The 6000 Year Earth

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If ‘several times over’ means 3 or more times. And if there is currently enough water to cover the earth to a depth of 7924 feet then 3 times that amount of water would cover the earth to a depth of 23,772 feet, and 4 times the water would cover the highest mountains 31,696 feet…
Sorry – the water is now at seal level, and that accounts for almost all the water, minus a little bit in Antarctica and Greenland. You would need 29,000 additional feet of water above and beyond what we now have.
 
Don’t Young Earth Creationists believe in Continental Drift or Tektonic plate movement?

If you do. That’s how sea shells got high up in the rockies.
 
Sorry – the water is now at seal level, and that accounts for almost all the water, minus a little bit in Antarctica and Greenland. You would need 29,000 additional feet of water above and beyond what we now have.
Buffalo [above] said that geologists/scientist said that several (I read several as being 3 or more) times the amountof water in all the seas and oceans is currently contained in the earths mantle. Alltogether all the water we know of on and in earth could cover Mount Everest ny several thousand feet.
The question being; is there really enough water on planet earth to cover the highest mountains.
 
Also, the Great Flood explains a lot if you believe in the rapid-decay theory. (The rapid-decay theory is the only theory on the electrical current that explains the magnetic field in the earth’s core that is consistent with all the data.)
Whoever told you that was lying to you. The proposed theory of the rapid decay of the earth’s magnetic field is not supported by the available evidence. We already know that the earth’s magnetic field reverses every so often so any theory that posits only a single direction of change must be wrong. See CD701: Decay of Earth’s magnetic field for more details.

rossum
 
This makes no sense. The water was in the oceans and seas, and over the continents, up to a depth of 29,052 feet. It would just have sat there, since the seas and oceans wre already full.

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Aha… at first glance, perhaps… but you have to think about it. 😛
 
Whoever told you that was lying to you. The proposed theory of the rapid decay of the earth’s magnetic field is not supported by the available evidence. We already know that the earth’s magnetic field reverses every so often so any theory that posits only a single direction of change must be wrong. See CD701: Decay of Earth’s magnetic field for more details.

rossum
That is a very good website.

Thanks.
 
Also, the Great Flood explains a lot if you believe in the rapid-decay theory. (The rapid-decay theory is the only theory on the electrical current that explains the magnetic field in the earth’s core that is consistent with all the data.)
Explain please.

Peace

Tim
 
Then explain how there can be mountains higher then Mt. Everest under our oceans? How is the water being held over them?
Um, perhaps because their bases are on the ocean floor rather than a plateau that is almost 15,000 feet above sea level.

Peace

Tim
 
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The Great Flood is the only logical explaination of how the fossils got so high into the Rockies.
That’s odd. as it’s an explanation not used by any professional geologists I know.
Why would they use it as an explanation. To acknowege the flood is to believe the Word of God and atheists will not go that direction.

For to accept the Word of God is to be held accountable and to recognize that God indeed does exist.

When these scientists who refuse to believe in God can duplicate God by creating something out of nothing, maybe then their arguments will have validity.
 
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Then explain how there can be mountains higher then Mt. Everest under our oceans? How is the water being held over them?
Um, perhaps because their bases are on the ocean floor rather than a plateau that is almost 15,000 feet above sea level.
And if the oceans floors were above water and the existing land below, you would say that very same thing.

I suggest you study to see if these mountains in our oceans are further from earth’s core then Everest. Then maybe you will believe.
 
Buffalo [above] said that geologists/scientist said that several (I read several as being 3 or more) times the amountof water in all the seas and oceans is currently contained in the earths mantle. Alltogether all the water we know of on and in earth could cover Mount Everest ny several thousand feet.
The question being; is there really enough water on planet earth to cover the highest mountains.
Certainly there is enough water to cover all landmass of earth. As I said before, if the earth would even slow to half her rotation, and the icecaps had melted completely, I believe all landmass would be under water.

Yet, the bible does not say anything about days being longer or shorter during the flood. So something else had to occur to cause the entire earth surface to be water. And the answer is the earth moving on her axis.

If we read the story of the flood, water gusted out from the earth as well as from the heavens. The earth was shaken to and from violently. And I believe the landmass that was became completely changed to what we have today.

So we can say the Lord did a little redecorating.
 
How do fossils get into the rocks? Why would whales have died? They can swim.
What does the Word of God say? All things died. The whales would have died because of the violent, turbulent upheavel of landmass or be found a fish out of water once the waters receded.

Common sense and the Word of God.
 
Why would they use it as an explanation. To acknowege the flood is to believe the Word of God and atheists will not go that direction.

For to accept the Word of God is to be held accountable and to recognize that God indeed does exist.

When these scientists who refuse to believe in God can duplicate God by creating something out of nothing, maybe then their arguments will have validity.
One of the lies that some young earth creationists tell is that anyone who opposes them is an atheist. Those other YECs who believe what they say are being mislead by liars. It is a lie because it is false. Here is a quote from the Reverend Adam Sedgewick:…But theories of diluvial gravel, like all other ardent generalizations of an advancing science, must ever be regarded but as shifting hypotheses to be modified by every new fact, till at length they become accordant with all the phenomena of nature.

In retreating where we have advanced too far, there is neither compromise of dignity nor loss of strength; for in doing this, we partake but of the common fortune of every one who enters on a field of investigation like our own…

Bearing upon this difficult question, there is, I think, one great negative conclusion now incontestably established – that the vast masses of diluvial gravel, scattered almost over the surface of the earth, do not belong to one violent and transitory period. It was indeed a most unwarranted conclusion, when we assumed the contemporaneity of all the superficial gravel on the earth. We saw the clearest traces of diluvial action, and we had, in our sacred histories, the record of a general deluge. On this double testimony it was, that we gave a unity to a vast succession of phenomena, not one of which we perfectly comprehended, and under the name diluvium, classed them all together.

To seek the light of physical truth by reasoning of this kind, is, in the language of Bacon, to seek the living among the dead, and will ever end in erroneous induction. Our errors were, however, natural, and of the same kind which lead many excellent observers of a former century to refer all the secondary formations of geology to the Noachian deluge. Having been myself a believer, and, to the best of my power, a propagator of what I now regard as a philosophic heresy, and having more than once been quoted for opinions I do not now maintain, I think it right, as one of my last acts before I quit this Chair, thus publicly to read my recantation.

We ought, indeed, to have paused before we first adopted the diluvian theory, and referred all our old superficial gravel to the action of the Mosaic flood…

Source: Reverend Adam Sedgewick, Professor of Geology, University of Cambridge, 1831
Behind all the Victorian language is a man admitting that his previous beliefs about a single flood were wrong. Adam Sedgewick was not an atheist. He was speaking before Darwin published. He admitted that the single large flood interpretation of the geological evidence is wrong.

To associate modern geology with atheism is a gross insult to those geologists who are Christian, Jewish or from any other theistic religion and contrary to the advice of Thomas Aquinas:In discussing questions of this kind two rules are to be observed, as Augustine teaches. The first is, to hold to the truth of Scripture without wavering. The second is that since Holy Scripture can be explained in a multiplicity of senses, one should adhere to a particular explanation only in such measure as to be ready to abandon it if it be proved with certainty to be false, lest Holy Scripture be exposed to the ridicule of unbelievers, and obstacles be placed to their believing.
By insisting on the literal interpretation of Genesis YECs are placing “obstacles” for people like Adam Sedgewick believing in God. If you tie belief in God inextricably to the Noachic flood, then do not be surprised if an intelligent person takes you at your word and when they see that the geological evidence is against the Flood that they also reject God. It is you who have tied the two together so it is you who are responsible for their possible rejection of God.

Adam Sedgewick was sensible enough to see that a rejection of the literal interpretation of Genesis is not the same as a rejection of God. It is a pity that some YECs cannot do the same.

rossum
 
Whoever told you that was lying to you.
Possibly, but it is more likely that he was simply unaware of the evidence we have today, as this was some years ago (if he was wrong at all, which I am not entirely convinced he was). I suppose I believe in the literacy of Genesis for more spiritual reasons than scientific reasons. (though, yes rossum, I realize not all those who believe in a million-year-old earth are athiests)
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I really know almost nothing about science; plenty of opinion, not enough facts… 😛 I should probably move on to another thread that I know more about, that way I’m not just relying on others’ opinions. (by the way, rossum, how do you know the person who wrote that article wasn’t lying?)
Anyway, I think it’s more important to believe in the Creation, than the details of how He created.
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One of the lies that some young earth creationists tell is that anyone who opposes them is an atheist. Those other YECs who believe what they say are being mislead by liars. It is a lie because it is false. Here is a quote from the Reverend Adam Sedgewick:
A man can believe what God says or he can believe what another man says. I choose to believe every word of the bible as taught to me though the ministry of the Holy Spirit.
 
To associate modern geology with atheism is a gross insult to those geologists who are Christian, Jewish or from any other theistic religion and contrary to the advice of Thomas Aquinas
To say the Word of God is wrong is atheism.

All it takes is believing the lie, lies of the enemy. Look what happened to manking because of the sin of one man.

God told Adam that in the day he ate the forbidden fruit he would die.

The devil told Adam he would not die, but his eyes would be open. He would be like God, be a god.

Adam ate the fruit and died.

We can either believe God or the devil. A man cannot sup at the table of the Lord and the table of his enemy. He will love one and hate the other.
 
Possibly, but it is more likely that he was simply unaware of the evidence we have today, as this was some years ago (if he was wrong at all, which I am not entirely convinced he was). I suppose I believe in the literacy of Genesis for more spiritual reasons than scientific reasons. (though, yes rossum, I realize not all those who believe in a million-year-old earth are athiests)
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I really know almost nothing about science; plenty of opinion, not enough facts… 😛 I should probably move on to another thread that I know more about, that way I’m not just relying on others’ opinions. (by the way, rossum, how do you know the person who wrote that article wasn’t lying?)
Anyway, I think it’s more important to believe in the Creation, than the details of how He created.
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Just remember, if a YEC states something it is a lie, if a scientist states something it is always the truth. NOT.😦
 
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