Terrified to have children because the government might control them

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TheLittleLady said:
It does not ban the sale or manufacture of ALL incandescent bulbs, just those common household incandescent (and other) bulbs that are not energy-efficient.
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It bans the lightbulb I want to buy. If the government passed a law saying we could only leave our house on Saturday would you say the government didn’t ban you from leaving your house, it just doesn’t let you go out on days other than Saturday?
 
I am not a libertarian. I believe that a good government makes and enforces laws.
 
exnihilo said:
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TheLittleLady:
It does not ban the sale or manufacture of ALL incandescent bulbs, just those common household incandescent (and other) bulbs that are not energy-efficient.
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It bans the lightbulb I want to buy. If the government passed a law saying we could only leave our house on Saturday would you say the government didn’t ban you from leaving your house, it just doesn’t let you go out on days other than Saturday?
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Its a lightbulb–not freedom of movement.

You are taxed on freeways and you must own a car to use one. A lightbulb is a type of technology.

and @TLL posts interested me, so I looked it up. Incandescent bulbs aren’t even banned. That’s a myth. What is banned is the manufacturing of certain very inefficient type. The new ones contain halogen which simply adds energy savings. Basically, the ban was on filling incandescent bulbs with inert gas. There is no visual lumen or spectrum of light color difference.

I would love for the US government to get onboard with international law and ban the chemical food dyes that are banned in other countries that have been tied to cancer and neurological illness. You would still be able to buy Doritos and Kraft Mac’n’Cheese. It wouldn’t be a ban on that. Just a ban on something bad. In the case of the light bulb it’s a ban on using inert gas when something else is readily available and lightyears more efficient. It does double the cost, but the overall savings–since many places still derive their energy from coal-burning plants–is vital.
 
TheLittleLady said:
I am not a libertarian. I believe that a good government makes and enforces laws.
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That is fine. But I don’t know how you think we are the most free when we can’t even buy the lightbulbs some of us want.
Xanthippe_Voorhees said:
Its a lightbulb–not freedom of movement.

You are taxed on freeways and you must own a car to use one. A lightbulb is a type of technology.

and @TLL posts interested me, so I looked it up. Incandescent bulbs aren’t even banned. That’s a myth. What is banned is the manufacturing of certain very inefficient type. The new ones contain halogen which simply adds energy savings. Basically, the ban was on filling incandescent bulbs with inert gas. There is no visual lumen or spectrum of light color difference.
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The kind of lightbulb I want is banned. If the new ones are so great then the government wouldn’t have to force people to buy them. If you want to buy the other kind you are, for now, still free to.
 
exnihilo said:
The kind of lightbulb I want is banned. If the new ones are so great then the government wouldn’t have to force people to buy them. If you want to buy the other kind you are, for now, still free to.
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No one is forcing you to buy anything. Good grief.

The goverment is dictating a manufacturing process.
 
Ah, so no one is forcing heroin users to buy from stree dealers. The government is just dictating a delivery process. We can play around with the meaning of words to do all sorts of neat things.
 
exnihilo said:
Ah, so no one is forcing heroin users to buy from stree dealers. The government is just dictating a delivery process. We can play around with the meaning of words to do all sorts of neat things.
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That makes no sense beause it moves from the legal to illegal. Try again.
 
Satan would love nothing more than to terrify good Christians from having and raising more good Christians. God is the one who is sovereign over life. No one is created who does He does not first will. In marriage, we are called to cooperate with God in being open to children that He wills provided we have no serious reasons for avoiding. Worry over theoretical possibilities is not a serious reason to avoid.
 
When your 3 or 4 year old child says he wants to be a princess because they get to wear neat costumes, you don’t rush him to the doctor for a sex change, as some parents seem to do. Maybe they want attention. No, you buy or make him a cool cowboy costume with buckskin fringe, boots and hat. Or maybe an astronaut or fireman costume. Problem solved.
 
Hopefully you do that. But, if the activists get their way transgenders will be a medical/psychological issue. If you don’t treat your child, which they could say includes giving him hormones and telling him he is a girl, then you could have your kid taken from you and be jailed. That is where we already are really. Parents may need to be willing and able to go on the run to protect their children.
 
exnihilo said:
Hopefully you do that. But, if the activists get their way transgenders will be a medical/psychological issue. If you don’t treat your child, which they could say includes giving him hormones and telling him he is a girl, then you could have your kid taken from you and be jailed. That is where we already are really. Parents may need to be willing and able to go on the run to protect their children.
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Can you show me one case of a child who has married, stable parents who haven’t let a grandparent/aunt/uncle basically raise their kid and that child had no predisposing condition in which the court has stepped in?
 
exnihilo said:
The kind of lightbulb I want is banned.
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As a question, why do you even want to buy an incandescent bulb? The squiggly types have versions that give off the same color as incandescent, last longer, and use less energy.

In addition,there are still incandescent bulbs if you really need them.
 
The incandescents were cheaper. They don’t have mercury. And the light is better and warmer. It is more like bright candlelight. Fluorescent reminds me of institutions like prison or school, which is also prison.
 
You can get the warm light with the new kind if you get the right kind. And they’re cheaper in the long run.
 
I don’t think even the warm light LEDs are the same quality light as an incandescent. I love my LED flashlight, but I use incandescent in the home. As to being cheaper maybe, if they actually lasted as long as they claim, but they don’t.
 
I think @exnihilo and @TheLittleLady have the wrong thread; you want “Terrified to have lightbulbs because the government might control them”
 
Flopfoot said:
we said we would be open to life, but do we really want to start a family in the current political climate?!
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I think you need to get some perspective and consider that God’s call to marriage and family is not for one time or place. And the time and place you find yourself in is one of the most free, prosperous, and healthiest times to be alive.

I think you need to step back and stop watching certain news channels and reading certain websites if they are impacting you so heavily as to skew your perspective to the point of making such statements as above.
 
Have children and educate them on the dangers of socialized medicine and what an imbalance of rights in society causes. We need more people-not less- to combat the horror and pain caused by a tyrannical government.
 
A black woman in 1854 in Alabama would have feared having children because they could be sold. A Chinese couple in 1235 would have feared having children because the Mongols could kill them. I could go on but won’t.

Every day and age on this planet has been full of blood, violence, and things to fear. The difference is that today, we have a 24-hour “news” cycle to bring scary things from far off to our living rooms, phone screens, and office monitors.

Are you familiar with a cognitive bias called the availability heuristic? Availability Heuristic Affecting Your Decision Making

While I’m just as concerned about government or court-mandated medical interventions, they only seem like a common thing to fear because we’re hearing a lot about poor little Alfie.

Where I’ve also been anxiety-prone, I’ve felt better after taking my fears to both a professional therapist and a priest in the confessional. 🙂
 
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