Ten Commandments

[donsnow]

Hi,

I went and browsed through the Apologetics stickys, and wound up back here.
I have a question.

Do each of the Ten Commandments address a mortal sin?
That’s my understanding, I just want to make sure I learned it right.

Thank you,
Don

 

[Cristian_B]

I believe yes. Idolatry, murdering, stealing, etc. are all mortal sins.

 

[geometer]

Hi,

I went and browsed through the Apologetics stickys, and wound up back here.
I have a question.

Do each of the Ten Commandments address a mortal sin?
That’s my understanding, I just want to make sure I learned it right.

Thank you,
Don

Three of the commandments are performances. You are to know god who brings you out of trouble. You are to work, and rest on the Sabbath day, and you are to honor your father and mother.

Be good now…

 

[momor]

Some are only mortal sins in the extreme. There are many ways to dishonor parents, lie, steal, etc. that would not rise to the grave matter requirement.

 

[geometer]

Some are only mortal sins in the extreme. There are many ways to dishonor parents, lie, steal, etc. that would not rise to the grave matter requirement.

Bearing false witness and stealing are mortal sins. Stealing from you parents is regarded as an ultimate transgression by the jews. If you do that they no longer consider you to be human, they have a special word for such a person.

If you think that these things are not grave matters, you just haven’t been listening to your teachers.

 

[donsnow]

Thanks, all -

You see, I converted to Catholic from Baptist a long time ago. I’m learning the two have some different basic teachings. As a boy in Sunday School, our teacher told us that all Ten Commandments have equal weight (in seriousness) to each other. So, transliterating that to Catholic, is why I’m asking if they’re all mortal sins. I would think so. Just making sure.

I don’t get out and about as much as I used to, or I would go to the Cathedral refresher RICA class. The teacher there sure could tell me.

Don

 

[momor]

Bearing false witness and stealing are mortal sins. Stealing from you parents is regarded as an ultimate transgression by the jews. If you do that they no longer consider you to be human, they have a special word for such a person.

If you think that these things are not grave matters, you just haven’t been listening to your teachers.

I don’t agree.
If I steal a post-it note or pen from my workplace I am not committing a mortal sin.

If I tell a white lie to keep from hurting someone’s feelings I am not comitting a mortal sin.

If a teenager disobeys a parent in a non-serious manner (not taking out the trash) they are not commiting a mortal sin.

A mortal sin is one involving grave matter, not necessarily just breaking a commandment.

 

[geometer]

I don’t agree.
If I steal a post-it note or pen from my workplace I am not committing a mortal sin.

If I tell a white lie to keep from hurting someone’s feelings I am not comitting a mortal sin.

If a teenager disobeys a parent in a non-serious manner (not taking out the trash) they are not commiting a mortal sin.

A mortal sin is one involving grave matter, not necessarily just breaking a commandment.

You don’t seem to know the meaning of the commandments. Telling a white lie to prevent hurtinging ones feelings is not what is prohibited by thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. It is about telling a lie that injures your neighbor, a criminal lie.

Pilfering is a very serious psychological marker. It is a serious character flaw. Persons who shoplift, or steal from their employers are most likely to commit really horrendous crimes. Check with FBI studies.

The scripture says, he who is unfaithful in small things will be unfaithful in the greatest things.

 

[momor]

You don’t seem to know the meaning of the commandments. Telling a white lie to prevent hurtinging ones feelings is not what is prohibited by thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. It is about telling a lie that injures your neighbor, a criminal lie.

The commandment does not only apply to the literal wording. It encompasses all lies. All lies are sinful, some more than others. Perjury could be a mortal sin. Harmful gossip could be a mortal sin.

Pilfering is a very serious psychological marker. It is a serious character flaw. Persons who shoplift, or steal from their employers are most likely to commit really horrendous crimes. Check with FBI studies.

This comment is off topic.

 

[geometer]

The commandment does not only apply to the literal wording. It encompasses all lies. All lies are sinful, some more than others. Perjury could be a mortal sin. Harmful gossip could be a mortal sin.

Pilfering is a very serious psychological marker. It is a serious character flaw. Persons who shoplift, or steal from their employers are most likely to commit really horrendous crimes. Check with FBI studies.

This comment is off topic.

You just want to complain…

 

[Cristian_B]

In short, God does not condemn you by what you’ve done but by the intentions you had while doing it. Am I wrong?

 

[donsnow]

In short, God does not condemn you by what you’ve done but by the intentions you had while doing it. Am I wrong?

Hi, Cristian -

I think we condemn ourselves by the wrong we do or say, and that if we have not good intentions in the good we do, then we are hypocrites.
I believe the God of Salvation doesn’t condemn us, the wrongs we do or say, we condemn ourselves. I wonder what the Church teaches on this?

Don

 

[Cristian_B]

Hi, Cristian -

I think we condemn ourselves by the wrong we do or say, and that if we have not good intentions in the good we do, then we are hypocrites.
I believe the God of Salvation doesn’t condemn us, the wrongs we do or say, we condemn ourselves. I wonder what the Church teaches on this?

Don

I’ll try to reformulate: God does not judge our actions by what they appear to be, but by the intentions we had while doing them.

 

[donsnow]

I’ll try to reformulate: God does not judge our actions by what they appear to be, but by the intentions we had while doing them.

Hi, Cristian -

OK.

There’s a CAF Forum, where Catholics and non-Catholics can compare differences in teachings.

Don

 

[momor]

I’ll try to reformulate: God does not judge our actions by what they appear to be, but by the intentions we had while doing them.

Hi,
From a Catholic perspective there are actually 3 things that must be present for a sin to be mortal (to remove us from the state of grace).

It must involve grave (serious) matter
We must know it is a grave sin
We must commit the sin with full consent of our free will

If any one of those 3 elements is missing it is not a mortal sin.

Sometimes it can be hard to know for sure if a sin is venial or mortal. Talking to a priest during confession can sort it out.

So to answer your original question, breaking any of the commandments could be a mortal sin if all 3 elements are present.

Hope this helps.

 

[donsnow]

Hi,
From a Catholic perspective there are actually 3 things that must be present for a sin to be mortal (to remove us from the state of grace).

It must involve grave (serious) matter
We must know it is a grave sin
We must commit the sin with full consent of our free will

If any one of those 3 elements is missing it is not a mortal sin.

Sometimes it can be hard to know for sure if a sin is venial or mortal. Talking to a priest during confession can sort it out.

So to answer your original question, breaking any of the commandments could be a mortal sin if all 3 elements are present.

Hope this helps.

Hi, momor -

It helped me.

Thank you,
Don