended a strong Catholic university. Even so, though, I would not say all of these statements you made are true:
  1. I know many men in my senior high school class who were solid in their Protestant faith and knew what they believed.
  2. Not all Catholic college students (both men and women) are “into” FOCUS. I was involved with FOCUS very little throughout my four years. But then again, that’s more understandable in my situation since I had an otherwise Catholic environment in which to live. Still, though, I wouldn’t say that FOCUS is the be all/end all college group on a secular campus. I suppose if I went to a secular college I would have been at least a little more involved with a FOCUS group, but I would say to look for guys who are involved in the campus parish/nearby community parish, which will not necessarily entail being involved with FOCUS. Look for guys who are obviously working on growing in their spiritual life through fellowship with other people, especially other Catholics. This may mean with FOCUS, and it also may not mean that.
 
Lately, I’ve been thinking hard about what to do with my life. My mom always dreamed that I’d be a doctor and, while I like science and helping people and having a good salary, I’ve read too many horror stories about medical school crushing the person and turning his/her heart to stone. But, I highly doubt that someone would ever love me given my personality and circumstances, so I’d need to find a job in which I can immerse myself and find purpose. And, it’s got to be a job that pays well in the event that I might need to support someone.
Yikes! A couple people already said it - but certainly, give yourself some credit! You will be fine as long as you don’t lock yourself up in a hole all day long - get out and be involved in at least a small handful of activities/groups on campus, especially within the closest Catholic community (hopefully there’s one on campus). College is a very formative time - you could very well change in a number of ways throughout your four years of undergraduate study.
 
Yikes! A couple people already said it - but certainly, give yourself some credit! You will be fine as long as you don’t lock yourself up in a hole all day long - get out and be involved in at least a small handful of activities/groups on campus, especially within the closest Catholic community (hopefully there’s one on campus). College is a very formative time - you could very well change in a number of ways throughout your four years of undergraduate study.
I’m worried about changing for the worse.
 
I’m worried about changing for the worse.
Well, you’re not perfect now.

You can get better or worse in college, or even better and worse at the same time in different areas.

Which you choose is up to you.
 
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