It looks like he’s in Asia. That could be any community or even a secular priest. Most Catholic missionaries wore Asian clothes even as late as the time of St. Maximilian Kolbe who was a missionary and superior in Japan.
There are some details that can be known from captions in the photo. Firstly, the priest is French, as janeway529 pointed out. Secondly, he is the spiritual older brother (Chinese characters differentiate between elder and younger brothers) of St Therese. I’m not sure what the implications of this are, whether it is based upon religious seniority or merely age. Thirdly, he was a parish priest between 1902 to 1907. Fourthly, it gives the Mandarin phoneticisation of his name, but I am unable to trace it to a French name, so I can’t give an answer on what his name was.
That’s not entirely true, good Brother. The missionaries in the Malayan Archipelago did not use local dress. They stuck to their cassocks or other items of Western dress. Part of the reason for this was that Westerners already had a large presence there, so they did not look too much out of place. Furthermore, there was more than one culture present in the area, each with their own distinctive dress, so there was no one ‘local dress’ that would have made the priests fit in better without excluding the others. I guess it worked to their favour, because the locals would take a Westerner more seriously if he dressed as a Westerner would and not some other cultural group he was obviously not a part of.
In other words, it has been worn in communities such as Catholic communities or even non Catholic communities where there is a Western presence. One such example is Hong Kong. Hong Kong does not have as large a Catholic population as Viet Nam, but it is much more multicultural than was Viet Nam when the missionaries arrived.
I apologise for any offense, Brother. I only wished to mention a particular case regarding clerical dress in Asia. My simple-minded reading of your previous post suggested to me that you said that most Catholic priests in Asia did not retain their Western dress outside of well-established Catholic communities. In doing so, I was reminded of the Malayan Archipelago, which did not have a substantial Catholic community at all, but the missionaries still wore Western dress. I brought it up in order to discuss the reasons that led to this curiosity, as I thought this was an interesting exception to the principles that you have rightly stated to be the case. I did not realise that you had already incorporated that possibility into your previous post. I do not mean to suggest that you were mistaken about your facts or rules, and I certainly do not think that you are.
There’s also a much earlier occurrence of Fr. Matteo Ricci, SJ in the 16th-17th century in China, which got him in trouble with some Franciscans.
I don’t know that story. Why did he get into trouble with Franciscans? Didn’t they like his beard?There’s also a much earlier occurrence of Fr. Matteo Ricci, SJ in the 16th-17th century in China, which got him in trouble with some Franciscans.
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Looking sharp.There’s also a much earlier occurrence of Fr. Matteo Ricci, SJ in the 16th-17th century in China, which got him in trouble with some Franciscans.
Jesuits Homepage 2020 - Jesuits.org
When Fr. Matteo Ricci, SJ and his companions first made contact with the Chinese culture and Confucianism, Fr. Ricci recognized the need for a lengthy and uncertain dialogue based on mutual respect which he understood that they could not impose on Chinese people a faith mixed with European values and customs. (Sound familiar?I don’t know that story. Why did he get into trouble with Franciscans? Didn’t they like his beard?
)Yes, I know this story. The outcome of this is there emerged two definitions of grace. The Mendicants had one and the Jesuits had another. They got so angry at each other that they began to call each other heretics. The Jesuits argued that some of the local customs could mediate grace and the Mendicants said no way.When Fr. Matteo Ricci, SJ and his companions first made contact with the Chinese culture and Confucianism, Fr. Ricci recognized the need for a lengthy and uncertain dialogue based on mutual respect which he understood that they could not impose on Chinese people a faith mixed with European values and customs. (Sound familiar?
What followed became known as the “Chinese Rites Controversy.” Long story short, the Dominicans and the Franciscans disagreed with the Jesuits over the religiosity of certain Confucian practices which were considered by the Jesuits as compatible with Christianity. The Dominicans and Franciscans basically reported the Jesuits to Rome as “compromising or diluting the Faith.”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Rites_controversy
Ask him which church he’s a minister of. It’s the ONLY way.
Not to mention that some may even be part of sede vacantist groups.
I prefer a white space very slightly wider than a square. Not much, just a wee bit.
Like this: knightsofdivinemercy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Cardinal-Burke.jpgI’m pretty sure that they stole the paper covering from his globe. Imagine a Jesuit not being able to figure out which country to visit next.I don’t know that story. Why did he get into trouble with Franciscans? Didn’t they like his beard?
