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What behaviour do you mean? The passing of a law, respectivly in fact that “a proposal to enshrine the measure in law has been tabled” (a proposal which apparently no one in this thread has seen) ? Trade with the U.S.? Employment of house-keepers? First-grade cousins marrying each other, which is legal in many U.states, done e.g. by Charles Darwin, and alright with many Churches, not so though (anymore) with the progressive Catholic Church which realized that times slightly changed and that many “girls” have plenty of opportunities to meet (and to grow up with) “boys” in a wider circle than used to be common?What are you trying to say
Are you excusing the behavior of groups like the Saudis?
Attempting to explain it?
What is your point?
Also, e.g. in Switzerland apparently a law was passed in the lines of prohibiting any human to walk among mountains naked. Do you condemn such law?
Yes, a point is about explaining a bit of it (in my view), another point being about that e.g. just because many (e.g.) so-called Americans would do an equivalent of Hajj all the way in cars does not mean that everyone else would have to follow such “example”.
Sure, in SA there probably are idolatry of “child”, porn idolatry, domestic violence, and other things too, but these issues aren’t limited to any sub-group of humans.
As for the mentioned proposal, if it would be up for vote and I had a vote, I would vote Nay (based on what we did read here about it), probably similarly if I had veto though I am not in Saudi Arabia and haven’t been there this life so generally doing judgement on what are basically social matters without really being properly familiar with set society would seem hypocritical, wouldn’t it? And, although not necessarily likely, perhaps there most of women with voting rights do want veils for females in public to be mandatory - wouldn’t it then be sexist to prohibit them such?
Yes, nazi comparisons tended to be overused, and a lot of them are flawed, respectivly within limited boundaries. Nevertheless, nazis were (and are) one of the bad guys not because of losing the war. And in times when many seem to have “right” and “wrong” messed up, nazis seem as a good example of many wrong things which are, or can be, in same or other forms still actual today, especially as the economic situation (in the U.S.) is compared to the Great Depression (and there probably being too much money in “circulation”) which in itself would not cause a collapse of the political system in the U.S. due to political system with basically two political parties, but the situation, where millions (with 1, 2 or 3 digits) of persons are more or less suddenly out of work without anything to do, can be a factor in eventual various bad stuff happening. My point here being that kinds of bashing, on various sites on the interwebs, are (chaotic) non-sense. As for criticism, in particular of Islam, e.g. engaged Christians can surely relate in terms of being criticised themselves and in terms of deflection of issues (such as criticism of a part of Christians not being considered worth a reply by other parts of Christians, even when it isn’t clear from the criticism which Christians in particular it is on about).
e.g.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Hinduism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Judaism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Christianity
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Islam
Yes, (particular) criticism of Islam could be compared to criticism by Paul of (part of) Judaism, but Paul had at least first hand experience, and was arguably educated (in the matters he was on about).
So, what I am on about regarding this is that I wouldn’t silence or such criticism, nevertheless, actual criticism is in one definition anti-prejudice, not pro-prejudice, and there is obviously a noticable difference between substantiated criticism and kind of satanic criticism (for the sake of whatever campaign). Relevant things are of course that of (merit of) who is criticising, and what, respectivly who (for what), is being criticised, and the manner in which such criticism is done, as well the environment thereof.
All in all, kind of at the base of religion is education and non-violence (except for survival; and for kind of measured violence in sports or in upbringing which isn’t really spiritual though albeit in terms of spirituality can be a kind of, self-inflicted, spiritual and bodily technique, certainly not meaning sadism, masochism, ond such). Violence is, respectivly attempts of violence are, physical, ond psychical.
Nevertheless, true, similar to as I pointed out regarding criticism, me criticising ‘nazi propaganda’ is the same in effect, that is none, as the Bruce Almighties are not going to grow up or grow cultivated in manners because of it, and it isn’t going to stop paid for smear campaigns. Also true, that these things depend a bit on media-cultural/social norms/customs, such as dissing - the meaning of which is, I guess, to make the dissed “earn respect” - a form of motivation I guess. A thing about that though being that not everyone is in the habit of diss games, nor interested in such, albeit it certainly seems better than shooting anyone, bombing, poisoning, etc.
),and yes, and there is a law in the Quran that requires at least four witnesses for adultery:
). I decided to become a Roman Catholic, but I still have respect for Muslims even though I do not accept Islam or Muhammad, and if you meet a Muslim do not look at him/her in an inferior manner, but be nice to them so they can see what a true Catholic acts like and that will hopefully increase their interest in the Church and better the impression they have of it.