The Alien Phenomina

[friardchips]

If, and I say “if” a person has experienced anything abnormal in sleep, then you can bet it is not aliens, but the devil. The devil can appear as an angel of light. If people suffer burn marks then this also can be devilry. Anything like hypnosis and all these other things only go to confuse matters. I would take to praying the Rosary and then all this speculation will be needless. You will soon discover the truth. it is whether you want to know the truth though. Maybe people are happy living in fantasy worlds. Fantasy worlds are harmless only as long as you know they are and they don’t harm you or others - they stay in the genre of fantasy in your world - but when illusion brings the fear factor into your life and are the cause of further problems then be sure the devil is in there and a good remedy is the Holy Rosary.

 

[edwest2]

Radiation burns cannot be faked and are dangerous. However, I have seen only one credible account in years of study that showed the source of the radiation burns was not aliens, but an unknown aircraft spotted by two women. Otherwise, supporting documents have not been published as far as I know.

Ed

 

[friardchips]

Radiation burns cannot be faked and are dangerous. However, I have seen only one credible account in years of study that showed the source of the radiation burns was not aliens, but an unknown aircraft spotted by two women. Otherwise, supporting documents have not been published as far as I know.

Ed

Unknown aircraft are going to be unknown because they are probably intelligence level military. Before the Blackbird spy-plane came into public knowledge, it had to undergo tests, and yet I’m pretty sure the odd person might have spotted one on occasion. Also, there was a plane that could hover - I can’t remember the name - but when it was released that this plane could do this I immediately knew certain ‘alien’ reports were because of this aircraft. Also, drones must have been tested at some point, and it is possible that these were also seen. Point being, that military grade, erm…air vehicles (?!) are not going to be publicised because they are meant to be secret. Now whether radiation can come from these things is another matter. But radiation can happen for all sorts of reasons. Also, we know that the sun, light, can cause optical illusions. If light is bouncing of an impossibly fast moving object in the air then it would look phenomenal. Aliens, in terms of E.T, are not real. The first person who started all this was H.G Wells. And this kind of distraction is great for politicians because, a bit like drugs, it distracts people from policies and laws that are concerned with down-to-earth everyday issues and which can then be discreetly passed right under the public’s noses without notice.

 

[edwest2]

Interesting perspective. I have read the authoritative books that spoke about and showed various photos of natural aerial phenomena that might be confused with solid unknown aircraft. Many drones have been tested, and many types of secret aircraft, like the A-12, SR-71 and U-2 which was painted so as to not reflect light since its mission was to fly over ‘denied airspace.’ I mean, if the average US citizen could spot one, the trained Soviet observer could spot one. As it turned out, the U-2 appeared on Soviet radars. I don’t know of any aircraft that could hover except for the British Harrier which only used this capability to land and take off.

There are many reports from trained observers that saw something not moving at high speeds and the shape was usually circular and either shiny or dull metallic silver or grey in color.

Ed

 

[friardchips]

Interesting perspective. I have read the authoritative books that spoke about and showed various photos of natural aerial phenomena that might be confused with solid unknown aircraft. Many drones have been tested, and many types of secret aircraft, like the A-12, SR-71 and U-2 which was painted so as to not reflect light since its mission was to fly over ‘denied airspace.’** I mean, if the average US citizen could spot one, the trained Soviet observer could spot one**. As it turned out, the U-2 appeared on Soviet radars. I don’t know of any aircraft that could hover except for the British Harrier which only used this capability to land and take off.

Maybe the pilot had to get home for dinner in time so he took a quicker route lower to the ground?! Or had to get home early for the daughter’s school play! Started a new cult in the meantime. If the Soviet’s spotted them then their reflective paint doesn’t always work anyway.

I thought there was a plane that could hover but maybe there wasn’t. It might have been a helicopter that could hover for unusual amounts of time. I know there was something ages ago but can’t remember.

There are many reports from trained observers that saw something not moving at high speeds and the shape was usually circular and either shiny or dull metallic silver or grey in color.

Okay, though this is putting all of one’s trust in ‘trained observers’ who might get paid for UFO sightings or have a mass following.

Thing is, aliens would have better things to do than hang around in desert areas looking at the sand. There must be hotter and more interesting places they can spend their vacations. Imagine they came to Britain, or Scotland, they’d not bother coming back. I can believe one sighting for that reason - they came and went - but if they appear more than once then it is simply not likely.

The thing is, I am sceptical also because I know the degree to which photos can be manipulated from my knowledge of Adobe products etc…

Ultimately, if observers did see round floating objects, then either the military have decades of technology on us before we catch up or people didn’t see these things. Circles are not particularly aero-dynamic. Even with ‘alien’ technology, this would still be based upon universal mathematical theorum.

 

[edwest2]

Maybe the pilot had to get home for dinner in time so he took a quicker route lower to the ground?! Or had to get home early for the daughter’s school play! Started a new cult in the meantime. If the Soviet’s spotted them then their reflective paint doesn’t always work anyway.

I thought there was a plane that could hover but maybe there wasn’t. It might have been a helicopter that could hover for unusual amounts of time. I know there was something ages ago but can’t remember.

Okay, though this is putting all of one’s trust in ‘trained observers’ who might get paid for UFO sightings or have a mass following.

Thing is, aliens would have better things to do than hang around in desert areas looking at the sand. There must be hotter and more interesting places they can spend their vacations. Imagine they came to Britain, or Scotland, they’d not bother coming back. I can believe one sighting for that reason - they came and went - but if they appear more than once then it is simply not likely.

The thing is, I am sceptical also because I know the degree to which photos can be manipulated from my knowledge of Adobe products etc…

Ultimately, if observers did see round floating objects, then either the military have decades of technology on us before we catch up or people didn’t see these things. Circles are not particularly aero-dynamic. Even with ‘alien’ technology, this would still be based upon universal mathematical theorum.

Circular aircraft are very aerodynamic. But they are not called that in in the literature. Instead, in my research I have found: low aspect ratio aircraft, circular wing aircraft and discplane.

Photos were manipulated long before Photoshop.

The disc aircraft was designed and patented in 1938. It was later improved upon and those involved in final construction were captured by at least two technical intelligence teams in 1945. In the US, the prime military objective was driven by a single idea: “To avoid technological surprise.” Later, it was admitted that the secondary goal was “to create technological surprise.” If our enemies believed it was all nonsense or aliens then the public would believe it. That way, a totally covert type of aircraft would fly for decades, be seen by millions of people, and officially be brushed off as nonsense.

Ed

 

[friardchips]

Circular aircraft are very aerodynamic. But they are not called that in in the literature. Instead, in my research I have found: low aspect ratio aircraft, circular wing aircraft and discplane.

Photos were manipulated long before Photoshop.

The disc aircraft was designed and patented in 1938. It was later improved upon and those involved in final construction were captured by at least two technical intelligence teams in 1945. In the US, the prime military objective was driven by a single idea: “To avoid technological surprise.” Later, it was admitted that the secondary goal was “to create technological surprise.” If our enemies believed it was all nonsense or aliens then the public would believe it. That way, a totally covert type of aircraft would fly for decades, be seen by millions of people, and officially be brushed off as nonsense.

Ed

Sounds fair enough; that flies!

 

[mikekle]

Im not sure on the person, but there was a study done by someone associated with the catholic faith, to compare alien abductions and demonic activities, they are very similar, in almost every single way. I believe most of these UFOs people are reporting today are nothing more than demons, masquerading as something else, in an attempt to draw more people away from God.

I read over the MUFON and NUFORC reports fairly regularly, it appeared to me, most of these sighting, people would see a strange craft, doing things normal man made aircraft could not possibly do, sudden stops from extreme speeds, hard angle turns at extreme speed, most of them seem to vanish after a few seconds, if these were truly from a distant intelligent race, why would they be doing such things so often? Another thing that happens quite frequently is when people see these strange crafts, in many cases, they see military jets and helicopters in the area, usually chasing after the unknown craft, something tells me, they are being sent up for a reason, and they are catching them on radar (another thing that was proven back in the 50s, following UFOs above the whitehouse) radar confirmed they were real crafts.

There is also PLENTY of proof these things are real, John Podesta made the comment public disclosure about UFOs was his greatest regret from his career, Lawrence Rockefeller petitioned Hillary Clinton back in the 90s about giving him these details, not long after, she had a long meeting with him at his ranch, not to mention all the statements from very high ranking Govt and military officials, if all this is fake, it is the greatest hoax of all time! The proof is in all the FOIA documents released.

 

[edwest2]

Im not sure on the person, but there was a study done by someone associated with the catholic faith, to compare alien abductions and demonic activities, they are very similar, in almost every single way. I believe most of these UFOs people are reporting today are nothing more than demons, masquerading as something else, in an attempt to draw more people away from God.

I read over the MUFON and NUFORC reports fairly regularly, it appeared to me, most of these sighting, people would see a strange craft, doing things normal man made aircraft could not possibly do, sudden stops from extreme speeds, hard angle turns at extreme speed, most of them seem to vanish after a few seconds, if these were truly from a distant intelligent race, why would they be doing such things so often? Another thing that happens quite frequently is when people see these strange crafts, in many cases, they see military jets and helicopters in the area, usually chasing after the unknown craft, something tells me, they are being sent up for a reason, and they are catching them on radar (another thing that was proven back in the 50s, following UFOs above the whitehouse) radar confirmed they were real crafts.

There is also PLENTY of proof these things are real, John Podesta made the comment public disclosure about UFOs was his greatest regret from his career, Lawrence Rockefeller petitioned Hillary Clinton back in the 90s about giving him these details, not long after, she had a long meeting with him at his ranch, not to mention all the statements from very high ranking Govt and military officials, if all this is fake, it is the greatest hoax of all time! The proof is in all the FOIA documents released.

MUFON is not a credible organization. Those that came before, like NICAP, were suspect as well. Documents are classified: Restricted, Secret, Top Secret and a few other categories above. The government can and does not release certain documents. The CIA, formerly the OSS, had to be forced to release over a million pages of documents dating back to World War II over another matter. A writer who had a book published was accused of obtaining classified information in violation of some exceptions built into the FOIA. He told his accusers that the documents in question were located at a certain archive. On a later trip to this archive, he learned the documents had been reclassified and he (or anybody else) no longer had access to them.

It is not the greatest hoax of all time. It’s a poorly done cover-up. Get the paperback version of “Scientific Study of Unidentified Flying Objects” by Dr. Edward U. Condon (at around 1,000 pages). You’ll be surprised and confused since the US Air Force paid the University of Colorado for a comprehensive report on UFOs which was completed by 1968. I won’t spoil the punch line but it was not well-supported or reasonable.

There is no evidence of aliens.

Ed

 

[KidCatholic1]

What you have done is constructed a reality and then asked philosophical questions about it. This is fun and is called science fiction.

This particular kind of science fiction feels more scary and definitely creepy than ANYTHING. I don’t believe in extraterrestrial beings, but even the thought of this is a tad spine chilling.

 

[mikekle]

MUFON is not a credible organization. Those that came before, like NICAP, were suspect as well. Documents are classified: Restricted, Secret, Top Secret and a few other categories above. The government can and does not release certain documents. The CIA, formerly the OSS, had to be forced to release over a million pages of documents dating back to World War II over another matter. A writer who had a book published was accused of obtaining classified information in violation of some exceptions built into the FOIA. He told his accusers that the documents in question were located at a certain archive. On a later trip to this archive, he learned the documents had been reclassified and he (or anybody else) no longer had access to them.

It is not the greatest hoax of all time. It’s a poorly done cover-up. Get the paperback version of “Scientific Study of Unidentified Flying Objects” by Dr. Edward U. Condon (at around 1,000 pages). You’ll be surprised and confused since the US Air Force paid the University of Colorado for a comprehensive report on UFOs which was completed by 1968. I won’t spoil the punch line but it was not well-supported or reasonable.

There is no evidence of aliens.

Ed

If so, what are all these people, from all over the world seeing so often? Before you answer, I do realize a certain number are mis-indentifications of other aircraft, the ISS, planets, stars, etc. (especially at night), but I consistently read daytime sightings, some get fairly close up views, the lack of engine sound is common among most of them, plus the strange feelings the witnesses get when they see one of these, many report physical sickness, headaches, nosebleeds, being overly frightened, which go away right after the craft is gone?

The only other explanation would be experimental secret aircraft, but they normally do not fly over highly populated areas, especially during the daytime, and from our most modern advanced military planes, they still dont hold a candle to what these UFOs are seen doing, at least some of this technology would have trickled down to common aircraft by now.

I still say they are demons though, acting like beings from another planet would be the perfect disguise for demons, it would also explain why no one seems to be able to get clear video or pictures, only blurry indistinguishable lights. The demons are patient, all these UFO sightings over the years are leading up to an event where they will make themselves known, again, in the disguise of beings from another world, come here to earth to help us, give us new technologies, solve our problems, etc (sound familiar?)

Since this is a hot topic right now, its popular to believe they exist and are here, its nothing but conditioning the public to eventually accept this as fact. belief statistics and the belief Govts are withholding info are rising steadily…more and more people believe all this…so an eventual public ‘disclosure’ of some kind would not surprise many people, and many would even believe aliens created us and our planet if the right ‘authority’ told them…does this not sound like demonic activity to you?

 

[ericc]

Im not sure on the person, but there was a study done by someone associated with the catholic faith, to compare alien abductions and demonic activities, they are very similar, in almost every single way. I believe most of these UFOs people are reporting today are nothing more than demons, masquerading as something else, in an attempt to draw more people away from God.

I wouldn’t dismiss devil tricks but I don’t think God will let him have full freedom otherwise he can masquerade as God.

I read over the MUFON and NUFORC reports fairly regularly, it appeared to me, most of these sighting, people would see a strange craft, doing things normal man made aircraft could not possibly do, sudden stops from extreme speeds, hard angle turns at extreme speed, most of them seem to vanish after a few seconds, if these were truly from a distant intelligent race, why would they be doing such things so often? Another thing that happens quite frequently is when people see these strange crafts, in many cases, they see military jets and helicopters in the area, usually chasing after the unknown craft, something tells me, they are being sent up for a reason, and they are catching them on radar (another thing that was proven back in the 50s, following UFOs above the whitehouse) radar confirmed they were real crafts.

There is also PLENTY of proof these things are real, John Podesta made the comment public disclosure about UFOs was his greatest regret from his career, Lawrence Rockefeller petitioned Hillary Clinton back in the 90s about giving him these details, not long after, she had a long meeting with him at his ranch, not to mention all the statements from very high ranking Govt and military officials, if all this is fake, it is the greatest hoax of all time! The proof is in all the FOIA documents released.

If aliens have superior technology, and didn’t want to be seen they would have stayed hidden and invisible. Why drive around in shiny and colorful bright lights and do a “fast and furious” showoff? If they want to be seen, just park outside the White House. Perhaps these “aliens” didn’t have that great a technology to avoid detection and since they have been collecting samples for ages, I presume problems still remained or mission still unaccomplished… So conclusion is that if they are really alien, they are not that advance. Or they are earth folks trying desperately trying to stay hidden but not very good at it. Or they are just Unidentified Flying Objects and folks spin a story around the one that got away.

 

[friardchips]

I wouldn’t dismiss devil tricks but I don’t think God will let him have full freedom otherwise he can masquerade as God.

The devil has masqueraded as the Second Person. He pretended to be our Lord when he appeared to St. Pio in disguise (among other times that he appeared as himself). Also, it is believed that he also appeared in disguise to a false prophet. He does masquerade.

If aliens have superior technology, and didn’t want to be seen they would have stayed hidden and invisible. Why drive around in shiny and colorful bright lights and do a “fast and furious” showoff? If they want to be seen, just park outside the White House. Perhaps these “aliens” didn’t have that great a technology to avoid detection and since they have been collecting samples for ages, I presume problems still remained or mission still unaccomplished… So conclusion is that if they are really alien, they are not that advance. Or they are earth folks trying desperately trying to stay hidden but not very good at it. Or they are just Unidentified Flying Objects and folks spin a story around the one that got away.

There are so many ways hoaxes can occur. And because all of the sightings can’t be disclaimed as hoaxes then to approach the point at which we question the real existence of aliens is still very far down the line i.e:- probably never.

I have a theory but it is not aliens and I’m not saying it on here either. It would only make superiorly advanced imaginations worse!

 

[edwest2]

No imagination required, just careful research. And that’s all I’ll add.

Ed

 

[mikekle]

I wouldn’t dismiss devil tricks but I don’t think God will let him have full freedom otherwise he can masquerade as God.

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Well, thats exactly what the antichrist is going to do when he comes on the world scene, he will try to fool everyone into thinking he is Jesus returned.

Regarding aliens technology and level of advancement, one of the consistent reports among all UFO sightings, is, the craft is totally silent, another is their aerial abilities, like I said earlier, the most advanced aircraft we have today (F35) comes nowhere even close to the abilities of these crafts, so if all these UFOs people are seeing are experimental aircraft by Govt or military, then they have had a technology for many decades that they are not using in any other known aircraft, that seems unlikely to me, operating in total silence would be a HUGE advantage to every military on the planet, hard to believe this technology would not trickle down.

Interestingly there have been some curious statements from aircraft manufacturers, such as John Leer, the guy from Skunkworks that builds secret military craft that point to there being a lot of information being held by a handful of people about this topic.

My opinion is most are demonic, I could be wrong though, but the point is, a whole lot of people, from all over the world have been seeing strange crafts for decades, and most of them have the same characteristics, it is almost silly to think our Govt or military would not have at least some knowledge of what they are, they would not just blow off unknown aircraft flying around (especially not in todays world). Those in the military who have filed reports are told to keep silent, encouraged to not bring it up…if there was nothing to it, why the secrecy?

 

[ericc]

The devil has masqueraded as the Second Person. He pretended to be our Lord when he appeared to St. Pio in disguise (among other times that he appeared as himself). Also, it is believed that he also appeared in disguise to a false prophet. He does masquerade.

Aha! But he cannot claim to be God! He can’t even pronounce the name of Jesus Christ to Padre Pio. When cornered to say it, he turn tailed and fled. It must have hurt…

 

[friardchips]

Aha! But he cannot claim to be God! He can’t even pronounce the name of Jesus Christ to Padre Pio. When cornered to say it, he turn tailed and fled. It must have hurt…

satan can pronounce His name. The only name that satan does not use is Our Lady’s name. Demons including satan insult everyone including the name of the Second Person of the Holy Trinity. The reason satan would have fled is because St. Pio had discovered satan’s trickery. The Creator can put angels in the way of satan when the holy name is called upon yet this does not prevent satan from further trickery. The name of our Lord does save but is also abused. Please check reliable Catholic sources if you don’t believe me.