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BrooklynBoy200
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Just curious, what are the restrictions when using the name Yahweh? I’ve read that some Rabbi’s don’t pronounce it out of respect and such, so I was wondering how that relates to Christians.
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Bookcat
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aside from sins against the 2nd commandment…Just curious, what are the restrictions when using the name Yahweh? I’ve read that some Rabbi’s don’t pronounce it out of respect and such, so I was wondering how that relates to Christians.
only in liturgy is the use restricted…we do not use it in Liturgy
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Bookcat
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i will add that typically though Christians use…Lord or Father
(for the Father)
(for the Father)
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Mel_Stones
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Jews as a whole refrain from saying God’s name aloud out of reverence/respect. “Yahweh” is actually a phonetic pronunciation of “YHVH” which is how God’s name appears in writing.
Recently the missal used in my parish changed the psalm response “To you Yahweh I lift up my soul” with the stated reason: out of respect for the Jewish people we will no longer use this term. As for in the proclamation of the readings - my priest wasn’t sure what we are suppose to do when “YHVH” appears.
Recently the missal used in my parish changed the psalm response “To you Yahweh I lift up my soul” with the stated reason: out of respect for the Jewish people we will no longer use this term. As for in the proclamation of the readings - my priest wasn’t sure what we are suppose to do when “YHVH” appears.
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jrgiancola
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I never speak God’s name aloud. I don’t think it’s a sin to do so, but I just won’t do it out of respect for Him.
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Crumpy
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I was reading a Jewish commentary last year and was surprised to see that YHWH is used already in Gen 2. Eve is saying something and refers to God with this name.
That opens a lot of questions about how Eve in this account would have learned that holy name.
In Gen 1, the name for God is Elohim, which refers to the attributes of God as being almighty, creator, and judge. In that creation account, God creates something, judges it, and declares that it is “good.”
YHWH is the word that refers to the merciful aspect of God. So, at the literal level, it is reasonable to ask how Eve learned this name.
IT is characteristic and fundamental that some things the Isrealites did before the Sinai covenant were evil, but God did not punish them for x, y, or z. But, after the covenant, God does hold them accountable, and punishes them.
For example, in Egypt, they must have been familiar with the pagan worship of Egyptian deities. But, we don’t have any evidence of God punishing them for it. But, after the covenant, the first thing they do is worship the Golden Calf and the brand new covenant is broken already.
So, using YHWH before the Sinai covenant was not punished, but there is a command in the covenant not to use the Lord’s name in vain. So, eventually, the YHWH is only spoken by the high priest once per year, and that is inside the Holy of Holies. It is used of necessity when teaching one priest to the next how to say it during the ceremony.
Eventually, over the period of captivity, the authentic pronunciation of the word is lost (recall that Hebrew has no vowels in the alphabet). So, “Yahweh” and “Jehovah” are simply guesses as to how the name is pronounced.
Catholics have used the YahWeh pronunciation but I seem to have heard that Pope Benedict has suppressed the use of this word, for the same reasons as stated above.
The literary convention in the King James bible is to use the word LORD (in all capitals) as a substitute for YHWH.
Modern Jews vary in practice from substituting Adonai (Lord) for YHWH, or backing off further and just saying Hashem (Name), as in Baruch Hashem (Bless the Name).
Scribes must write the tetragrammaton perfectly when preparing a scroll; if not, the scroll portion must be retired, it cannot be corrected.
That opens a lot of questions about how Eve in this account would have learned that holy name.
In Gen 1, the name for God is Elohim, which refers to the attributes of God as being almighty, creator, and judge. In that creation account, God creates something, judges it, and declares that it is “good.”
YHWH is the word that refers to the merciful aspect of God. So, at the literal level, it is reasonable to ask how Eve learned this name.
IT is characteristic and fundamental that some things the Isrealites did before the Sinai covenant were evil, but God did not punish them for x, y, or z. But, after the covenant, God does hold them accountable, and punishes them.
For example, in Egypt, they must have been familiar with the pagan worship of Egyptian deities. But, we don’t have any evidence of God punishing them for it. But, after the covenant, the first thing they do is worship the Golden Calf and the brand new covenant is broken already.
So, using YHWH before the Sinai covenant was not punished, but there is a command in the covenant not to use the Lord’s name in vain. So, eventually, the YHWH is only spoken by the high priest once per year, and that is inside the Holy of Holies. It is used of necessity when teaching one priest to the next how to say it during the ceremony.
Eventually, over the period of captivity, the authentic pronunciation of the word is lost (recall that Hebrew has no vowels in the alphabet). So, “Yahweh” and “Jehovah” are simply guesses as to how the name is pronounced.
Catholics have used the YahWeh pronunciation but I seem to have heard that Pope Benedict has suppressed the use of this word, for the same reasons as stated above.
The literary convention in the King James bible is to use the word LORD (in all capitals) as a substitute for YHWH.
Modern Jews vary in practice from substituting Adonai (Lord) for YHWH, or backing off further and just saying Hashem (Name), as in Baruch Hashem (Bless the Name).
Scribes must write the tetragrammaton perfectly when preparing a scroll; if not, the scroll portion must be retired, it cannot be corrected.
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thistle
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When would you anyway use his name. Normally we would say God (which is not his name).I never speak God’s name aloud. I don’t think it’s a sin to do so, but I just won’t do it out of respect for Him.
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SophiaLector
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Any time you see “LORD” in all caps in the Old Testament, it’s a euphemism for “YHVH” – because the OT was written in Hebrew. Similarly, when you see just the regularly capitalized “Lord” in the OT it is a reference to “Adonai”, another name for God. There are no equivalent words in Aramaic or Greek (the language of the New Testament) so we just use “Lord” or “God”.Jews as a whole refrain from saying God’s name aloud out of reverence/respect. “Yahweh” is actually a phonetic pronunciation of “YHVH” which is how God’s name appears in writing.
Recently the missal used in my parish changed the psalm response “To you Yahweh I lift up my soul” with the stated reason: out of respect for the Jewish people we will no longer use this term. As for in the proclamation of the readings - my priest wasn’t sure what we are suppose to do when “YHVH” appears.
YHVH is not pronounced not only out of reverence, but also because it is essentially an unpronouncable word – and a somewhat nonsenseical one, at that. It literally means something along the lines of “Will-Is-Was”, as in “I am He Who was, is, and will be.”
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