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Blackshirtproud
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Is there a way to tell the difference between a Protestant pastor who wears a collar and the traditional collar our RC priest wear?
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bben15
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Most Lutheran pastors and Roman Catholic priests wear black clerical shirts. There is really no way to distinguish them on the street. The only way is to ask them if they are a Catholic priest. Don’t just ask “Are you a priest?” because they could be an Episcopal priest. Be sure to include the word “Catholic” in there.
However, if they are wearing a Roman cassock, that means they are a Catholic priest, as only Catholic priests wear Roman cassocks.
However, if they are wearing a Roman cassock, that means they are a Catholic priest, as only Catholic priests wear Roman cassocks.
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Tarpeian_Rock
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Based on some limited observation, the “Roman collars” worn by Episcopal clergy seem to have a wider “white space” than Catholic clergy, but this can be hard to differentiate without a side-by-side comparison.
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L_Marshall
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This is generally true, but isn’t a hard rule. I know Protestant clergymen who wear the collars with the very narrow opening. I know Catholic priests who wear the white band collar with no black (typical of Anglican churches).
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gcnuss
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Careful – I know Lutheran pastors who wear a cassock, at least on some occasions.Most Lutheran pastors and Roman Catholic priests wear black clerical shirts. There is really no way to distinguish them on the street. The only way is to ask them if they are a Catholic priest. Don’t just ask “Are you a priest?” because they could be an Episcopal priest. Be sure to include the word “Catholic” in there.
However, if they are wearing a Roman cassock, that means they are a Catholic priest, as only Catholic priests wear Roman cassocks.
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YoungTradCath
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A lot of the Roman ateliers will make cassocks with the wide white space for the collar. I think it looks quite dapper.
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Withburga
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Elizium23
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Brendan_64
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Not necessarily true. The Anglican priest from the Church of England church (he’s an American ‘High-Church’ Episcopalian) round the corner from me always wears a Roman cassock when he’s out and about (unless we get a very hot day) whereas our own Catholic Parish Priest rarely wears a collar when he’s ‘off-duty’ (sometimes not even when he’s ‘on-duty’).However, if they are wearing a Roman cassock, that means they are a Catholic priest, as only Catholic priests wear Roman cassocks.
The stereotype of a Catholic priest in a cassock, or in a black suit wearing a black shirt and a Roman collar, is probably not even a stereotype anymore, let alone a commonplace reality. This is unfortunate, in my opinion. I think it’s important for the world in general to see that the person is a clergyman rather than just see another member of the public. In a secular world where (in the UK anyway) Christianity is under attack from a predominantly atheist society, it is increasingly important to bear witness to who we are. The laity should openly wear crosses and put stickers on their cars showing that we are Christians, the clergy should show to the secular world that they are Christian clergymen and proud. Just my opinion anyway.
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JReducation
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Not all Catholic priests wear a Roman cassock and not all who wear a Roman cassock are Catholic priests, even among Catholics. There are entire congregations of religious brothers who wear a Roman cassock. One community wears a mozetta as well and they’re brothers, not priests.However, if they are wearing a Roman cassock, that means they are a Catholic priest, as only Catholic priests wear Roman cassocks.
Also, certain Protestant traditions had the cassock when they left the Catholic Church and continued to use it to this day. Anglican vicars usually wear a Roman cassock.
A Jesuit cassock, an Oratorian cassock, and a French cassock are traditionally Catholic. Protestants had already separated by the time these came into use.
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jilly4ski
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You are going to have to help me out here Br. JR. Google images is not helping when I try to discern the differences in these cassocks and a “Roman” cassock. I am beginning to think the Jesuits were so powerful and numerous, that “their” cassock is the only one that has ever been photographed, and is used by everyone regardless.
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JReducation
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I don’t know how Google organizes them. Can’t help you with Google. Sorry.You are going to have to help me out here Br. JR. Google images is not helping when I try to discern the differences in these cassocks and a “Roman” cassock. I am beginning to think the Jesuits were so powerful and numerous, that “their” cassock is the only one that has ever been photographed, and is used by everyone regardless.
The Roman Cassock is cut like a coat. It’s circumference at the hem is is narrow. The Jesuit cassock looks like the coat worn by Nero in the Matrix. It fits like a coat at the top and has a very large circumference at the bottom. Often, it does not have buttons below the waist. These seem to depend on the province.
If you observe closely, Pope Emeritus wears a Roman cassock and Pope Francis wears a Jesuit cassock.
The Oratorian cassock has a collar like a shirt collar.
The French cassock has a collar with a rabbat, like St. John Vianney, St. John Baptist de La Salle or the Christian Brothers.
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jilly4ski
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That is what I needed, thanks! Now I know what I am looking for.
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shawnbm
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Can anyone post pictures of what these different cassocks look like? Thank you, and all clergy should wear clerical garb IMHO, including (perhaps especially, and always when doing parish work) permanent deacons.
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andrewstx
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In my expierence it is usually easy to tell an Anglican cassock from a Catholic cassock. Most Anglican priests wear a double breasted cassock that buttons to the side instead of centre. The opening for the collar is usually wider too.
But Anglicans and Lutherans seem to be getting away from the cassock, they are wearing albs and stoles instead of the cassock, surplice, stole combination that was popular when I was younger.
But Anglicans and Lutherans seem to be getting away from the cassock, they are wearing albs and stoles instead of the cassock, surplice, stole combination that was popular when I was younger.
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jilly4ski
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It is more than a little difficult to tell in pictures. But as Br. JR suggested I went to the popes.Can anyone post pictures of what these different cassocks look like? Thank you, and all clergy should wear clerical garb IMHO, including (perhaps especially, and always when doing parish work) permanent deacons.
Roman Cassock in white https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/...qj5rmJi-fnJqNw5ZXbNqKwIHbq80LgE8cBnaH5tI94UjA
Jesuit Cassock in white http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-14T091243Z_01_VAT805_RTRIDSP_3_POPE-6385.jpg
I thought these were best to illustrate the difference in shape of the bottom.
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jilly4ski
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An Oratorian cassock http://thecatholicbeat.sacredheartradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/oratorians.jpgCan anyone post pictures of what these different cassocks look like? Thank you, and all clergy should wear clerical garb IMHO, including (perhaps especially, and always when doing parish work) permanent deacons.
Here is a picture of Saint John Baptist de lasalle wearing his rabat, I can’t really find a modern example. http://www.lasallians.lk/images/saint_jhone_baptist_de_la_salle.jpg
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shawnbm
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Thank you, gentlemen. Now I have another question–do only priest (which would include bishops) wear cassocks (whether Roman, French, Jesuit or whatever) or do deacons (be they transitional or permanent) likewise wear them? Thanks.
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janeway529
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When is the “purple” or crimson cassock worn?
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anruari
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I agree with you. In its strict words so does Canon law. However in many dioceses the deacons are instructed not to wear clerical dress except with special permission (the direct opposite of normal Canon law).Can anyone post pictures of what these different cassocks look like? Thank you, and all clergy should wear clerical garb IMHO, including (perhaps especially, and always when doing parish work) permanent deacons.
Bishops do have the right to alert Canon law in their own diocese within a fairly broad scope so these variations would probably be found to be within their competence to decide.
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