The Absurdity of Atheism

[Charlemagne_III]

You’re the only poster who ever objects to quotes from Pope Francis, everyone else seems to like seeing them .

This is utter nonsense. Show the # for the post where I objected to quotes from Pope Francis. Please be specific about the remark that disagrees with Francis.

YOU REALLY NEED TO FIND ANOTHER JOB IF ALL YOU HAVE TIME FOR IS TO TRY TO PIT THE POPES AGAINST THE CATHOLICS IN THIS FORUM.

You’ve done it time and again. You’ve been told time and again it’s a failed strategy, as if you were denying the authentic Catholicism of posters here. It is a sinister way to evangelize Catholics away from their faith, to falsely tell them they must either agree with their pope or else they must conclude that their pope must be wrong.

Will you ever cure yourself of this foolishness?

 

[Solmyr]

That is, if we extend the concept of mind to include spirit.

Oh, I love to consume “spirit” in some well-distilled John Barleycorn form. And if I would do it in excess, I would be in high “spirits”. These are the only valid meanings of the “spirit” that I am aware of.

The ending of the post above is misleading. The criticism is not on neurophysics, defined as a scientific study of the nervous system, but rather with the previous poster’s understanding that it somehow provides support for the untestable hypothesis that the mind is merely the activity of the brain.

Untestable? Show me a “mind” without a brain, and you will refute the hypothesis. It is always easier to refute any hypothesis than to validate them. You only need one counter example for refutation. No amount of supporting experiment or data will “prove” a hypothesis, they will “only” substantiate it.

 

[Aloysium]

Oh, I love to consume “spirit” in some well-distilled John Barleycorn form. And if I would do it in excess, I would be in high “spirits”. These are the only valid meanings of the “spirit” that I am aware of. Untestable? Show me a “mind” without a brain, and you will refute the hypothesis. It is always easier to refute any hypothesis than to validate them. You only need one counter example for refutation. No amount of supporting experiment or data will “prove” a hypothesis, they will “only” substantiate it.

You did not understand a single thing I wrote.

As to your belief that the brain is the cause of the mind, it has to be restated that this is untestable. It is not science and is as ridiculous as supposing that a computer central processing unit can generate the code by which it will run.

I wouldn’t normally take this attitude but you opened yourself to ridicule with your flippant comments about the spiritual.

 

[inocente]

This is utter nonsense. Show the # for the post where I objected to quotes from Pope Francis. Please be specific about the remark that disagrees with Francis.

YOU REALLY NEED TO FIND ANOTHER JOB IF ALL YOU HAVE TIME FOR IS TO TRY TO PIT THE POPES AGAINST THE CATHOLICS IN THIS FORUM.

You’ve done it time and again. You’ve been told time and again it’s a failed strategy, as if you were denying the authentic Catholicism of posters here. It is a sinister way to evangelize Catholics away from their faith, to falsely tell them they must either agree with their pope or else they must conclude that their pope must be wrong.

Will you ever cure yourself of this foolishness?

I don’t like jumping threads but as you ask, I think the last time I quoted Francis to you was on this thread, where you continued to argue against his instruction.

You currently have a thread where you’ve made around 300 quotes from scientists, yet you object to me making a couple of quotes from your own Pope!

I’m not a Catholic and I agree with Francis. This thread is aimed at atheists, and both the articles I cited are about evangelizing: “Like Jesus who dined with Pharisees and sinners and St. Paul who preached to idol worshippers, true evangelizers build bridges that lead unbelievers into the church, not walls to protect it, Pope Francis said.”

Do you agree with him that your job is to reach out and get atheists into your church? If you disagree with him then please say why. But either way, the quotes on-topic, the Pope’s words are pertinent, this forum is about free-speech, and so you objecting to hearing what your own Pope, the successor of St Peter, has to say is beyond unfathomable!!!

Calm down, you’ll do yourself a mischief . For reference, here are the articles again:

ncronline.org/blogs/francis-chronicles/pope-christianity-means-giving-witness-christ-every-day
catholicnews.com/services/englishnews/2013/pope-says-evangelists-build-bridges-not-walls.cfm

 

[tonyrey]

This thread is aimed at atheists.

Not true! The absurdity of atheism has nothing to do with individual atheists. It is a common error to introduce personalities instead of confining oneself to an objective discussion of a metaphysical theory.

 

[Nixbits]

Which ‘metaphysical theory’ is it that is the topic of debate in this thread?

 

[tonyrey]

You did not understand a single thing I wrote.

As to your belief that the brain is the cause of the mind, it has to be restated that this is untestable. It is not science and is as ridiculous as supposing that a computer central processing unit can generate the code by which it will run.

I wouldn’t normally take this attitude but you opened yourself to ridicule with your flippant comments about the spiritual.

Indeed. Reputable scientists would never make such an assertion because they know they are trespassing into metaphysics which is beyond their scope.

 

[tonyrey]

Which ‘metaphysical theory’ is it that is the topic of debate in this thread?

Atheism - which is the theory that there is no God or gods.