Temptations That Traditionally Tempt Traditionalists

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We must have some detachment from the problems of the church.
We must strive for the church to be healthy but have some detachment. Do not let abuses stop us from growing in spirituality
This is sage advice. Detachment in general from everyday things in everyday life is very imporant, at least for me.

People freak out when someone touches the stapler on their desk at the office and spend a hundreds of dollars on Armor-All for a car which should have been in the junkyard three years ago. I used to be just like that.

A few hours after we die, no one will want to even look at us, and then our kids will come to our house and fight over who gets the DVD player. Three generations later, no one will even remember that we existed.

Detachment from created things is something I have worked very hard for, and prayed for. The little I have been granted is a great grace and it leads to much peace.

-Tim-
 
Detachment from created things is something I have worked very hard for, and prayed for. The little I have been granted is a great grace and it leads to much peace.

-Tim-
I’d love to hear more about this.

Maybe I’ll start a thread if you promise to participate? 🙂
 
This is sage advice. Detachment in general from everyday things in everyday life is very imporant, at least for me.

People freak out when someone touches the stapler on their desk at the office and spend a hundreds of dollars on Armor-All for a car which should have been in the junkyard three years ago. I used to be just like that.

A few hours after we die, no one will want to even look at us, and then our kids will come to our house and fight over who gets the DVD player. Three generations later, no one will even remember that we existed.

Detachment from created things is something I have worked very hard for, and prayed for. The little I have been granted is a great grace and it leads to much peace.

-Tim-
this is a great thread, and humbling

I think the greatest need in our Church today is humility … we have all heard the saying like " nothing is more powerful than a man on his knees in prayer" and the like

I definitely struggle with a lot of this, it seems once you “learn” a little about the rubrics and such, it is easy to notice the little things maybe not done properly…but we must realize, when we see these things, we are not concentrating on the Mass

one thing i generally see most everywhere, is the change from when I was growing up in the 60’s…Church was a sacred place…reverence was shown to the tabernacle at all times…and respect was common

instead of getting upset at these things, i now try to concentrate on the homilies…and we attend a parish now where the teaching is solid and we try to not notice the little things

one thing that has always bothered me - the disregard for the Pope that many have, and the seemingly easy disregard many have for the teachings of the Church - I admit I struggle with some of them, but we have to try to remember Jesus said “the gates of hell will not prevail”

for those who feel the Church is completely misguided, I would like to know which day Jesus went back on his word? I don’t believe he did, so I must support His Vicar.

the reason I quoted the post I did was out Priest last week spoke about this very detachment … said he has spent a lot of time over the years with people in hospital dying and never did a single person ever say - I regret not getting that bigger house or I regret not getting that raise or I regret not having more money - but rather they said things like - I wish I had spent more time with my family or I wish I had done more for this cause or I wish I had been a better husband or wife.

He said we have to step back from the world and re-set our priorities … solid prayer, active church life centred around our families

in our struggles and difference of opinions, let us get on our knees and pray for each other, and our Pope, and trust our Holy Mother to guide us to her Son
 
I’m not a traditionalist, but I have “traditional leanings” (And hopefully will soon enter a very traditional Carmel!:D) One temptation that I have encountered in both myself and in others like me is the tendency to become a little “pharisitical” if that’s a word. Meaning that I have to be aware that there is a difference between liturgical abuses and things that I just don’t care for.
Also, a tendency to let externals overwhelm the internal. For example: It’s no good to fast if I’m grouchy with my brother. I think the Dear Lord would prefer that I not worry about the external fast as much as He would like me to be kind to my brother:o
 
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Thanks for the link, Truelight & welcome home. God bless you.
 
I’d love to hear more about this.

Maybe I’ll start a thread if you promise to participate? 🙂
Sorry, handn’t come back to this thread in a while. I would love to discuss holy detachment and love of God above all things.

-Tim-
 
Sorry, handn’t come back to this thread in a while. I would love to discuss holy detachment and love of God above all things.

-Tim-
Would you mind starting it maybe with your viewpoint?
 
Would you mind starting it maybe with your viewpoint?
Yea, that would be good. In the spirituality forum? Or Trad Cath?

I have to run out to a meeting at my daughter’s school and I want to try to find the quote in the Merton book so it won’t be immediate.

-Tim-
 
I am so guilty of this, I was WAY too traditional for a while, but recently I found that St. Thomas Aquinas said that we can’t be too liberal but we can’t be too conservative either. So just like it would be wrong to join a call to action, a group of people whom are a bunch of raving looneys, it would also be wrong to follow the SSPX. We can’t be against the Pope and that’s what I’ve come to realize, I love the TLM and I wish I could always go to it, but if I can’t and I have to go to NO, I’m fine with that. I still have the same beliefs, lots of Catholics are poorly catechized and that is our special mission as people that do know our faith, to educate others, in a charitable fashion, and to teach non-Catholics about the true faith by living in a way that projects Christ to the world. I have a lot if traditional views but there are definitely some out there that would tell me I’m not traditional enough; I just pray that we all get to Heaven.
 
I am so guilty of this, I was WAY too traditional for a while, but recently I found that St. Thomas Aquinas said that we can’t be too liberal but we can’t be too conservative either. So just like it would be wrong to join a call to action, a group of people whom are a bunch of raving looneys, it would also be wrong to follow the SSPX. We can’t be against the Pope and that’s what I’ve come to realize, I love the TLM and I wish I could always go to it, but if I can’t and I have to go to NO, I’m fine with that. I still have the same beliefs, lots of Catholics are poorly catechized and that is our special mission as people that do know our faith, to educate others, in a charitable fashion, and to teach non-Catholics about the true faith by living in a way that projects Christ to the world. I have a lot if traditional views but there are definitely some out there that would tell me I’m not traditional enough; I just pray that we all get to Heaven.
Recently, I’ve tried to focus on loving my brothers and sisters. I may feel a certain way about certain things, but I’m trying to focus on living by example. I’m starting to stay away from literature that has a superior tone. All of us are sinners.

My goal, and most of the time I fail miserably, is to promote in my own way the old rites, while remaining charitable. If we do it any other way, we are more likely to turn people off, rather than attract them.
 
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