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By dragging on this relationship with your girlfriend you’re not only wasting your time, but hers as well. You might have missed out on The One by now!! I once had a single professor who had been dating one girl for TEN YEARS! Finally they broke up, but what a waste of time!

If you want to marry her, marry her. If not, break up, and do it soon! Maybe you both need a little “time apart” right now to truly discern your vocations. And the single life IS a vocation too 🙂
 
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CatholicSam:
By dragging on this relationship with your girlfriend you’re not only wasting your time, but hers as well. You might have missed out on The One by now!! I once had a single professor who had been dating one girl for TEN YEARS! Finally they broke up, but what a waste of time!

If you want to marry her, marry her. If not, break up, and do it soon! Maybe you both need a little “time apart” right now to truly discern your vocations. And the single life IS a vocation too 🙂
ITA.

If you can’t bring yourself to buy a ring and set a date, then move on and let this overly patient girl find a man who actually wants to marry her.
 
Montanaman,

I don’t mean to be insensitive but what in the hell are you complaining about? Wa wa wa girlfriend…wa wa wa hate my boss…wa wa wa can’t make any friends…wa wa wa. You need a good slap upside the head my friend!

You live in a region full of poverty, crime and illiteracy - Capitol Hill included - where the gulf between the “have’s” and the “have not’s” is huge! Quit your moaning and go out and help somebody! Maybe your would find value in your life if you were serving God and his children rather than the “job”?! It wouldn’t take you 5 minutes to find a mentoring or literacy program to join. Can you imagine the impact you could have on some child’s life if you just got off you butt and got in the game?! There are people suffering and dying in hospitals right there in your own backyard that have no one to sit with them or bring them the Eucharist. They don’t care if your “prince charming”, they only care that you care.

Praying, Eucharistic Adoration - all good. But how about making your life a prayer; how about adoring Christ in your fellow man?

Get off the couch Montanaman! Open yourself up to people that really really need you.

Peace.
 
Re: my whininess.

I admit, I’m a whiner. But, I’d like to point out that some of it is merited. When you feel like you’re doing your best, and you have no clear alternatives, it gets frustrating. Yes, I know we all get there, but that doesn’t do much to alleviate the stress of the immediate situation. Ergo, the occasional forum blowout.

Re: working for others. I’d love to do it. I’ve felt a tug in that direction for a little while now. Question: when? How? Admittedly, I need to look into that some more, but if I can somehow swing it with my 10-hour-a-day schedule, I’ll do it. I’m hardly “sitting on the couch.”

Actually, that last bit isn’t true. After days like this, the couch is exactly where I’m headed. I had planned to dive into my “Year-long Catholic Reading Project,” but instead, it’s going to be Stephen King’s “Cell.” Well, that and probably a rosary. But after that, beer will flow, my friends. Oh yes, beer will flow…
 
Just a hunch, but I think that if you and Grace end the relationship, you’ll find that you feel better. After all, you’ve been struggling with this romance since before Christmas. You know what you need to do, and you just don’t want to do it. While folks have given you lots of wonderful suggestions, I think my hunch is correct. The right partner is your sanctuary from the world and its cares. She’s not the one.
 
wacky&wonderful:
Just a hunch, but I think that if you and Grace end the relationship, you’ll find that you feel better. After all, you’ve been struggling with this romance since before Christmas. You know what you need to do, and you just don’t want to do it. While folks have given you lots of wonderful suggestions, I think my hunch is correct. The right partner is your sanctuary from the world and its cares. She’s not the one.
I suspect you’re right. Thanks for the advice, but I think on that issue, I’m going to impose a moratorium on internet reflection.
 
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ConcernCatholic:
As far as the marriage proposal goes, I don’t think it is going to work for you. My husband and I were both in previous relationships and we both experienced that sense of dread that you mention. We couldn’t really figure out why we didn’t want to marry our previous partners. There just wasn’t a connection. It is funny, when we got together, there was never any question or doubt as to whether or not we should get married. Our biggest problem with past relationships was the lack of intelectual stimulation and the inability to see eye to eye on things. I always asked how to do you know if it is right. Well, with my husband that question was answered immediately. You just know.
My thoughts and experience exactly. I could have written this paragraph.

This is not the first time Montanaman has posted about his sentiments. She sounds like a lovely girl. But she is not right for Montanaman. When he meets the right girl, he will know it–almost immediately. It will be the “ton of bricks” dropped right on his head.
 
montanaman…Let me give you a serious “Montana” analogy (metaphor, simile, whatever…)…It sounds to me like, in all things personal (work, relationship, home), you are riding a dead horse. You keep throwing the saddle on, riding and riding, swatting it, urging it on…and yet it takes you nowhere because it’s DEAD! Then you get off, put the saddle away, throw out some oats and apples for the horse that doesn’t eat or appreciate what you give it. It can’t, because it’s dead. Then the next day, what do you do? You do the same thing all over again. And guess what? You still don’t get anywhere with that horse because it’s STILL dead. Why are you still expecting the horse to take you somewhere? Time to dismount, montanaman. Get off the dead horse and find a new one that will take you somewhere that will make you happy.

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farmbabe1:
montanaman…Let me give you a serious “Montana” analogy (metaphor, simile, whatever…)…It sounds to me like, in all things personal (work, relationship, home), you are riding a dead horse. You keep throwing the saddle on, riding and riding, swatting it, urging it on…and yet it takes you nowhere because it’s DEAD! Then you get off, put the saddle away, throw out some oats and apples for the horse that doesn’t eat or appreciate what you give it. It can’t, because it’s dead. Then the next day, what do you do? You do the same thing all over again. And guess what? You still don’t get anywhere with that horse because it’s STILL dead. Why are you still expecting the horse to take you somewhere? Time to dismount, montanaman. Get off the dead horse and find a new one that will take you somewhere that will make you happy.

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Hmm…That would definitely explain all the flies…

Yes, I agree with you. The question right now is–where do I go from here? Yesterday’s rant was just one episode, and it helped to get it out. I’m still so stressed out I can barely type right now, but at least the day hasn’t been darkened by despair. I just need to figure out what the next step is, and I don’t want to do anything unnecessarily radical.
 
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montanaman:
I just need to figure out what the next step is, and I don’t want to do anything unnecessarily radical.
Maybe that is the problem…you are afraid to take a risk. You have to do something. It may be scary but in the end you will be much happier. Why can’t you do anything too radical? Do you have children or a wife that have to be taken care of? What is stopping you other than yourself?
 
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Jennifer123:
When I go to adoration, it’s just about being there with God. I don’t force any prayer other than the time spent in gratitude. I bring books but make sure they are “church” related. I read my bible for a while. It’s beneficial just being there, soaking up His greatness. Maybe in time you’ll be inspired to do more, but for me, it’s like a spiritual prescription.
Maybe you shoudl try again but with less expectation. It’s not about us anyway. Just my two cents, good luck.
I agree. Just GO. Just be there. How can you learn to pray before Jesus in adoration if you give up in the effort to be there in the first place??! *It’s not the quality of your prayer that increases your holiness and love for God, it’s the effort you’re putting into it. * That’s something the greatest mystics of the Church knew well. Are you really going to give up now when it’s so hard that you could be growing in holiness by leaps and bounds?? 😉 And I’ll tell you, you (and all of us, for that matter) have two choices: make the effort, or give up. Giving up could possibly mean the loss of your soul. If you’re not striving forward, you’re falling backward. There is no such thing as standing still.

Hmmm… I need to take my own advice. :o The fight against spiritual apathy is lifelong.

Have you read “Dark Night of the Soul” by St. John of the Cross? That might be a read suited to your current frame of mind. My husband was going through something similar to what you’re describing right before we met, and that book really helped him. Get it, take it to Adoration, and see if you can get through a few pages.

Also, consider making a daily act of consecration to Jesus through Mary. Another book, very small and very easy to read, is “The Secret of Mary”, by St. Louis de Montfort. It is that book, and that devotion, that started my husband and I on the path to complete trust in God. Of course, we’re not there yet, but I can tell you that we have more inner peace every day because of our consecration to Mary.

Well, here’s more advice from someone you’ve never met! 😛 I will pray for you.
 
I will second the advice about Dark Night of the Soul. I am reading it right now and really recommend it.

It’s kind of strange how a book that basically describes being stripped of every joy and consolation is actually beautiful and comforting.
 
Hey Montanaman,
You might be my twin… my issues are with career/work and finances though. I can certianly appreciate where you are coming from. I have a great life, a loving wife and the most wonderful 8, soon to be 9 year old son ever, a nice home, food on the table, clothes on my back and a roof over my head. But work challenges can certainly overwhelm and make you forget about all of the great things you do have. Not sure what point I want to make here… sorry… I guess I just wanted you to know you aren’t alone and there are others thinking about you and praying for you.
 
Bubbas Dad:
Hey Montanaman,
You might be my twin… my issues are with career/work and finances though. I can certianly appreciate where you are coming from. I have a great life, a loving wife and the most wonderful 8, soon to be 9 year old son ever, a nice home, food on the table, clothes on my back and a roof over my head. But work challenges can certainly overwhelm and make you forget about all of the great things you do have. Not sure what point I want to make here… sorry… I guess I just wanted you to know you aren’t alone and there are others thinking about you and praying for you.
Thanks, man. I know how it all sounds. “Oh, poor white collar guy. The boss is mean and you got a papercut and you can’t commit to your pretty girlfriend. You’re right, that’s so much worse than working double shifts at the mine removal/septic tank cleaning company. Oooh, oooh…”

Relatively speaking, I know I’ve got it good. I used to paint houses year-round. Let me tell you, there’s nothing quite like chucking 5-gallon drums of paint into the truck on a hot summer day, or trying to cut a straight line on some crown molding while balancing a bucket on your chest, while your boss is telling you the “amusing” story of his latest proctology exam. Or, even better, when the boss’s son begins every morning drive by offering you a puff off his joint and the latest installment of “Why it’s Okay to Cheat On My Wife.”

Somehow, making sure all the items in my Task List have an accurate, updated status doesn’t seem that bad. But then, when the possibility that your future rides on clicking the right item in a combo box, as if the sum of mankind’s development resides in mastering Microsoft software, I tend to get a bit cynical.

Today, I endured a five minute lecture about how AP style is to refrain from using a hyphen after words ending in “ly.”

Sorry, I’m dangerously close to going back to the cranky place.

Anyway, thanks bubbas. I’m glad to know that it’s possible to escape. 😉
 
I fully understand the drama of an aspiring writer, because I also suffer the pangs of the impulse, drive, frustration and utter desire to write, and I do, but I can’t seem to be satisfied with what I am writing so stick to short stories and poetry, and these threads to keep the juices flowing. I have come to a serious realization in my 30 th year.

While in college I studied studio art (painting and design) and journalism. When I actually tried journalism, simply working for a small town newspaper I HATED it. I couldn’t stand the constant misquoting and the pathetic attempt at truth when no matter what, there are many nuances to truth and it changes depending on one person’s version of it. I decided to stick to an intentionally fictional portrayal of reality rather than an accidental, or maliciously intentional, tainted attempt at truth.

Getting back to the my realization, for 12 yrs.I was experiencing life, marriage, the birth of three children, self sacrifice, the depths of despair, death, elation, finding the “magic” in life in unexpected and unplanned pockets of wisdom pleasure or joy. I even had a spiritual adult conversion into the Catholic faith. When I was young, I was much more interested in exploring the dark realities of life. If I had become a career artist and writer, It is more than possible that I would have some deranged work out there, pigeonholing me into the culture of death. I now see this time away from career as a great gift. I have used my talents every day as a homeschool mom and air force wife. I always prayed that I would develop my gifts and talents to be used for HIS glory… but I didn’t exactly realize what I was praying for. I actually wanted glory for myself. I wanted success and praise and was on a search for “truth” that was dark and wanted to linger in the dark alley where the sale of sex and drugs, the darkness of human character showed itself. Not that I wanted to expereince these things for myself, but I wanted to understand them, to understand how a human being could be the polar opposite of myself. Yes, before I experienced life, I would have learned to regret much of what I had published or artwork I had sold. In fact, last year I threw alot of old work out because I have transformed so much as a person since then.

I understand life much more. I can write now, and I’m not focused on my own success, but the glory of the Lord because I understand why I’m here, I better understand both the darkness and the light. I am back to the early days where writing was an exploration and a joy.

My suggestion is to take 2 years to completely STOP writing, thinking about writing or worrying about writing, and especially stop beating yourself up about writing. Work on your relationship with God, do some soul searching about your job and girlfriend. If you can do it go to to a nearby part of the Appalachian trail with a tent and some books that inspire you and take a weekend off, alone in nature with some books. (no tv. radio or laptop) It may sound cheesy, but from your post it seems like you have so much going on that you are overstimulated and overwhelmed and need some time to yourself. Every chance you get for the next year or two, pare your life down to being a man in nature, with nothing but prayer, thoughts and books, even if it is only for a Saturday afternoon, even if it is in Arlington Nat Cemetary, or walking the Mall. You need and deserve time for reflection.
 
Work on your relationship with God first and everything else will fall into place. Ask God to help you make sense of it all, to lead you in your desire to be a writer. You need to start writing again for the pure joy of the art rather than worrying about success. God may be saving your talent to do something much greater than you can imagine, because he has greater plans for you than you have for yourself, I have a strong suspicion that you need personal and spiritual growth before you can have something to share through writing. If you feel like you keep running into a brick wall, maybe you need to look up for awhile instead of straight ahead. There just may be a door through that wall you can’t see because you are too busy trying to go though the way *you *think you should. It is easy for humans to start to think that we need to “go it alone, and make our success in life” but truly it is a working partnership with the Lord. I only know this because I have experienced it for myself, and it has given me overwhelming peace.

It sounds like you are doing a job you hate in a city you don’t want to live in, with a lady you are not truly happy with because you have taken it upon yourself to sacrifice everything for her.

It is a good thing to sacrifice for others, but when embarking on marriage, it is a two way street. You aren’t buying the ring because something is telling you that you aren’t ready to be married yet. Allow yourself some time to relax, pray and do some serious soul searching. Make it a constant prayer that you ask God to lead you. The only peace in this world is through Christ. If you are seeking inner peace and happiness through obtaining a goal, success, material gain, thinking if you only line all your ducks up in a row with a wife, perfect career and home, you won’t find it. Peace can’t be found there, unless you are able to see the hand of God in everything.

You say you have sacrificed yourself for her. I can relate to this because I do the same for my children. One thing that has really helped me is to understand what Mother Theresa did and why. I began to offer up every sacrifice I made for the conversion of sinners, for the conversion of myself and my family. When my children would ask for a drink I would consider that I was giving the least of his people a drink. By loving and caring for my helpless children, I began to realize that I was doing it for Christ. Rather than being so draining the Grace of God filled the emptiness and sustained me.

Life will always feel like a burdon, no matter how successful you are, if you don’t find peace with God first. That can only be found by making a good confession (we all need to do it time to time, I know I do and feel much better afterwords) and receiving the sacraments, through prayer and sacrifice. Once you are able to put God 100% first, you will have all the Grace you need to do all the things that you want to do.

If you don’t believe me, just watch* E True Hollywood story* for a few days. You begin to see a theme of extremely talented, people, successful by the world’s standards, yet far too many are self destructive, depressed, desperate people. Then turn on EWTN and watch some shows about the lives of saints, watch some interviews on “The Journey Home” If you can watch the interviews with Mel Gibson about making “The Passion” you will see that the only difference between both groups of successful people depend solely on their relationship with God.

The only peace in this world comes from Christ. You are unique and beautiful, your dignity comes from God who created you to be so much greater than you could ever dream of our plan for yourself. Your gift with words is not what gives you worth, it is only a gift that God has given you, to be shared. One thing that helped me with this is, I refused to compare myself to others, or other people to each other. Instead, I began to ask myself the question "What is that person trying to do for the Kingdom of God? “Forget my failures and successes, what am I *trying *to do to bring about the kingdom of God?” When you get in the habit of that you begin to look at yourself and fellow human beings through the eyes of God.

You have dignity, worth and purpose without writing or any other talent or success. Once you believe that and you feel the peace of Christ, you will be able to write freely.

I wrote so much here, because I understand at least part of your struggle, and I’m not only wordy but a fast typer.

Glory to God in the Highest and peace to His people on Earth!
Peace to you!🙂
 
Oh, BTW, the reason why I recommended going out and allowing yourself to be alone with God in nature, has to do alot with the reason why ppl are recommending Dark Night of the Soul.

At one point in our marriage we had lost everything financially because the Air Force moved us before we had enough equity in our first home and the market had also declined severely in the location. We were financially careful and responsible people and refused to foreclose or go bankrupt so lost everything financially and after 5 years we have finally recovered to the point where we were before the sale of our home. The stress was indescribable for my husband and myself. We grew in faith and it strengthened our marriage, because we realized that by losing everything we had gained a stronger relationship with God. We depended on him more, prayed more, and it forced us to put material possessions in the proper order with the more important aspects of life. This is also what St. John of the Cross teaches us. In life we are on a constant journey of letting go of the world. It’s painful, but in the end we are left with nothing but Christ and His love and Mercy is the greatest gift of all.
 
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montanaman:
Actually, that last bit isn’t true. After days like this, the couch is exactly where I’m headed. I had planned to dive into my “Year-long Catholic Reading Project,” but instead, it’s going to be Stephen King’s “Cell.” Well, that and probably a rosary. But after that, beer will flow, my friends. Oh yes, beer will flow…
I think you need to hit the couch. You sound seriously burned out. I understand you perfectly. #1, working for a woman is purgatory on earth - and I’m a boss. 😃

#2, maybe your girl isn’t the one. There seems to be a slight undertone of resentment about the things you’ve “done” for her. Life isn’t about a running tally. Feeling this way now is a big red flag.

#3, I agree with the others about getting to Adoration. You meet the nicest people in church.

Good luck to you, hang in there, and pray without ceasing. Well, cease long enough to read “Cell.” I think the book is a disappointment though, Stephen King’s lost his edge. 😉
 
Detroit Sue:
I think you need to hit the couch.
Couch? You mean like, a psychoanalist? I think he just needs to go fishing or something. Maybe a puppy. Definatly single though.
This is fun.
 
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