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“Evangelical-style” worship does not belong in the Catholic Church, though (sorry, “charismatics”). It is a definite corruption of our faith. St. Cyril is right.
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Cr8ton
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can you please define evangelical-style worship?
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Rene_Lape
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I think the evangelical “style” is very varied but usually is very emotional - a lot of singing, praising - and at the same time very scripture/sermon oriented. I have not been to many evangelical churches but one huge on in NYC was what I described. Songs led to prayer and praise. The sermon was long and focused on explaining scripture passages. There were calls towards the end for people to come up if they felt led to make a personal commitment to Christ. It wasn’t overly-emotional, just very personal and moving.
The “fundamentalist” approach is - I think (again not much experience with it) - much more instruction-oriented - parsing scripture, trying to clarify it’s relevance to our lives, challenging secularism and science as diversions of the world that can lead you away from Christ.
I have only been once to a “charismatic” church, and find this is the one I have the most difficulty with despite the fact that its focus on “tongues” and “prophecy” are well supported by biblical descriptions of the earliest churches (see 1 Corinthians 14). It is interesting that this is the movement that has really taken off IN the Catholic Church, beginning in 1967. Wikipedia has a 1998 statement by Pope John Paul II to this effect:
At this moment in the Church’s history, the Charismatic Renewal can play a significant role in promoting the much-needed defense of Christian life in societies where secularism and materialism have weakened many people’s ability to respond to the Spirit and to discern God’s loving call. Your contribution to the re-evangelization of society will be made in the first place by personal witness to the indwelling Spirit and by showing forth His presence through works of holiness and solidarity.[11]
The Christian-Quaker worship is simple silence - attentive waiting and trying to feel oneself in the immediate presence of Christ or God’s Spirit - with an expectation that where two or three are gathered, He will be there in the midst, and will open people to his Word so that the community will be nourished and led by Him in a very direct way.
When I say we need to encourage “cracks in the wall” I do not mean the wall that defends the true core of our faith, but the wall of unnecessary and un-Christian fear that keeps many from seeing that millions “outside” the Catholic Church really do have a deep and profound love of Christ and a desire to live according to his will that should make us completely ONE with them.
The “fundamentalist” approach is - I think (again not much experience with it) - much more instruction-oriented - parsing scripture, trying to clarify it’s relevance to our lives, challenging secularism and science as diversions of the world that can lead you away from Christ.
I have only been once to a “charismatic” church, and find this is the one I have the most difficulty with despite the fact that its focus on “tongues” and “prophecy” are well supported by biblical descriptions of the earliest churches (see 1 Corinthians 14). It is interesting that this is the movement that has really taken off IN the Catholic Church, beginning in 1967. Wikipedia has a 1998 statement by Pope John Paul II to this effect:
At this moment in the Church’s history, the Charismatic Renewal can play a significant role in promoting the much-needed defense of Christian life in societies where secularism and materialism have weakened many people’s ability to respond to the Spirit and to discern God’s loving call. Your contribution to the re-evangelization of society will be made in the first place by personal witness to the indwelling Spirit and by showing forth His presence through works of holiness and solidarity.[11]
The Christian-Quaker worship is simple silence - attentive waiting and trying to feel oneself in the immediate presence of Christ or God’s Spirit - with an expectation that where two or three are gathered, He will be there in the midst, and will open people to his Word so that the community will be nourished and led by Him in a very direct way.
When I say we need to encourage “cracks in the wall” I do not mean the wall that defends the true core of our faith, but the wall of unnecessary and un-Christian fear that keeps many from seeing that millions “outside” the Catholic Church really do have a deep and profound love of Christ and a desire to live according to his will that should make us completely ONE with them.
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Cr8ton
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amen! We are all One in Christ and family in the Kingdom of God.I think the evangelical “style” is very varied but usually is very emotional - a lot of singing, praising - and at the same time very scripture/sermon oriented. I have not been to many evangelical churches but one huge on in NYC was what I described. Songs led to prayer and praise. The sermon was long and focused on explaining scripture passages. There were calls towards the end for people to come up if they felt led to make a personal commitment to Christ. It wasn’t overly-emotional, just very personal and moving.
The “fundamentalist” approach is - I think (again not much experience with it) - much more instruction-oriented - parsing scripture, trying to clarify it’s relevance to our lives, challenging secularism and science as diversions of the world that can lead you away from Christ.
I have only been once to a “charismatic” church, and find this is the one I have the most difficulty with despite the fact that its focus on “tongues” and “prophecy” are well supported by biblical descriptions of the earliest churches (see 1 Corinthians 14). It is interesting that this is the movement that has really taken off IN the Catholic Church, beginning in 1967. Wikipedia has a 1998 statement by Pope John Paul II to this effect:
At this moment in the Church’s history, the Charismatic Renewal can play a significant role in promoting the much-needed defense of Christian life in societies where secularism and materialism have weakened many people’s ability to respond to the Spirit and to discern God’s loving call. Your contribution to the re-evangelization of society will be made in the first place by personal witness to the indwelling Spirit and by showing forth His presence through works of holiness and solidarity.[11]
The Christian-Quaker worship is simple silence - attentive waiting and trying to feel oneself in the immediate presence of Christ or God’s Spirit - with an expectation that where two or three are gathered, He will be there in the midst, and will open people to his Word so that the community will be nourished and led by Him in a very direct way.
When I say we need to encourage “cracks in the wall” I do not mean the wall that defends the true core of our faith, but the wall of unnecessary and un-Christian fear that keeps many from seeing that millions “outside” the Catholic Church really do have a deep and profound love of Christ and a desire to live according to his will that should make us completely ONE with them.
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