Terminology of Protestants

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Can anyone give me an answer to a question I’ve had for a very long time and didn’t think it important enough to ask. But I’d really like an answer to this because it’s still nagging at me.

Why is it that Protestants use words like ‘anointed’, ‘restored/and restoration’, ‘Praise the Lord’, and when someone dies they say ‘going to glory’, ‘wait on the Lord’, ‘covered by his wings’, ‘abide in me’, just to name a few? I realize these are all scriptural terms, but how come Catholics don’t use these terms also since they are very pretty.

I personally like them, but try not to use them or I’ll sound Protestant. Is there anyone that can enlighten me as to why these terms are used mainly only by Protestants. At least, I have never heard Catholics use them. Nor have I heard Protestants use Catholic terminology.

Also why are Protestants so opposed to making the sign of the cross or blessing themselves with holy water? What is it that bothers you about it? This mystifies me. Nor do they bow before the alter of the Lord in a Catholic church if they ever have opportunity to go there. I’ve had a few Protestant friends that have gone to mass with me and they will not bow before the holy crucifix nor bless themselves from the holy water font?

I will wait for some good (name removed by moderator)ut.

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Can anyone give me an answer to a question I’ve had for a very long time and didn’t think it important enough to ask. But I’d really like an answer to this because it’s still nagging at me.

Why is it that Protestants use words like ‘anointed’, ‘restored/and restoration’, ‘Praise the Lord’, and when someone dies they say ‘going to glory’, ‘wait on the Lord’, ‘covered by his wings’, ‘abide in me’, just to name a few? I realize these are all scriptural terms, but how come Catholics don’t use these terms also since they are very pretty.

I personally like them, but try not to use them or I’ll sound Protestant. Is there anyone that can enlighten me as to why these terms are used mainly only by Protestants. At least, I have never heard Catholics use them. Nor have I heard Protestants use Catholic terminology.

Also why are Protestants so opposed to making the sign of the cross or blessing themselves with holy water? What is it that bothers you about it? This mystifies me. Nor do they bow before the alter of the Lord in a Catholic church if they ever have opportunity to go there. I’ve had a few Protestant friends that have gone to mass with me and they will not bow before the holy crucifix nor bless themselves from the holy water font?

I will wait for some good (name removed by moderator)ut.

:snowing: :winter: :curtsey:
Oh my, I’m really confused here as to who you are talking about when you say Protestants. I nor anyone I know of in my church uses those terms such as “wait on the Lord” and I cross myself as do our priests and we also have crucifixes and holy water as well and lo and behold, I am a Protestant! I am mystified as to who you are referring to.
 
Can anyone give me an answer to a question I’ve had for a very long time and didn’t think it important enough to ask. But I’d really like an answer to this because it’s still nagging at me.

Why is it that Protestants use words like ‘anointed’, ‘restored/and restoration’, ‘Praise the Lord’, and when someone dies they say ‘going to glory’, ‘wait on the Lord’, ‘covered by his wings’, ‘abide in me’, just to name a few? I realize these are all scriptural terms, but how come Catholics don’t use these terms also since they are very pretty.

I personally like them, but try not to use them or I’ll sound Protestant. Is there anyone that can enlighten me as to why these terms are used mainly only by Protestants. At least, I have never heard Catholics use them. Nor have I heard Protestants use Catholic terminology.

Also why are Protestants so opposed to making the sign of the cross or blessing themselves with holy water? What is it that bothers you about it? This mystifies me. Nor do they bow before the alter of the Lord in a Catholic church if they ever have opportunity to go there. I’ve had a few Protestant friends that have gone to mass with me and they will not bow before the holy crucifix nor bless themselves from the holy water font?

I will wait for some good (name removed by moderator)ut.

:snowing: :winter: :curtsey:
I know what you are referring to but I’m having difficulty putting it into words that would make sense to you
 
Some terms represent doctrinal leanings. If someone says they are, “washed in the blood of the lamb” and that they sing, “there is power, power, wonder working power in the blood,” there’s a good chance they are Assembly of God.

Others are simply regional/national variations. Sort of like I call non alcoholic, carbonated, beverages, “soda” and some of my friends call it, “pop”.

As to why certain protestants don’t cross themselves or participate in other typically Catholic actions, some object to them on theological grounds and others are just ignorant of the customs. In like fashion, would you know the proper way to behave in a Buddhist ceremony to appease the hungry ghosts?

Paul
 
Oh my, I’m really confused here as to who you are talking about when you say Protestants. I nor anyone I know of in my church uses those terms such as “wait on the Lord” and I cross myself as do our priests and we also have crucifixes and holy water as well and lo and behold, I am a Protestant! I am mystified as to who you are referring to.
Thank you so much for telling me this. I’ve never heard of it and I have loads of Protestant friends. My one friend who is close to me is Methodist and although she does not use these terms herself, she’s quite familiar with them and doesn’t deny that people from her church use this terminology. I’m very surprised to say the least that you’re not familiar with it. Are you possibly Episcopolian maybe, or is this prevalant maybe only in certain churches? My friend wouldn’t dream of making the sign of the cross, not any other Protestant that I’ve ever known. But thanks much for sharing.

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believers… know what you are referring to but I’m having difficulty putting it into words that would make sense to you
Explain if possible. I do understand a lot about Protestants since I have numerous Protestant friends and we all joke around about agreeing to disagree so there are never any issues with us. Still, I’m curious about this. Thanks so much for sharing anyway.
 
Thank you so much for telling me this. I’ve never heard of it and I have loads of Protestant friends. My one friend who is close to me is Methodist and although she does not use these terms herself, she’s quite familiar with them and doesn’t deny that people from her church use this terminology. I’m very surprised to say the least that you’re not familiar with it. Are you possibly Episcopolian maybe, or is this prevalant maybe only in certain churches? My friend wouldn’t dream of making the sign of the cross, not any other Protestant that I’ve ever known. But thanks much for sharing.

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Explain if possible. I do understand a lot about Protestants since I have numerous Protestant friends and we all joke around about agreeing to disagree so there are never any issues with us. Still, I’m curious about this. Thanks so much for sharing anyway.
The problem with using the term “Protestant” is that it is so broad that its meaning is almost completely nullified when you apply it to reality. There are Protestants that would consider my church and I completely of the evil one and on our way to hell in a handbasket for various reasons. I am Anglican by the way.
 
Some terms represent doctrinal leanings. If someone says they are, “washed in the blood of the lamb” and that they sing, “there is power, power, wonder working power in the blood,” there’s a good chance they are Assembly of God.

Others are simply regional/national variations. Sort of like I call non alcoholic, carbonated, beverages, “soda” and some of my friends call it, “pop”.

As to why certain protestants don’t cross themselves or participate in other typically Catholic actions, some object to them on theological grounds and others are just ignorant of the customs. In like fashion, would you know the proper way to behave in a Buddhist ceremony to appease the hungry ghosts?
Paul
This makes great sense to me now that I look at it from this perspective. Your point about soda/and/or/pop was a good one. It’s probably then just custom and teachings of their particular denomination. I still kind of wish that the Catholic church would use some of those pretty words. Oh well, guess I’ll just have to enjoy listening to Protestants I’ve met along the way that use them. Thanks for this good information.
But my last words are “I am washed in the blood of the Lamb.” lol
 
Hislittlelady,

Start a trend in your parish, start using these beautiful terms and maybe it might catch on.👍
 
Hislittlelady,

Start a trend in your parish, start using these beautiful terms and maybe it might catch on.👍
I’d love to and I’m sure the priests would think me very strange, but I have to confess I do use these terms from time to time. It just comes naturally even though I’m firmly rooted in my Catholic faith. I have never heard a single Catholic use any of these terms except for me lol. So I guess if they come out naturally then it must be correct for me to use. This is saying all good things so can’t be sinful. As long as I stay close to my Catholic teaching which I fully believe, then I’m sure it will be okay. Great idea.🙂
 
Can anyone give me an answer to a question I’ve had for a very long time and didn’t think it important enough to ask. But I’d really like an answer to this because it’s still nagging at me.

Why is it that Protestants use words like ‘anointed’, ‘restored/and restoration’, ‘Praise the Lord’, and when someone dies they say ‘going to glory’, ‘wait on the Lord’, ‘covered by his wings’, ‘abide in me’, just to name a few? I realize these are all scriptural terms, but how come Catholics don’t use these terms also since they are very pretty.

I personally like them, but try not to use them or I’ll sound Protestant. Is there anyone that can enlighten me as to why these terms are used mainly only by Protestants. At least, I have never heard Catholics use them. Nor have I heard Protestants use Catholic terminology.

Also why are Protestants so opposed to making the sign of the cross or blessing themselves with holy water? What is it that bothers you about it? This mystifies me. Nor do they bow before the alter of the Lord in a Catholic church if they ever have opportunity to go there. I’ve had a few Protestant friends that have gone to mass with me and they will not bow before the holy crucifix nor bless themselves from the holy water font?

I will wait for some good (name removed by moderator)ut.

:snowing: :winter: :curtsey:/QUO

A lot of times people are afraid of a.) what they do no know about, and b.) what they have been taught incorrect things about. Basically, sometimes it is just out of ignorance. I mean no offense by that, but it just tends to be the truth for some people. I wish we would do those things. They are wonderful and exciting things that I think we (well, some of us) are missing out on.
 
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Can anyone give me an answer to a question I’ve had for a very long time and didn’t think it important enough to ask. But I’d really like an answer to this because it’s still nagging at me.

Why is it that Protestants use words like ‘anointed’, ‘restored/and restoration’, ‘Praise the Lord’, and when someone dies they say ‘going to glory’, ‘wait on the Lord’, ‘covered by his wings’, ‘abide in me’, just to name a few? I realize these are all scriptural terms, but how come Catholics don’t use these terms also since they are very pretty.

I personally like them, but try not to use them or I’ll sound Protestant. Is there anyone that can enlighten me as to why these terms are used mainly only by Protestants. At least, I have never heard Catholics use them. Nor have I heard Protestants use Catholic terminology.

Also why are Protestants so opposed to making the sign of the cross or blessing themselves with holy water? What is it that bothers you about it? This mystifies me. Nor do they bow before the alter of the Lord in a Catholic church if they ever have opportunity to go there. I’ve had a few Protestant friends that have gone to mass with me and they will not bow before the holy crucifix nor bless themselves from the holy water font?

I will wait for some good (name removed by moderator)ut.

:snowing: :winter: :curtsey:[/QUO

A lot of times people are afraid of a.) what they do no know about, and b.) what they have been taught incorrect things about. Basically, sometimes it is just out of ignorance. I mean no offense by that, but it just tends to be the truth for some people. I wish we would do those things. They are wonderful and exciting things that I think we (well, some of us) are missing out on.
Who’s to say you can’t make the sign of the cross? Why not. What will the minister say if he sees you do this? It certainly can’t be something bad if you’re showing a sign of respect for the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Just as I feel why can’t I use those expressions which come so naturally out of me because when I hear a non-Catholic say these things, I secretly say them along with them. This in no way is disrespecting or turning our backs on our own particular church or traditions, but just adding a little bit of sweet flavor to our own personal worship of Jesus. Praise God. I am Catholic and washed in the blood of the Lamb!
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Your questions, which follow, cannot, as has already been expressed, be applied to all protestants across the board. Even protestants of the same faith, per se, do not always agree as to terminology, however, I will here, give my personal view and outlook on what you ask.
Can anyone give me an answer to a question I’ve had for a very long time and didn’t think it important enough to ask. But I’d really like an answer to this because it’s still nagging at me.
Firstly, it is good that you inquire of such things, as this shows a willingness to understand those who are outside your own faith. Understanding is the first step to peaceful dialog, which leads to friendship, even though full agreement is not acheived.
Why is it that Protestants use words like ‘anointed’, ‘restored/and restoration’, ‘Praise the Lord’, and when someone dies they say ‘going to glory’, ‘wait on the Lord’, ‘covered by his wings’, ‘abide in me’, just to name a few? I realize these are all scriptural terms, but how come Catholics don’t use these terms also since they are very pretty.
I will take the words individually and hope I can explain, at least my position on these.
  1. Anointed. - When the word is used it is usually referring to the Holy Spirit. As Christ was “anointed” by the Holy Spirit at his baptism, so are we “anointed” at our baptism. Furthermore, Christ “anointed” his disciples when he sent them to preach two by two while he was still with them. In Acts, we find several instances, please don’t ask me to quote where as I do not have my Bible at ready access at this time, in which not only the Apostles but those who were with them were “anointed” with the Holy Spirit. So when “Protestants” use the term “Anointed” it is in these contexts to which the term is used.
Restored/Restoration. Upon the Cross Christ died for our sins, his blood was shed for us so that we may be “Restored” to the same relationship that was originally granted to Adam and Eve. With out his sacrifice and our acceptance of it there is no possibility of that “Restoration”.

Praise the Lord. Often over used and miss used, However, when used properly and in the right context it is just what it sounds, a Praise unto the Lord. An expression of thanksgiving when a prayer is answered or some joyful event has happened. Personally, I often use it even when things do not go right, for “all things are good to the glory of God.” Even when evil befalls us, God brings something good out of it, so “Praise the Lord” in all things.

Wait on the Lord. It is what we should all be doing. It is what he commanded us to do, “Watch and Wait” But it is not just for his second coming that we should “wait” on him, but we should “wait” on him when we pray, it is in answer to our prayers that we should wait and not trying to force our will upon God but rather let the Holy Spirit of God lead us to that which is desirable of God. I have personally experience the pitfalls of not waiting for God to answer a prayer, either positively or negatively, to my own detriment and have learned to be patient in “waiting on the Lord.” He will and does answer prayers, not always the way WE would like, but “His will be done” and for our own good.

Covered by his wings, I’ve never used that one, God nor Jesus has wings and therefore such a term, to me, is silly.

Abide in me. Is another reference to the Holy Spirit, also a reference to the scripture in which Jesus states that as the Father abides in him he will abide in us and we in him. A sign of unity. As a “church”, the bride of Christ, we are also to abide in one another, giving support, encouragement and help whenever needed.
I personally like them, but try not to use them or I’ll sound Protestant. Is there anyone that can enlighten me as to why these terms are used mainly only by Protestants. At least, I have never heard Catholics use them. Nor have I heard Protestants use Catholic terminology.
Would it make you any less Catholic if you used these terms? There are many terms that both Catholics and “Protestants” use that are the same. Does that make Protestants any less Protestant?
Also why are Protestants so opposed to making the sign of the cross or blessing themselves with holy water? What is it that bothers you about it? This mystifies me. Nor do they bow before the alter of the Lord in a Catholic church if they ever have opportunity to go there. I’ve had a few Protestant friends that have gone to mass with me and they will not bow before the holy crucifix nor bless themselves from the holy water font?
Now we get into a little bit stickier subject, which many on this forum would consider offensive if expounded upon. No offense is meant here as the OP has posed a question of which she is entitled to a response.

Why are “Protestants” opposed to making the sign of the cross or blessing themselves with holy water. Flatly, these are consided, by many Protestants, to be acts of Idolarty of which they cannot and will not partake in. The same goes for bowing before an alter or any graven image. Enough said, as this should sufficiently answer the question posed.

I hope this helps.
 
Can anyone give me an answer to a question I’ve had for a very long time and didn’t think it important enough to ask. But I’d really like an answer to this because it’s still nagging at me.

Why is it that Protestants use words like ‘anointed’, ‘restored/and restoration’, ‘Praise the Lord’, and when someone dies they say ‘going to glory’, ‘wait on the Lord’, ‘covered by his wings’, ‘abide in me’, just to name a few? I realize these are all scriptural terms, but how come Catholics don’t use these terms also since they are very pretty.

I personally like them, but try not to use them or I’ll sound Protestant. Is there anyone that can enlighten me as to why these terms are used mainly only by Protestants. At least, I have never heard Catholics use them. Nor have I heard Protestants use Catholic terminology.

Also why are Protestants so opposed to making the sign of the cross or blessing themselves with holy water? What is it that bothers you about it? This mystifies me. Nor do they bow before the alter of the Lord in a Catholic church if they ever have opportunity to go there. I’ve had a few Protestant friends that have gone to mass with me and they will not bow before the holy crucifix nor bless themselves from the holy water font?

I will wait for some good (name removed by moderator)ut.

:snowing: :winter: :curtsey:
Every Ecclesial Community has their particular “Church Speak.” Words convey ideas and certain phrases are known to convey a certain idea to a particular audience.

“Born Again” to an American Evangelical Christian means that the person had a profound religious experience and that experience is seen as the person moment of salvation.

“Born Again” to a Catholic means a person got baptized.

“Anointed” to an Evangelical Charismatic Christian means that they think a person has been blessed by a particular gift of the Holy Spirit for teaching, or prophesying, or edifying the Church in some sort of ministry, etc.

“Anointed” to a Catholic means there has been a movement of the Holy Spirit in a person as visualized by the anointing with oil by a representative of Apostolic Succession in a Rite as prescribed by the Church (i.e. Holy Orders, Confirmation).

If a non-Catholic Christian was speaking to you about some sort of ailment or trouble in his or her life and then you said in reply, “Offer it up,” most likely they would think you odd and uncaring about their plight, even though you just gave them the very best advice for dealing with their given situation.

If you want to use various Church Speak expressions, make sure your audience knows the meaning you wish it to convey. You don’t want to be misunderstood, this is very important just ask Nestorius 😉 .

As far as various people not paying heed to Catholic customs is due to: being ignorant of those customs; and / or not agreeing with the custom on a theological basis (Why bow if you don’t believe Christ is physically present? Why bless with water if you don’t believe in sacramental theology?)

Hope that helps 🙂
 
First of all, if you consider a likeness of Christ a graven image, you are sick. The same for the Eucharist, which is Christ’s body.

Next, we do not bow or genuflect “to the altar”. We are bowing and genuflecting to the Tabernacle or the place where Christ (the Eucharist) is present. If Christ is present on the altar, then yes we bow in that direction. However it’s not the altar itself we are bowing to.

You can read this in any instruction given to an altar server or in the Catechism itself. If folks would read the Catechism instead of simply parroting what they’ve heard all their lives, they would probably agree with most of it if not all.

In order to be committing idolatry a person would have to consciously consider the object of worhsip a god as in INSTEAD OF GOD THE FATHER. In otherwords, if I look at a fork and believe that it gives me salvation and I pray to the fork and consider it my god, then yes I’ve commited idolatry.

This is just one more way Protestants set themselves apart from Catholics. I guess Protestants are worshipping their beds every night if they bow there and say their prayers as if God were sitting on their bed…oh wait HE IS.

That one is just a no-brainer. I’m sorry but this one is just a pet peeve of mine. :o
 
And like a train jumping the track, the thread just derailed.

Paul
 
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Firstly, it is good that you inquire of such things, as this shows a willingness to under stand those who are outside your own faith. Understand is the first step to peaceful dialog, which leads to friendship, even though full agreement is not acheived
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Very well put Sabbath Keeper. I agree!
  1. Anointed. - When the word is used it is usually refering to the Holy Spirit. As Christ was “anointed” by the Holy Spirit at is baptism, so are we “anointed” at our baptism. Furthermore, Christ “anointed” his disciples when he sent them to preach two by two while he was still with them. In Acts, we find several instances in which not only the Apostles but those who were with them were “anointed” with the Holy Spirit. So when “Protestants” use the term “Anointed” it is in these contexts to which the term is used.
I didn’t know exactly where the word started but I always thought that ‘anointed’ meant blessing. I have no idea why Catholics never use this term. I like it.
Restored/Restoration. Upon the Cross Christ died for our sins, his blood was shed for us to that we may be “Restored” to the same relationship that was originally granted to Adam and Eve. With out his sacrifice and our acceptance of it there is no possibility of that “Restoration”.
I would think this is the equivalent to our sacrament of “confession.” which I realize not many believe in for either lack of understanding or just unacceptance of it, but that’s how we Catholics consider ourselves restored, just don’t use the word restored, but forgiven.
Praise the Lord. Often over used and miss used, However, when used properly and in the right context it is just what is sound, a Praise unto the Lord. An expression of thanksgiving when a prayer is answered or some joyful event has happened. Personally, I often use it even when things do go right, for “all things are good to the glory of God.” Even when evil befalls us, God brings something good out of it, so “Praise the Lord” in all things.
I praise God all day long. He should be praised. He is God. Many people call those that use this term ‘holy rollers’. Ridiculous!
Wait on the Lord. It is what we should all be doing. It is what he commanded us to do, “Watch and Wait” But it is not just for his second coming that we should “wait” on him, but we should “wait” on him when we pray, it is in answer to our prayers that we should wait and not trying to force our will upon God but rather let the Holy Spirit of God lead us to that which is desirable of God. I have personally experience the pitfalls of not waiting for God to answer a prayer, either positively or negatively, to my own detriment and have learned to be patient in “waiting on the Lord.” He will and does answer prayers, not always the way WE would like, but “His will be done” and for our own good.
Same principle as Catholics but different wording. We must all wait for God’s timing.
Covered by his wings, I’ve never used that one, God nor Jesus has wings and therefore such a term, to me, is silly.
Quite true but strangely comforting. I would consider this a phrase intended to comfort someone since of course it’s silly to think of God having wings.
Abide in me. Is another reference to the Holy Spirit, also a reference to the scripture it which Jesus states that as the Father abides in him he will abide in us an we in him. A sign of unity. As a “church”, the bride of Christ, we are also to abide in one another, giving support, encouragement and help whenever needed
Absolutely. Still wording not used by Catholics. I love it.
Would it make you any less Catholic if you used these terms? There are many terms that both Catholics and “Protestants” use the are the same. Does the make Protestants and less Protestant?
Definitely not. I will and do use them at times but not often heard within the Catholic church itself. Everything is the same except we use different words but I understand that it’s just a matter of custom and upbringing in a particular church.
Now we get into a little bit stickier subject, which many on this forum would consider offensive if expounded upon. No offense in meant here as the OP has posed a question of which she is entitled to a response.
Why do “Protestants” opposed to making the sign of the cross or blessing themselves with holy water. Flatly, these are consided, by many Protestants, to be acts of Idolarty of which they cannot and will not partake in. The same goes for bowing before an alter or any graven image. Enough said, as this should sufficiently answer the question posed.
I understand your point of view but Catholics absolutely do not worship icons and idols at all. For myself and I’m sure most Catholics, we kneel before a statue of Jesus or Mary, and in no way adore the statue which is made of plaster or other materials of earth, but it’s merely a representation to bring the image of God into our mind which helps us to pray. I know for myself, when I kneel before a statue of the Sacred Heart of Jesus, my soul is absolutely lifted up to heaven and I feel his presence. The statue is simply a reminder and nothing more. The sign of the cross is a blessing of respect for the Lord. Bowing before the front altar of the Lord in the church is out of deep love and respect for God and we humble ourselves by bending one knee. It’s not the statue at all but God himself who is represented to remind us.

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Do not make graven images is in scripture. We don’t call our icons which also are used in all the Eastern Orthodox churches, graven images, but again they are merely a help in our prayers. I keep a crucifix of Jesus in my bedroom and from time to time I kiss his feet and his hands and his side. Maybe it sounds silly to you and I’m sure it must, but not to me. I feel as though my soul is lifted up to heaven and I’m actually kissing Jesus’ feet.

I hope this has explained some of our beliefs and why we do what we do. So much is not understood by our Protestant brothers and sisters due to lack of knowledge or understanding, but if you ask questions of Catholics, they will be more then thrilled to explain all of our beliefs and teachings from the early church fathers who started the church itself.

Thanks for all your great explanations and I truly enjoyed this dialogue which was most respectfully discussed.

Blessings and honor to God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit
 
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Who’s to say you can’t make the sign of the cross? Why not. What will the minister say if he sees you do this? It certainly can’t be something bad if you’re showing a sign of respect for the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Just as I feel why can’t I use those expressions which come so naturally out of me because when I hear a non-Catholic say these things, I secretly say them along with them. This in no way is disrespecting or turning our backs on our own particular church or traditions, but just adding a little bit of sweet flavor to our own personal worship of Jesus. Praise God. I am Catholic and washed in the blood of the Lamb!
Amen! Variety is the spice of life;)
 
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