The 6000 Year Earth

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DonLeon said:
Yes, humans are animals (in more ways than one…), but according to Buddhism there is a difference between the two legged variety (man alone) and the four legged variety.
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There are a lot less differences between humans and animals in Buddhism that there are in Christianity. Nothing has a soul, so there is no difference between the two in terms of a soul. Both animals and humans may be part of the same life-continuum. Any animal that you see may have been your parent or your child in some previous life.

Life is not confined to earth, the Buddhist scriptures assume the presence of life on other planets orbiting other stars.

Kangaroos have two legs 🙂
To understand Buddhist theology you should read up on it (although , truly, I find it very confusing).
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There are a lot of different Buddhist theologies out there. Theravada is different from Madhyamika is different from Pure Land. The Theravada is probably the simplest to start with. Dharma theory is relatively easy to follow; Mahayana philosophy can get very abstruse indeed.

rossum
 
rossum said:
There are a lot less differences between humans and animals in Buddhism that there are in Christianity. Nothing has a soul, so there is no difference between the two in terms of a soul. Both animals and humans may be part of the same life-continuum. Any animal that you see may have been your parent or your child in some previous life.

Life is not confined to earth, the Buddhist scriptures assume the presence of life on other planets orbiting other stars.

Kangaroos have two legs 🙂

There are a lot of different Buddhist theologies out there. Theravada is different from Madhyamika is different from Pure Land. The Theravada is probably the simplest to start with. Dharma theory is relatively easy to follow; Mahayana philosophy can get very abstruse indeed.

rossum
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May I ask which school of Buddhism you follow? I have read the Theraveda and the Madhyamika with a bit of confusion. I had started Mahayana but gave it up. I gues I am not that intelligent to understand it. I had also tried once to learn Zen.

PAX DOMINI

Shalom Aleichem
 
StAnastasia said:
Of course there is a biological difference. And perhaps on this account of metempsychosis I m thinking more Hindu than Buddhist theology. It seems incoherent that a failed human existence could lead to reincarnation in crocodilian form, or grasshopper.
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I agree with you…I’m staying with Christianity, I truly believe our God and Saviour, Jesus Christ.

PAX DOMINI

Shalom Aleichem
 
heiscominginthe said:
Let us examine preflood man. Man prior to the flood lived to be roughly around 900 years. We must ask ourselves what could cause man to live so long. …That is why no one believed Noah when he said it was going to rain. At that time, the earth was watered by a mist.
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If I may bring this thread back to the neighborhood of the original posting, I’ve been puzzled as to why God would have allowed Adam, Seth, Enoch, Methuselah, and other good patriarchs to perish in the flood. Most of these guys lived eight or nine hundred years, and the flood came in year 601 or thereabouts, and they didn’t get onto the ark. Any suggestions?

StAnastasia
 
If I may bring this thread back to the neighborhood of the original posting, I’ve been puzzled as to why God would have allowed Adam, Seth, Enoch, Methuselah, and other good patriarchs to perish in the flood. Most of these guys lived eight or nine hundred years, and the flood came in year 601 or thereabouts, and they didn’t get onto the ark. Any suggestions?
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StAnastasia
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If you read your bible, it tells you who died before the flood and Adam indeed was dead.

The bible also tells us that God regreted making man and would have destroyed man completely if not for Noah. The rest were destroyed because there was no good in them, their every thought had become evil.
 
Did you ever stop to think that evolution is a true fact and that it was/is under God’s control and a part of His plan? Creationism is fine, but we finite human beings absolutely DO NOT KNOW the mind and plans of God and it is futile to try to find out or even try to direct Him to our way of thinking. Too many of we ignorant humans try to tell God what we
think He is telling us and then tell Him what to do the way WE want it! WAKE UP!!!
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PAX DOMINI
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Shalom Aleichem
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It is the enemy of God that wants man to believe that he is human and cannot comprehend the truths of God. God is always willing to reveal himself to those who truly seek him. God gives man his Word, man doubts it and dies.
 
heiscominginthe said:
It is the enemy of God that wants man to believe that he is human and cannot comprehend the truths of God. God is always willing to reveal himself to those who truly seek him. God gives man his Word, man doubts it and dies.
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Gee- no wonder so many people are turning atheist! If i was undecided as far as religion or belief goes comments like these would push me toward unbelief. No matter what Fundamentalists believe their narrowness and literalistic view of scripture has created more atheists& agnostics in the last ten years than all the communists in the world!
 
heiscominginthe said:
If you read your bible, it tells you who died before the flood and Adam indeed was dead.
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The Flood came in the six hundredth year (Genesis 8:13; it was dried up in the first month of the six hundred first year). Adam and the other guys lived eight or nine hundred yea. Since all flesh died that was not on board the ark, I can only conclude that Adam and Methuselah the other dudes were stowaways on Noah’s Ark. Perhaps I’m missing a crucial verse…

StAnastasia
 
DonLeon said:
May I ask which school of Buddhism you follow?
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My practice is Theravada with some Zen techniques thrown in. My theory is Madhyamika. I have in the past tried a few Vajrayana (Tibetan) techniques but I did not find them useful - I am not very good at visualisation.
I have read the Theraveda and the Madhyamika with a bit of confusion. I had started Mahayana but gave it up. I gues I am not that intelligent to understand it. I had also tried once to learn Zen.
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Zen is very easy to learn: “Sit and breathe” or “Walk and breathe”. Doing it correctly is a lot more difficult.

rossum
 
heiscominginthe said:
No man cometh unto the Father, but through the Son.
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Why should I want to follow a God such as yours whose saving power is so limited?

Does your God lack the power to save those who have never heard of the Son, such as pre-Columbian Americans or unborn children? Is your God’s saving power limited by the speed at which Christian missionaries can travel? Why would I want to follow such a powerless God?

All of which is irrelevant to your false claim that Jews, for example, are atheists because they reject the New Testament. It is possible that they are unsaved, but that does not make them atheists. “Not everyone who calls me ‘Lord. Lord’…” There will be theists as well as atheists in Hell.

Why is it so difficult for you to apologise for making a mistake? You are human, and humans make mistakes. Is your pride so unbending that you cannot acknowledge your own error? Are you perhaps in danger of being like the Pharisee praying at the front of the Temple: “Lord I thank you that I am not like other men…”

Is your action in this really the best way you can think of to witness for Christ? Was Jesus prideful or humble? Is your action in refusing to apologise for your obvious error prideful or humble? Jews are not Christian, they may even not be saved, but you are in error to say that they are atheists.

rossum
 
rossum said:
Why should I want to follow a God such as yours whose saving power is so limited?

Does your God lack the power to save those who have never heard of the Son, such as pre-Columbian Americans or unborn children? Is your God’s saving power limited by the speed at which Christian missionaries can travel? Why would I want to follow such a powerless God?

rossum
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His saving power extends to every person who ever lived, through all the future times to the end of time and backwards in time to every person including Adam.
Because He freely offered the ultimate sacrifice that could ever be offered, (God laid down His very own life to save His friends), everyone then, will be offered that same gift of Life, all one has to do is want it; but then not everyone does want Life, they may hate life, hate themselves, and wish for death. Such is reality as a free creature. …Just thought I’d mention it.
 
Thing said:
His saving power extends to every person who ever lived, through all the future times to the end of time and backwards in time to every person including Adam.
Because He freely offered the ultimate sacrifice that could ever be offered, (God laid down His very own life to save His friends), everyone then, will be offered that same gift of Life, all one has to do is want it; but then not everyone does want Life, they may hate life, hate themselves, and wish for death. Such is reality as a free creature. …Just thought I’d mention it.
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It is not the Christian God that I am talking about, but the narrowly defined and limited God that heiscominginthe seems to want to put in His place.

rossum
 
StAnastasia said:
The Flood came in the six hundredth year (Genesis 8:13; it was dried up in the first month of the six hundred first year). Adam and the other guys lived eight or nine hundred yea. Since all flesh died that was not on board the ark, I can only conclude that Adam and Methuselah the other dudes were stowaways on Noah’s Ark. Perhaps I’m missing a crucial verse…

StAnastasia
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How long do you think a genetically pure man could live?
 
buffalo said:
How long do you think a genetically pure man could live?
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I don’t know about “genetic purity” (is that a term from eugenics?),but apoptosis seems to hold Homo sapiens at a life span of 120 years or so. In any case, if we can trust scripture, Adam and his progeny seem to have lived through Noah’s flood.
 
StAnastasia said:
I don’t know about “genetic purity” (is that a term from eugenics?),but apoptosis seems to hold Homo sapiens at a life span of 120 years or so. In any case, if we can trust scripture, Adam and his progeny seem to have lived through Noah’s flood.
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Apoptosis holds it currently at 120. Before the flood Adam and kids long lives were common.
 
buffalo said:
Apoptosis holds it currently at 120. Before the flood Adam and kids long lives were common.
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I don’t know that there is any evidence of that. I just know that if we interpret the Bible literally, the Ark held more than Noah and his seven family members. Adam and Methuselah and Enoch and the others were on board as well, and were either simply not mentioned in either flood account, or were stowaways.
 
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