Tensions rise as Chirac walks out on EU forum

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Adonis33:
I thought this was interesting.

Jacques Chirac, French president, Thursday night stormed out of a European Union summit after a French industrialist began addressing leaders of the bloc in English.

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mais naturellement,Le président est français… c’est compréhensible 😉
 
hmm…in my opinion, the European Union is just a bomb waiting to go off.
 
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m134e5:
hmm…in my opinion, the European Union is just a bomb waiting to go off.
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Yep. Nationalism will always get in the way.

PF
 
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MikeWM:
Why? And how?

Mike
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Because the European countries have had their own interests for hundreds of years. Even less than a century ago, they were holding on to conflicts that had been building since the dark ages. They have worked peacefully together at times, but they have always been sovereign- or have been fighting to become so. Certain countries, like Britain and Ireland, Britain and France, and others have traditionally been enemies. While the ‘enlightenment’ got rid of a lot of what was left of feudal Europe, I predict there will be a renewed interest by Europeans in nationalism when they finally realize that the things that make their countries great- the things that their forefathers were so proud of- are slowly being eaten away by the alliances that go a bit too far. When that renewed sense of nationalism comes, they will try to divide again, and there will be yet another world war.
 
The members seem to be more focused on what can I get out of it, than what can I put into it. It resembles our original Union under the Articles of Confederation more that the subsequent Union under the Constitution - the individual nation is primary, the union secondary. **
 
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m134e5:
Because the European countries have had their own interests for hundreds of years. Even less than a century ago, they were holding on to conflicts that had been building since the dark ages. They have worked peacefully together at times, but they have always been sovereign- or have been fighting to become so.
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That is exactly why the European Union is so important. Churchill, among many others, realised that.
Certain countries, like Britain and Ireland, Britain and France, and others have traditionally been enemies. While the ‘enlightenment’ got rid of a lot of what was left of feudal Europe, I predict there will be a renewed interest by Europeans in nationalism when they finally realize that the things that make their countries great- the things that their forefathers were so proud of- are slowly being eaten away by the alliances that go a bit too far.
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I don’t think they are though. What exactly is being ‘eaten away’?
When that renewed sense of nationalism comes, they will try to divide again, and there will be yet another world war.
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I think that is unnecessarily fatalistic. The character of the EU will likely change in the future, but I doubt it will result in anything as serious as a world war.

Mike
 
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