The Apostle's Creed questions

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I was wondering why Jesus decended into hell.
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the “holy catholic church”, does that mean we believe in THE Catholic Church or … ? I thought I heard somewhere that it meant something else.
and
what exactly do we mean by the “communion of saints”

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Hello.

I was wondering why Jesus decended into hell.
and
the “holy catholic church”, does that mean we believe in THE Catholic Church or … ? I thought I heard somewhere that it meant something else.
and
what exactly do we mean by the “communion of saints”

Thanks everyone 🙂
catholic (lower case C) simply means “universal”, but of course, our Catholic (proper noun, upper case C), truly is universal, being on every contintent in the world.

“communion of the saints”

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957 Communion with the saints. "It is not merely by the title of example that we cherish the memory of those in heaven; we seek, rather, that by this devotion to the exercise of fraternal charity the union of the whole Church in the Spirit may be strengthened. Exactly as Christian communion among our fellow pilgrims brings us closer to Christ, so our communion with the saints joins us to Christ, from whom as from its fountain and head issues all grace, and the life of the People of God itself"498:

We worship Christ as God’s Son; we love the martyrs as the Lord’s disciples and imitators, and rightly so because of their matchless devotion towards their king and master. May we also be their companions and fellow disciples!499
 
Jesus descended into Hell and in the act known as the “Harrowing of Hell” brought Adam and Eve and the other patriarchs out. According to early Christian sources, and as depicted in the Divine Comedy of Dante, there was an enormous earthquake when this event occurred.
 
Jesus descended into Hell and in the act known as the “Harrowing of Hell” brought Adam and Eve and the other patriarchs out. According to early Christian sources, and as depicted in the Divine Comedy of Dante, there was an enormous earthquake when this event occurred.
Really? I hadn’t heard of this, thanks.
 
Jesus descended into Hell and in the act known as the “Harrowing of Hell” brought Adam and Eve and the other patriarchs out. According to early Christian sources, and as depicted in the Divine Comedy of Dante, there was an enormous earthquake when this event occurred.
How in-line with Church doctrine is Dante’s Comedy? Does the Church actually believe in multiple levels of Hell? I don’t mean to sound incredulous, I have no opinion on the subject and am simply very curious ^^
 
There is a great deal of confusion in regards to this question. This concept comes primarily from the Apostles’ Creed, which states, “He descended into hell.” There are also a few Scriptures which, depending on how they are translated, describe Jesus going to “hell.” In studying this issue, it is important to first understand what the Bible teaches about the realm of the dead.

In the Hebrew Scriptures, the word used to describe the realm of the dead is sheol. It simply means the “place of the dead” or the “place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek word that is used for hell is “hades,” which also refers to “the place of the dead.” Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicate that sheol/hades is a temporary place, where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection and judgment. Revelation 20:11-15 gives a clear distinction between the two. Hell (the lake of fire) is the permanent and final place of judgment for the lost. Hades is a temporary place. So, no, Jesus did not go to hell because hell is a future realm, only put into effect after the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15).

Sheol/hades is a realm with two divisions (Matthew 11:23,16:18; Luke 10:15,16:23; Acts 2:27-31), the abodes of the saved and the lost. The abode of the saved was called “paradise” and “Abraham’s bosom.” The abodes of the saved and the lost are separated by a “great chasm” (Luke 16:26). When Jesus ascended to heaven, He took the occupants of paradise (believers) with Him (Ephesians 4:8-10). The lost side of sheol/hades has remained unchanged. All unbelieving dead go there awaiting their final judgment in the future. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes, according to Ephesians 4:8-10 and 1 Peter 3:18-20.

Some of the confusion has arisen from such passages as Psalm 16:10-11 as translated in the King James Version, “For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption…Thou wilt show me the path of life.” “Hell” is not a correct translation of this verse. A correct reading would be “the grave” or “sheol.” Jesus said to the thief beside Him, “Today you will be with me in paradise” (Luke 23:43). Jesus’ body was in the tomb; His soul/spirit went to the “paradise” side of sheol/hades. He then removed all the righteous dead from paradise and took them with Him to heaven. Unfortunately, in many translations of the Bible, translators are not consistent, or correct, in how they translate the Hebrew and Greek words for “sheol,” “hades,” and “hell.”

Some have the viewpoint that Jesus went to “hell” or the suffering side of sheol/hades in order to further be punished for our sins. This idea is completely unbiblical. It was the death of Jesus on the cross and His suffering in our place that sufficiently provided for our redemption. It was His shed blood that effected our own cleansing from sin (1 John 1:7-9). As He hung there on the cross, He took the sin burden of the whole human race upon Himself. He became sin for us: “God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God” (2 Corinthians 5:21). This imputation of sin helps us understand Christ’s struggle in the garden of Gethsemane with the cup of sin which would be poured out upon Him on the cross.

When Jesus cried upon the cross, “Oh, Father, why have you forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:46), it was then that He was separated from the Father because of the sin poured out upon Him. As He gave up His spirit, He said, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit” (Luke 23:46). His suffering in our place was completed. His soul/spirit went to the paradise side of hades. Jesus did not go to hell. Jesus’ suffering ended the moment He died. The payment for sin was paid. He then awaited the resurrection of His body and His return to glory in His ascension. Did Jesus go to hell?
 
Descended into hell:

Basically, Christ really died, and He took the righteous who had died before Him into heaven.
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632 The frequent New Testament affirmations that Jesus was “raised from the dead” presuppose that the crucified one sojourned in the realm of the dead prior to his resurrection.478 This was the first meaning given in the apostolic preaching to Christ’s descent into hell: that Jesus, like all men, experienced death and in his soul joined the others in the realm of the dead. But he descended there as Savior, proclaiming the Good News to the spirits imprisoned there.479

633 Scripture calls the abode of the dead, to which the dead Christ went down, “hell” - Sheol in Hebrew or Hades in Greek - because those who are there are deprived of the vision of God.480 Such is the case for all the dead, whether evil or righteous, while they await the Redeemer: which does not mean that their lot is identical, as Jesus shows through the parable of the poor man Lazarus who was received into “Abraham’s bosom”:481 "It is precisely these holy souls, who awaited their Savior in Abraham’s bosom, whom Christ the Lord delivered when he descended into hell."482 Jesus did not descend into hell to deliver the damned, nor to destroy the hell of damnation, but to free the just who had gone before him.483

634 "The gospel was preached even to the dead."484 The descent into hell brings the Gospel message of salvation to complete fulfilment. This is the last phase of Jesus’ messianic mission, a phase which is condensed in time but vast in its real significance: the spread of Christ’s redemptive work to all men of all times and all places, for all who are saved have been made sharers in the redemption.

635 Christ went down into the depths of death so that "the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live."485 Jesus, “the Author of life”, by dying destroyed "him who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and [delivered] all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong bondage."486 Henceforth the risen Christ holds “the keys of Death and Hades”, so that "at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth."487
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Today a great silence reigns on earth, a great silence and a great stillness. A great silence because the King is asleep. The earth trembled and is still because God has fallen asleep in the flesh and he has raised up all who have slept ever since the world began. . . He has gone to search for Adam, our first father, as for a lost sheep. Greatly desiring to visit those who live in darkness and in the shadow of death, he has gone to free from sorrow Adam in his bonds and Eve, captive with him - He who is both their God and the son of Eve. . . "I am your God, who for your sake have become your son. . . I order you, O sleeper, to awake. I did not create you to be a prisoner in hell. Rise from the dead, for I am the life of the dead."488
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636 By the expression “He descended into hell”, the Apostles’ Creed confesses that Jesus did really die and through his death for us conquered death and the devil “who has the power of death” (Heb 2:14).

637 In his human soul united to his divine person, the dead Christ went down to the realm of the dead. He opened heaven’s gates for the just who had gone before him.
 
Thanks Dubay! Actually, I wondered why you had such an extensive, verbose answer when your posts aren’t normally written so well! In fact I found out that you copied your entire post from here: gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-go-to-hell.html

Except you left out the very end!
Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.
Please do not plagiarize off the net! We will find out :cool:
 
Wow, Dubay! What an uncharacteristically insightful and well-written answer! I was really curious about this so I Googled a little of your text, and found that you have cut and paste directly from gotquestions.org/did-Jesus-go-to-hell.html. Now, this is normally called plagiarism when you take something that’s not yours and claim authorship of it. So I would think that either you wrote the original article or you need to renounce your claim of writing this.

Also, you forgot to include the final line of the text, which goes like this:
Did Jesus go to hell? No. Did Jesus go to sheol/hades? Yes.
This conclusion offers much controversy for Catholics! We are equally free to believe that Jesus descended only into the Limbo of the Fathers or that he also went to the Hell of the Lost.

I would not recommend that you or any other Catholic use this site for answers, because it is a “Biblical Christianity” site that does not offer true and correct Catholic teaching. Its doctrine on the Blood of Christ in particular makes no mention of the Eucharist. I would especially not copy-and-paste things from there anymore, as it is not just intellectually dishonest, but also illegal copyright infringement. Thanks!
 
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