Terrible distortions introduced by "hippie culture"

[Monte_RCMS]

Finally, an acknowledgment of the terrible distortions introduced into Western Civilization, also known as Christianity, owing to “hippie culture”.

lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=587080

Roll Back the Hippie Damage

American Thinker, by Samuel Pennell

Original Article

americanthinker.com/2011/01/roll_back_the_hippie_damage.html

Posted 1/1/2011

We have seen the hippie damage, and we hate it. Conservative America has been witness to the cultural damage and decay perpetrated on it by the left since the 1960s. We have stood back with jaw agape at the horrifying images of the American family disintegrating and drug use soaring, while the liberals nod approvingly, and call it “progress.” This is astonishing. Without further investigation into their motives, you would think that they are simply trying to destroy our culture simply because they are hateful. It makes one wonder.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

Thanks! I put this up on my FB page. Society has gone downhill since the pot-smoking protester commie-loving secular humanists started trying to run things.

 

[edwest2]

It was amazing to see it happen. At the time, I watched a guy I knew who was raised similar to myself, adopt the clothes, the speech and the mannerisms of the Hippie. It was as if he had gone to Hippie Boot Camp.

Marriage? “I don’t need no piece of paper to live with my old lady.”

Marijuana? “Nothing wrong with smoking dope. It’s natural.”

Fornication? “They’re just performing natural acts.”

Cultural heritage? Out. Going to Church? Out.

“Hey man. If it feels good, do it.”

God forbid,
Ed

 

[Raskolnikov]

I’m always amused by people who think legalizing marjuana would make the world a better place. They might have a point that while stoned, people wouldn’t engage as much in war and violence. They also wouldn’t do much of anything else. Nothing productive would ever get done in a world where everyone is stoned. In fact, come to think of it, marijuana use is most widespread among the least productive and most violent segments of society. The argument always goes, ‘well, alcohol is legal, and it causes far more damage than pot, ergo, pot should be legal.’ I may be the first college student in history to suggest it, but that sounds more like an argument for why alcohol should be illegal than one for why marijuana shouldn’t.

Of course, also among the most devastating contributions of the hippie movement was the tie-dye shirt. The ugliest article of clothing ever produced, imho.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

I’m always amused by people who think legalizing marjuana would make the world a better place. They might have a point that while stoned, people wouldn’t engage as much in war and violence. They also wouldn’t do much of anything else. Nothing productive would ever get done in a world where everyone is stoned. In fact, come to think of it, marijuana use is most widespread among the least productive and most violent segments of society. The argument always goes, ‘well, alcohol is legal, and it causes far more damage than pot, ergo, pot should be legal.’ I may be the first college student in history to suggest it, but that sounds more like an argument for why alcohol should be illegal than one for why marijuana shouldn’t.

Of course, also among the most devastating contributions of the hippie movement was the tie-dye shirt. The ugliest article of clothing ever produced, imho.

Pretty sure the person who invented it was stoned at the time.



Everyone who is for drug legalization says that it is less harmful than alcohol, but how do they know that? Not enough people are using it on a daily basis for the sampling to be meaningful. If we legalized pot and other drugs, THEN we’d find out what damages would happen, only the damage would be done. Stupid illogical argument.

 

[edwest2]

Pretty sure the person who invented it was stoned at the time.



Everyone who is for drug legalization says that it is less harmful than alcohol, but how do they know that? Not enough people are using it on a daily basis for the sampling to be meaningful. If we legalized pot and other drugs, THEN we’d find out what damages would happen, only the damage would be done. Stupid illogical argument.

A few years back in California, the organizers of the yearly Hippie Parade were told that store owners did not want them urinating in doorways or vomiting anymore. So they suggested they hold the parade in a local park. The organizer of the parade said, “You think we’re a bunch of freaks?” To which, I thought, Uh, yeah. Freak was an alternate word for Hippie at the time.

Peace,
Ed

 

[Monte_RCMS]

If smoking tobacco is bad for you, then why is smoking marijuana good for you?

 

[genevievelives]

Finally, an acknowledgment of the terrible distortions introduced into Western Civilization, also known as Christianity, owing to “hippie culture”.

lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=587080

Roll Back the Hippie Damage

American Thinker, by Samuel Pennell

Original Article

americanthinker.com/2011/01/roll_back_the_hippie_damage.html

Posted 1/1/2011

We have seen the hippie damage, and we hate it. Conservative America has been witness to the cultural damage and decay perpetrated on it by the left since the 1960s. We have stood back with jaw agape at the horrifying images of the American family disintegrating and drug use soaring, while the liberals nod approvingly, and call it “progress.” This is astonishing. Without further investigation into their motives, you would think that they are simply trying to destroy our culture simply because they are hateful. It makes one wonder.

Yes, of course. Before 1960 there was no such thing as drug addiction. Families were never torn asunder by infidelity, cowardice, divorce. And before the Merry Pranksters arrived circa 1965, there were no beatniks or alternative lifestyles. Sex before marriage had not yet been invented before the despicable, hateful hippies descended upon the upright and righteous human populace. And birth control had not been considered or even imagined even as late as 1959.

O, let’s return to those times. Let’s see how fabulous they truly were once the artifice and hindsight storefront marketing are stripped away. Progress does not equal perfection, Monte RCMS. You can neither change history nor sway the unborn future generation. Do what you can to improve your own world this moment. That is the only power you have.

gen

 

[genevievelives]

Pretty sure the person who invented it was stoned at the time.



Everyone who is for drug legalization says that it is less harmful than alcohol, but how do they know that? Not enough people are using it on a daily basis for the sampling to be meaningful. If we legalized pot and other drugs, THEN we’d find out what damages would happen, only the damage would be done. Stupid illogical argument.

A drug is a drug is a drug. Alcohol is a drug, and it causes more disease, debility and death than smoking pot does. At least one in ten Americans is alcoholic. That means s/he cannot control the intake of alcohol and does not know when to stop. The same cannot be true for pot because of the nature of the drug.

I believe you would be quite surprised if you understood how prevalent pot-smoking is in the U.S.

See this from one source to compare causes of death:

drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30

You will see marijuana at the bottom of the list, with zero deaths attributed to the actual smoking of pot.

I do not discount the toll taken in the growth and distribution of the drug. But as for the direct cause and effect, booze tops pot quite handily.

gen

 

[Monte_RCMS]

More on the deterioration of our culture:

jewishworldreview.com/cols/williams060805.asp

What about the decline of the black family? In 1960, only 28 percent of black females between the ages of 15 and 44 were never married. Today, it’s 56 percent. In 1940, the illegitimacy rate among blacks was 19 percent, in 1960, 22 percent, and today, it’s 70 percent. Some argue that the state of the black family is the result of the legacy of slavery, discrimination and poverty. That has to be nonsense. A study of 1880 family structure in Philadelphia shows that three-quarters of black families were nuclear families, comprised of two parents and children. In New York City in 1925, 85 percent of kin-related black households had two parents. In fact, according to Herbert Gutman in “The Black Family in Slavery and Freedom: 1750-1925,” “Five in six children under the age of 6 lived with both parents.” Therefore, if one argues that what we see today is a result of a legacy of slavery, discrimination and poverty, what’s the explanation for stronger black families at a time much closer to slavery — a time of much greater discrimination and of much greater poverty? I think that a good part of the answer is there were no welfare and Great Society programs.

• Walter E. Williams, PhD

econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/

 

[TheRealJuliane]

A drug is a drug is a drug. Alcohol is a drug, and it causes more disease, debility and death than smoking pot does. At least one in ten Americans is alcoholic. That means s/he cannot control the intake of alcohol and does not know when to stop. The same cannot be true for pot because of the nature of the drug.

**I believe you would be quite surprised if you understood how prevalent pot-smoking is in the U.S.
**
See this from one source to compare causes of death:

drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30

You will see marijuana at the bottom of the list, with zero deaths attributed to the actual smoking of pot.

I do not discount the toll taken in the growth and distribution of the drug. But as for the direct cause and effect, booze tops pot quite handily.

gen

Maybe that’s what’s gone wrong with the country!! LOL You can’t say that pot isn’t harmful because right now, it’s illegal. If alcohol was illegal we wouldn’t know about all the harm it causes either, it would be hidden. Because alcohol is legal, we know it’s harmful. Pot is harmful but if we legalize it the effects will be proven to be just as deadly as alcohol.

 

[edwest2]

Yes, of course. Before 1960 there was no such thing as drug addiction. Families were never torn asunder by infidelity, cowardice, divorce. And before the Merry Pranksters arrived circa 1965, there were no beatniks or alternative lifestyles. Sex before marriage had not yet been invented before the despicable, hateful hippies descended upon the upright and righteous human populace. And birth control had not been considered or even imagined even as late as 1959.

O, let’s return to those times. Let’s see how fabulous they truly were once the artifice and hindsight storefront marketing are stripped away. Progress does not equal perfection, Monte RCMS. You can neither change history nor sway the unborn future generation. Do what you can to improve your own world this moment. That is the only power you have.

gen

I saw a generation swayed. We are now paying the price. And aging potheads still want dope to be legal.

Peace,
Ed

 

[edwest2]

A drug is a drug is a drug. Alcohol is a drug, and it causes more disease, debility and death than smoking pot does. At least one in ten Americans is alcoholic. That means s/he cannot control the intake of alcohol and does not know when to stop. The same cannot be true for pot because of the nature of the drug.

I believe you would be quite surprised if you understood how prevalent pot-smoking is in the U.S.

See this from one source to compare causes of death:

drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/30

You will see marijuana at the bottom of the list, with zero deaths attributed to the actual smoking of pot.

I do not discount the toll taken in the growth and distribution of the drug. But as for the direct cause and effect, booze tops pot quite handily.

gen

Contact your local drug rehab center and ask them how many patients they have that are there for marijuana use. Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit.

Peace,
Ed

 

[stringbeanduck]

Maybe that’s what’s gone wrong with the country!! LOL You can’t say that pot isn’t harmful because right now, it’s illegal. If alcohol was illegal we wouldn’t know about all the harm it causes either, it would be hidden. Because alcohol is legal, we know it’s harmful. Pot is harmful but if we legalize it the effects will be proven to be just as deadly as alcohol.

Actually alcohol was legal, made illegal because it was harmful to society, and then made legal again because the harm of it’s illegality out weighed the harm of it being legal.

Contact your local drug rehab center and ask them how many patients they have that are there for marijuana use. Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit.

Peace,
Ed

Be sure to also ask them, how many were referred to the rehab center in lue of jail time by a criminal justice program.

 

[genevievelives]

Maybe that’s what’s gone wrong with the country!! LOL You can’t say that pot isn’t harmful because right now, it’s illegal. If alcohol was illegal we wouldn’t know about all the harm it causes either, it would be hidden. Because alcohol is legal, we know it’s harmful. Pot is harmful but if we legalize it the effects will be proven to be just as deadly as alcohol.

I live in California. Pot is not illegal here, and many folks have license to grow a particular amount of marijuana for personal use.

By MOLLY MONTGOMERY
Published January 4, 2011 in Community, News

*"For those who want to start the New Year with a hit, a new California law makes their plan less risky than before.

The law, SB 1449, which took effect Jan. 1, downgrades the possession of up to an ounce of marijuana from a misdemeanor to an infraction, punishable by a $100 fine.

Violators of the law will no longer be required to show up in court, and the infraction will not appear as part of their criminal record."*

If pot is determined to be of “X” danger factor on a Tuesday and is suddenly made legal on the following Wednesday, said pot will not automatically present a “Y” danger factor. It is a drug, and when ingested by fifty people it will manifest in fifty different reactions. Tetrahydrocannabinol is a drug which offers mild analgesic effects.

What dangers do you perceive in the ingestion of marijuana, aside from the fact that in most states it is still illegal to grow, possess, or use it?

gen

 

[genevievelives]

More on the deterioration of our culture:

jewishworldreview.com/cols/williams060805.asp

What about the decline of the black family? In 1960, only 28 percent of black females between the ages of 15 and 44 were never married. Today, it’s 56 percent …

• Walter E. Williams, PhD

Consider the offers of “marriage” and look again. Is it possible that today’s African-American woman is succeeding in climbing out of the pit of subservience and finding some measure of autonomy which allows her to live and thrive as a stand-alone individual, without dependence on any other person to make her spiritually, emotionally or economically whole?

Marriage is not a panacea. For many it’s a trap. I applaud their spunk, and I pray that they carry their message to less fortunate women of every color. Choice determined by necessity is not choice at all, particularly when children are involved. A family is a family when each member has a sincere desire to be involved, and when each chooses to put the needs of the unit first. Marriage per se is not any accurate measurement of today’s Black family.

gen

 

[Monte_RCMS]

Monte RCMS;7420686:

More on the deterioration of our culture:

jewishworldreview.com/cols/williams060805.asp

What about the decline of the black family? In 1960, only 28 percent of black females between the ages of 15 and 44 were never married. Today, it’s 56 percent …

• Walter E. Williams, PhD

Consider the offers of “marriage” and look again. Is it possible that today’s African-American woman is succeeding in climbing out of the pit of subservience and finding some measure of autonomy which allows her to live and thrive as a stand-alone individual, without dependence on any other person to make her spiritually, emotionally or economically whole?

Marriage is not a panacea. For many it’s a trap. I applaud their spunk, and I pray that they carry their message to less fortunate women of every color. Choice determined by necessity is not choice at all, particularly when children are involved. A family is a family when each member has a sincere desire to be involved, and when each chooses to put the needs of the unit first. Marriage per se is not any accurate measurement of today’s Black family.

gen

The NEXT SENTENCE:

“In 1940, the illegitimacy rate among blacks was 19 percent, in 1960, 22 percent, and today, it’s 70 percent.” - Dr. Willliams

Those unmarried women are having children … children without fathers/ father-figures / role-models.

It is terrible for children to grow up without fathers and without worker - responsible - role-models.

Children need a two-parent family.

But as you say, our government has utterly destroyed the black family.

Sorry, but destruction of intact families … from 19% illegitimacy to 70% illegitimacy is a very bad, terrible, tragic thing.

These single mothers are NOT high salary women with nannies.

These are the poorest of the poor and the children basically grow up by themselves … as feral children.

 

[genevievelives]

genevievelives;7425828:

The NEXT SENTENCE:

“In 1940, the illegitimacy rate among blacks was 19 percent, in 1960, 22 percent, and today, it’s 70 percent.”

• Dr. Willliams

Those unmarried women are having children … children without fathers/ father-figures / role-models.

It is terrible for children to grow up without fathers and without worker - responsible - role-models.

Children need a two-parent family.

But as you say, our government has utterly destroyed the black family.

Sorry, but destruction of intact families … from 19% illegitimacy to 70% illegitimacy is a very bad, terrible, tragic thing.

These single mothers are NOT high salary women with nannies.

These are the poorest of the poor and the children basically grow up by themselves … as feral children.

So, your primary concern is that these fatherless black children are being raised without a “worker-responsible role model”? I submit that most of them have mothers that are working menial jobs, sometimes multiple menial jobs, to try to keep the families going. And they are families, with or without the presence of an adult male. What these kids are missing is the relationship with a loving, demonstrative, involved father, not an awareness of an ATM in the house.

A two-parent family is a luxury anymore; and if one looks behind the veil, one might be distressed to discover that the two parents are very often polarized, bitter and contentious, lacking in the maturity and discipline that marriage demands. Ask yourself: what sort of example does this set for these children?

The fault lies within our culture: many women come from nothing and are seeking safety and belonging; they hook up with men who are more selfish than giving; children are conceived; the disagreements begin, the men have low tolerance for the harping and they move on. The numbers may tip toward African American women, but this scenario is an unfortunate feature of every ethnic culture in this country. Rather than highlight the relationship deficiencies of one particular race, wouldn’t it be more helpful to take the broad view, determine the actual root cause of this problematic cycle, and inject solutions in that target area?

gen

BTW: Nowhere did I say that “the government has utterly destroyed the black family.”

 

[vz71]

The fault lies within our culture:

I believe the entirety of this thread shows this quite well.

At some point, we should look at the statistics and see where and when it all started down this road.
The 60’s stand out well.

 

[edwest2]

Solutions? How about Detroit as an example? Mayor Bing has gone to Church leaders and told them that they can inspire and motivate people, young and old, to do what’s right.

The “marriage doesn’t work anymore” idea is part of Hippie culture, it’s part of radical feminist culture and it’s part of anarchist culture. Tearing the family apart was job one.

The core problem is not “two parents are a luxury” - two are a necessity. If everyone would just wake up and realize that there was a carefully laid out plan to destroy the family, and thereby, society in general, we will get somewhere. There are many married Christians who are supporting their families and home schooling

1960 The Pill approved by the FDA.

1967 The Pill reaches wide use. Most Americans still live on farms and rural areas.

1968 Pope Paul VI publishes Humanae Vitae and warns what will happen if artificial contraception is used, including increased promiscuity. He was right.

1970s Adult bookstores open everwhere selling graphic photos of prostitutes.
Swinger magazines appear offering immoral sexual encounters.
Strip bars and clubs open everywhere.
Abortion on demand is legalized.

1980s No-Fault divorce completes its sweep of the country.

1990s The American Civil Liberties Union wakes up one day and they are shocked - shocked - to see a Nativity in front of a public building. It’s Unconstitutional ! But they offer a deal: “OK. You can have your creche but it’s got to be surrounded by plastic reindeer and candy canes and a plastic Santa. Cause if you don’t, we’re taking you to court!”

The ACLU discovers religious monuments and paintings in other public buildings. Get 'em out or we’ll sue!

So - no one wants to be married anymore? Or marriage is a guarantee of a lifetime of misery? I don’t think so.

For black communities, when the hip-hop/rap/gangsta culture tells young black men that it’s not your responsibility if the girl gets fat - where did they get that message? Anyone?

When sex is downgraded to simple pleasure with zero responsibilty or even knowing the name of the person you had sex with - where did they get that message?

Turn on your TV, go see a Jennifer Aniston movie, or watch Knocked Up, where a young woman has sex with a guy she just met.

Have sex - just sex - and forget about it. It doesn’t mean anything except kicks. That is being heavily marketed right now, heavily marketed. Look at the latest issue of Cosmopolitan - 60 new sex secrets. What? They couldn’t stop at 5,247?

Just stop it. Turn off the media, listen to Catholic radio, read your Bible, go to Church and turn your back on the world. Do what’s right.

Peace,
Ed