The Annunciation and Good Friday on the Same Day

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I heard on Catholic radio today that, if it were not for the Church moving the Annunciation to April 4 this year, it would fall on Good Friday (March 25) this year.

How ironic would it be to celebrate Mary agreeing to giving birth to Jesus and the the Crucifixion of Our Lord on the same day. Life and Death on the same day. The segment on the radio went into some on abortion, but the signal cut out and I did not hear it.😦

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WanderAimlessly:
I heard on Catholic radio today that, if it were not for the Church moving the Annunciation to April 4 this year, it would fall on Good Friday (March 25) this year.

How ironic would it be to celebrate Mary agreeing to giving birth to Jesus and the the Crucifixion of Our Lord on the same day. Life and Death on the same day. The segment on the radio went into some on abortion, but the signal cut out and I did not hear it.😦

PF
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Whenever the feast of the Annunciation falls in Holy Week, the Church moves it to the first day after the Easter octave, which is always the Monday after Divine Mercy Sunday.
Our Lord’s Passion, Death and Resurrection is the central mystery of our faith and therefore takes precedence over all other feast days. Since the Annunciation is celebrated as a Solemnity, the highest rank of all feasts, it is still celebrated, but not until after the Easter octave.
Next year the Annunciation will be celebrated on March 25.
 
Swiss Guard said:
Whenever the feast of the Annunciation falls in Holy Week, the Church moves it to the first day after the Easter octave, which is always the Monday after Divine Mercy Sunday.

Our Lord’s Passion, Death and Resurrection is the central mystery of our faith and therefore takes precedence over all other feast days. Since the Annunciation is celebrated as a Solemnity, the highest rank of all feasts, it is still celebrated, but not until after the Easter octave.

Next year the Annunciation will be celebrated on March 25.
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Swiss. I know that and I stated that in my original post.

What I was talking about that they, if nothing was changed, they would fall on the same day.

It is just that I find the notion that we would be celebrating the beginning of life and the death (although it brought new life to us) of Our Lord on the same day kind of ironic if the Annunciation was not moved to April 4.

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WanderAimlessly:
I heard on Catholic radio today that, if it were not for the Church moving the Annunciation to April 4 this year, it would fall on Good Friday (March 25) this year.

How ironic would it be to celebrate Mary agreeing to giving birth to Jesus and the the Crucifixion of Our Lord on the same day. Life and Death on the same day. The segment on the radio went into some on abortion, but the signal cut out and I did not hear it.😦

PF
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The Crib and the Cross are made from the same wood!
 
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WanderAimlessly:
I heard on Catholic radio today that, if it were not for the Church moving the Annunciation to April 4 this year, it would fall on Good Friday (March 25) this year.

How ironic would it be to celebrate Mary agreeing to giving birth to Jesus and the the Crucifixion of Our Lord on the same day. Life and Death on the same day. The segment on the radio went into some on abortion, but the signal cut out and I did not hear it.😦

PF
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Actually this is only being done in the Latin Catholic Church.

In the Byzantine (Ruthenian) Catholic Church we will be celebrating the Annunciation on Good Friday. We will be adding a Divine Liturgy. This is the only time when a Divine Liturgy is celebrated on Good Friday in our Church.

I am unsure how the Melkites are handleing this, I will find out tonight.
 
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The Eastern Rites HAVE NOT moved the Feast of the Annunciation, a HOLY DAY OF OBLIGATION for us!!!

We will be having a regular Divine Liturgy and then the Entombment Services following the Divine Liturgy.

It’s gonna be a LONG evening… Hope it’s nice weather so we can have our procession outside again this year!!
 
The Eastern Rites HAVE NOT moved the Feast of the Annunciation, a HOLY DAY OF OBLIGATION for us!!!

We will be having a regular Divine Liturgy and then the Entombment Services following the Divine Liturgy.

It’s gonna be a LONG evening… Hope it’s nice weather so we can have our procession outside again this year!!
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In the Latin Church no Mass is ever celebrated on Good Friday, or Holy Saturday. (until sundown Saturday)
 
Br. Rich SFO:
In the Latin Church no Mass is ever celebrated on Good Friday, or Holy Saturday. (until sundown Saturday)
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In the Byzantine Churches no Divine Liturgy is celebrated from the beginning of Lent to Pascha during weekdays, those days are aliturgical (unless a Holy Day falls on a weekday but then a Holy Day is considered a Sunday).

We do have Presanctified Liturgies on Wednesdays and Fridays (Ruthenian and Ukrainian) or just Wednesdays (Melkite).

This is the only time in our Liturgical calendars that the Divine Liturgy is to be celebrated on Good Friday.

This goes to the fact that March 25th is exactly nine months before December 25th, the Nativity of Our Lord. As Jesue is perfect it should be nine months.
 
The Annunciation and Good Friday on the same day? I wouldn’t like that at all. I am glad I am a Roman Catholic. It just wouldn’t feel right to interrupt the Triduum like that.
 
This is the only time in our Liturgical calendars that the Divine Liturgy is to be celebrated on Good Friday.
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I’m suprised for several reasons. I would have thought that Greek Catholics would celebrate Greek Easter (this year May 1st, and always later than RC Easter).

If you’all did, it would be chronologically impossible for Good Friday and the Annunciation to coincide.
 
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WanderAimlessly:
Swiss. I know that and I stated that in my original post.

What I was talking about that they, if nothing was changed, they would fall on the same day.

It is just that I find the notion that we would be celebrating the beginning of life and the death (although it brought new life to us) of Our Lord on the same day kind of ironic if the Annunciation was not moved to April 4.

PF
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What you didn’t mention in your original post is that the Church always moves the feast of the Annunciation to the Monday after Divine Mercy Sunday whenever it falls in Holy Week. You made it sound like this is something the Church just decided to do recently. It has always been done and therefore is a moot point.
I understand the irony you bring up. I think it’s very interesting that Good Friday is on March 25 this year. It’s a good meditation.
 
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m134e5:
The Annunciation and Good Friday on the same day? I wouldn’t like that at all. I am glad I am a Roman Catholic. It just wouldn’t feel right to interrupt the Triduum like that.
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Just as many Byzantines fine it very troubleing that in the Roman Catholic Church that you will have less than 9 months between the Annunciation and the Nativity. Jesus is perfect except for this year for you.
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Kielbasi:
I’m suprised for several reasons. I would have thought that Greek Catholics would celebrate Greek Easter (this year May 1st, and always later than RC Easter).

If you’all did, it would be chronologically impossible for Good Friday and the Annunciation to coincide.
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Byzantine Catholics are Catholic. Some, I think the Melkites, celebrate the Orthodox date for Pascha in the old country but not in the States as of yet. The Melkites have made some rumblings that they will make the change but they have yet to do so.
 
The beginning and the end. The Alpha and the Omega. Beautiful, isn’t it?
 
Byzantine Catholics are Catholic. Some, I think the Melkites, celebrate the Orthodox date for Pascha in the old country but not in the States as of yet. The Melkites have made some rumblings that they will make the change but they have yet to do so.
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But haven’t Byzantine aka Greek Catholics traditionally follow the Greek calendar?

There was a mine explosion in Pennsylvania, on Dec. 19 about a hundred years ago. It was considered a miracle that none of the Greek Catholic miners were killed as they all took the day off for St. Nicholas (celebrated according to the Julian calendar).

Must of been a change since then, since you’re observing the RC calendar now.
 
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ByzCath:
Actually this is only being done in the Latin Catholic Church.

In the Byzantine (Ruthenian) Catholic Church we will be celebrating the Annunciation on Good Friday. We will be adding a Divine Liturgy. This is the only time when a Divine Liturgy is celebrated on Good Friday in our Church.

I am unsure how the Melkites are handleing this, I will find out tonight.
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hmmm… Interesting. I may check it out since I normally do not go on Good Friday. Fortunately, we have Byzantine, Maronite, Melkite, and Ukrainian Catholic Churches in Scranton.

I have not been to an Eastern Rite Catholic Church since my college days in Latrobe, PA.

PF
 
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Kielbasi:
I’m suprised for several reasons. I would have thought that Greek Catholics would celebrate Greek Easter (this year May 1st, and always later than RC Easter).

This depends on where you live.

For “Greek” Catholics who live in the United States, they follow the Gregorian calendar.

For “Greek” Catholics who live in the ancestral homelands of Central Europe, they also follow the Gregorian calendar.

For "Greek"Catholics who live in Ukraine, they follow the Julian calendar.

There are some Ukrainian “Greek” Catholics who follow the Julian calendar in the US and Canada.

There are also Latin Rite Catholics who live in Siberia and Greece who follow the Julian calendar and will celebrate Easter with their Orthodox neighbors;)

Hope this helps…
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Patchunky:
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Kielbasi:
I’m suprised for several reasons. I would have thought that Greek Catholics would celebrate Greek Easter (this year May 1st, and always later than RC Easter).
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This depends on where you live.

For “Greek” Catholics who live in the United States, they follow the Gregorian calendar.

For “Greek” Catholics who live in the ancestral homelands of Central Europe, they also follow the Gregorian calendar.

For "Greek"Catholics who live in Ukraine, they follow the Julian calendar.

There are some Ukrainian “Greek” Catholics who follow the Julian calendar in the US and Canada.

There are also Latin Rite Catholics who live in Siberia and Greece who follow the Julian calendar and will celebrate Easter with their Orthodox neighbors;)

Hope this helps…
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While this over view is sort of correct it is not perfect.

There are many Ukrainian Greek Catholic Churches in North America who follow the old (or Julian) calendar.
 
Date of Holy Paskha in Orthodox Church has little to do with Iulian or Gregorian kalendar, as probably does not in Western Church. Paskha in both is calculated by moon. However, rule for calculation I do not know for Western Church.

Orthodox Church uses second century Aleksandrian Paskalia calculation for date Holy Paskha. Rules are simple:
  1. Holy Paskha occurs first Sunday after Spring Complete luna. The Spring Complete luna is the one after the Spring ravnodenstvie (similar day). By Alexandrian calculation this is March 21 (April 4 by New Style).
Similar calculation probably for Catholic Church but may use more accurate estimation of Spring Ravnodenstvie based on astronomology. But Orthodox Church follows rules for 1900 years better and would not change tradition just to be more astronomologically accurate.
 
I have someone in my family that was born on the 25th, and is much relieved to be informed her favorite meal, tacos, will be served on her official birthday this year, the 4th. 😉
 
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Volodymyr:
  1. Holy Paskha occurs first Sunday after Spring Complete luna. The Spring Complete luna is the one after the Spring ravnodenstvie (similar day). By Alexandrian calculation this is March 21 (April 4 by New Style)
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Volodymyr:

SLAVA ISUSU CHRISTU!

BUT, The Orthodox Church does NOT celebrate Holy Paska BEFORE the Jewish Passover!

The Western Church follows the Council of Nicea and their decree that Paska will be on the 1st Sunday after the 1st full moon of Spring!

The idea of celebrating Holy Paska AFTER the Jewish Passover was added later by the Orthodox Church.

Wishing you a holy, prayerful Velyky Post!

marko
 
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