The 6000 Year Earth

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Charles_Darwin said:
Oh and this is more lies, thats not what the list said. Typical creationist, either uneducated or a lier.
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I bet you are gullible enough to believe the movie the De Vinci Code is real? Most atheists would rather believe such garbage then to believe the Word of God. For to believe the Word of God is to be held accountable to it and be redeemed.

So the love of sin is greater than the love of God. I don’t care who claims God does not exist, they are lying only to themselves. DEEP DOWN INSIDE themselves, they know God is real.

To pretend there is not a God means when a man dies, he just ceases to exist and not go to hell.

Yet, pretend all you want, cause the moment God calls for your soul, you will know that God is real and you butt is deep do do.
 
Charles_Darwin said:
There is no such thing as macro evolution, if you mean evolution then they could, for nothing is absolute. However in practice the chances are zero due to the overwhelming evidence that supports evolution.
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Really now. Even talkorigins would disagree with you.

and the dictionary too:

mac⋅ro⋅ev⋅o⋅lu⋅tion

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URL] Show IPA –noun Biology. major evolutionary transition from one type of organism to another occurring at the level of the species and higher taxa.
 
avflf said:
So if one is a creationist he either uneducated or a what? I’m sure you meant L-I-A-R
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Yep 🙂 if one actually believes in creation science he is uneducated. The ones that are educated dont actually believe it, they are L-I-A-R-S :). PS is a typo is all you have to go on… 😃
 
Erchomai_Kyrios said:
Hi Charles, I’ve read your book, The Origin of the spiecies, a.k.a Dead science & Darwin pushing up Daisies together. 😉
In the spirit of D Day, remembering our soldiers who gave the ultimate sacrifice for their country in order to defeat Hitler, I thought I’d create a little fill in the blanks logic puzzle.

Even if the list was of 100 A__ and they all rejected B that would STILL be a miniscule amount. And even if __ B___ was falsified that would still DO NOTHING to support C_.

Let A = human right advocates
Let B = Hitler’s Nazi ideology
Let C = Compassion & Democracy

Even if the list was of 100 human right advocates and they all rejected Hitler’s Nazi ideology that would STILL be a miniscule amount. (So statement #1 is true)
And even if Hitler’s Nazi ideology was falsified that would still DO NOTHING to support Compassion & Democracy. Statement #2 therefore remains unproven. Case in point: In a multiple choice world the elimination of 1 factor as false leaves us with 1 less contender for the truth. If you get down to 2 and 1 is eliminated what remains must be true. Most things in this world, especially in science, really do come down to multiple choice and the elimination of theories in order to pursue the truth in what remains.

May the Lord of truth help you in your search for truth, Erchomai Kyrios 🙂
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LOL sorry thats not how science works. If you eliminate evolution you STILL have to produce evidence for creationism, and there is NONE!
 
heiscominginthe said:
I bet you are gullible enough to believe the movie the De Vinci Code is real? Most atheists would rather believe such garbage then to believe the Word of God. For to believe the Word of God is to be held accountable to it and be redeemed.

So the love of sin is greater than the love of God. I don’t care who claims God does not exist, they are lying only to themselves. DEEP DOWN INSIDE themselves, they know God is real.

To pretend there is not a God means when a man dies, he just ceases to exist and not go to hell.

Yet, pretend all you want, cause the moment God calls for your soul, you will know that God is real and you butt is deep do do.
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ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz more magic man is going to spank me threats. 🤷
 
buffalo said:
Really now. Even talkorigins would disagree with you.

and the dictionary too:

mac⋅ro⋅ev⋅o⋅lu⋅tion

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n or, especially Brit., -ee-vuh-] [URL='http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html']cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif[/URL] Show IPA –noun Biology. major evolutionary transition from one type of organism to another occurring at the level of the species and higher taxa.

Ok let me rephrase. Macro-evolution IS evolution.
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All this word definitions prove nothing!

God being active in ones life does.

God is still the same yesterday, today and tomorrow regardless of time.

6,000 years means absolutely nothing when faith in God is involved.

It is just a means for some to entertain themselves with argument while the true meaning of faith in God is sidestepped.

Yes, it is good to wonder about God’s mysteries but nothing to keep us out of heaven.

Blessing’s, AJ
 
The onus of proof lies with the evolutionist , not with the Bible believing Christian.

Belief or non-belief is a Decision taken by the will and ratified by one’s daily life.

Hence - To those who believe, no explanation {evidence ] is necessary

and to those who don’t believe, no explanation [evidence] is possible
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However Mr. Hitler was of the opinion that if you repeat a lie often enough people will eventually believe it. That might account for why we are daily bombarded with new ’ discoveries ’ - IDA , more bones somewhere else , a new statement by a evolutionary guru. a cat that can count up to five…
The theory is kept before us constantly by the media , who, apparently have the task of re-educating the masses .
 
matahari said:
The onus of proof lies with the evolutionist , not with the Bible believing Christian.

Belief or non-belief is a Decision taken by the will and ratified by one’s daily life.

Hence - To those who believe, no explanation {evidence ] is necessary

and to those who don’t believe, no explanation [evidence] is possible
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However Mr. Hitler was of the opinion that if you repeat a lie often enough people will eventually believe it. That might account for why we are daily bombarded with new ’ discoveries ’ - IDA , more bones somewhere else , a new statement by a evolutionary guru. a cat that can count up to five…
The theory is kept before us constantly by the media , who, apparently have the task of re-educating the masses .
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True

Blessing’s, AJ
 
The real problem with creation sciece is that it’s not actually science. /duck There’s no scientific theory to back any of it up. Now many people will say that evolution has many holes in it that science can’t explain…and they’re absolutely correct it does but we’re filling in those holes slowly but surely, will we figure everything out? Probably not. The problem is that lack of knowledge or lack of evidence to support certain aspects for one theory is not evidence in itself for another theory. It just means that there’s a lack of understanding about how something happened. The theory of evolution has held up for 150 years because no one has been able to propose another theory to replace it. There’s mountains of evidence to support the theory but much of it is just ignored by creationists.

Now…intelligent design is being proposed as an alternatve theory but there’s a problem with that. Intelligent design can’t be tested and there is no historical or geological record that supports it. So as it stands, intelligent design is only a hypothosys. In science, unless something can and is tested and the results support the hypothosis then it’s not a theory of anything, it’s a hypothosis.

Alot of people also say that it’s only fair have intelligent design taught along side evolution in science classes. Well, on one side of the coin depending on how you look at it, it could be argued that way. On the other hand, you need to ask yourself why things are in science books in the first place. The reason is because people have tested, written papers about, and retested various aspects of the reality we live in. Gravity is a theory but no one argues against that and talks about how false it is.

Bottom line is intelligent design is faith based because it’s based off the bible and the bible isn’t based on science.
 
j1akey said:
The real problem with creation sciece is that it’s not actually science. /duck There’s no scientific theory to back any of it up. Now many people will say that evolution has many holes in it that science can’t explain…and they’re absolutely correct it does but we’re filling in those holes slowly but surely, will we figure everything out? Probably not. The problem is that lack of knowledge or lack of evidence to support certain aspects for one theory is not evidence in itself for another theory. It just means that there’s a lack of understanding about how something happened. The theory of evolution has held up for 150 years because no one has been able to propose another theory to replace it. There’s mountains of evidence to support the theory but much of it is just ignored by creationists.

Now…intelligent design is being proposed as an alternatve theory but there’s a problem with that. Intelligent design can’t be tested and there is no historical or geological record that supports it. So as it stands, intelligent design is only a hypothosys. In science, unless something can and is tested and the results support the hypothosis then it’s not a theory of anything, it’s a hypothosis.

A lot of people also say that it’s only fair have intelligent design taught along side evolution in science classes. Well, on one side of the coin depending on how you look at it, it could be argued that way. On the other hand, you need to ask yourself why things are in science books in the first place. The reason is because people have tested, written papers about, and retested various aspects of the reality we live in. Gravity is a theory but no one argues against that and talks about how false it is.

Bottom line is intelligent design is faith based because it’s based off the bible and the bible isn’t based on science.
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While i agree with A lot of what you say there are few points i take issue with.

Firstly evolution does not have that many holes, form a naturalists perspective the holes tend to lie in abiogenesis. Also the reason evolution has held up for the last 150 years is NOT “because no one has been able to propose another theory to replace it”. Its because its supported by MOUNTAINS of evidence, nobody has been able to falsify if, and every time we uncover new evidence it directly supports it.

I totally agree with you on ID, its not science.
 
matahari said:
The onus of proof lies with the evolutionist , not with the Bible believing Christian.

Belief or non-belief is a Decision taken by the will and ratified by one’s daily life.

Hence - To those who believe, no explanation {evidence ] is necessary

and to those who don’t believe, no explanation [evidence] is possible
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I think this says it all and shows the blatant intellectual difference between creationist and naturalists.

If you tried to pull that kind of reasoning at any real level of academia you’d be out on your arse before you could say my magic man blesses you.
 
Firstly evolution does not have that many holes, form a naturalists perspective the holes tend to lie in abiogenesis. Also the reason evolution has held up for the last 150 years is NOT “because no one has been able to propose another theory to replace it”. Its because its supported by MOUNTAINS of evidence, nobody has been able to falsify if, and every time we uncover new evidence it directly supports it.
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Well, while I think evolution is pretty rock solid myself the big questions that have yet to be answered are how life began in the first place and finding the missing link when humans first appeared. There are some others as well but those are the big ones. It doesn’t mean we were all “created”, it just means we haven’t figured it out yet.

Also when I say no one has been able to propose another theory to replace it it’s pretty much implied that there’s alot of evidence there to support theory, ifso facto no one has been able to replace it with another theory. 🙂
 
j1akey said:
Well, while I think evolution is pretty rock solid myself the big questions that have yet to be answered are how life began in the first place and finding the missing link when humans first appeared. There are some others as well but those are the big ones. It doesn’t mean we were all “created”, it just means we haven’t figured it out yet.

Also when I say no one has been able to propose another theory to replace it it’s pretty much implied that there’s alot of evidence there to support theory, ifso facto no one has been able to replace it with another theory. 🙂
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How life began is not evolution it’s abiogenesis, and i conceded above there is much we don’t understand about it.

As for the missing links, I’m not sure how up to date you are with the fossil record but we have an abundance of fossils that catalog hominid evolution. The missing links, are in fact, not missing.
 
Charles_Darwin said:
If you tried to pull that kind of reasoning at any real level of academia you’d be out on your arse before you could say my magic man blesses you.
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My post was addressed to articulate people not to ignorant foul mouth
 
Charles_Darwin said:
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As for the missing links, I’m not sure how up to date you are with the fossil record but we have an abundance of fossils that catalog hominid evolution. The missing links, are in fact, not missing.
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And that’s why you lot continue to look for one and hailing any new find as the real one.
 
StAnastasia said:
I take it this is your admission that you cannot name a published “creation scientist” with professional credibility.
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Nope, not at all. What this is about is my getting you to do some work for your own self. As I stated before, unless you go and search it out yourself, you won’t believe anything I tell you.

I run into so many who will argue, but will not seek the truth for themselves. They want me to get all the materials to make the cake, to mix it together, and to bake it. And when it is all done, they still refuse to eat from it, citing they don’t believe it is really a cake.

Yet, if they don’t taste it, how will they ever know?

I suggest you do the work for yourself, seeing the truth with your own eyes as it is revealed to you. Only then will you believe.
 
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The real problem with creation sciece is that it’s not actually science. /duck There’s no scientific theory to back any of it up.
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Come on, open your eyes. What about the many, many discoveries of ancient civilizations spoken of in the bible and uncovered by archeologists. There has been several uncovered, proving that the Word of God is accurate and true. So why would you doubt the story of creation?

I know why, because to believe in God could convert so it is better to pretend God does not exist because it is more fun to sin.

As for scientific theory, I suggest you read the original thread. There is allot of areas in the Word of God that is proven with science. Read the thread, pick out something you want to disprove and do a search on it. You just might surprise youself, but I doubt it. Most will look truth right in the face and choose to not believe it.
 
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