The "Are you Catholic or Christian" Question

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I couldn’t agree more.
there is a huge difference between being a Catholic and being a Christian and I wish Our priests would not lump us all together in their homilies.All Catholics are Christian but not all Christians are Catholic,yet.
 
I couldn’t agree more.
there is a huge difference between being a Catholic and being a Christian and I wish Our priests would not lump us all together in their homilies.All Catholics are Christian but not all Christians are Catholic,yet.
Being a believer in Christ is all you need
 
I am a Catholic Christian. It is the fullness, with each doctrine linking into the other. What kata-holos it truly is! 🙂
 
Being a believer in Christ is all you need
Hmmm…you must have missed this from Matthew:

Matthew 7:21

21 “Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
 
Hmmm…you must have missed this from Matthew:

Matthew 7:21

21 “Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
And truly, every good Catholic shall enter the kingdom of heaven.

But further, my friend, I must confess that it is so much easier to do the will of God, Our Father, with all of the many additional graces that flow through the Catholic Church to its members. It is not only God’s Will that we be Catholics, but that we live our Catholic faith to its fullest. Then, when we say, “Lord, Lord,” he will reply, "Well done, good and faithful servant. Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. " 🙂

I want you to know this, not so that I can win an argument, but so that your life will be blessed to the fullest as the Lord intends. 🙂
 
I couldn’t agree more.
there is a huge difference between being a Catholic and being a Christian and I wish Our priests would not lump us all together in their homilies.All Catholics are Christian but not all Christians are Catholic,yet.
AMEN!
 
I couldn’t agree more.
there is a huge difference between being a Catholic and being a Christian and I wish Our priests would not lump us all together in their homilies.All Catholics are Christian but not all Christians are Catholic,yet.
I agree.
AND we are still all in this together with Christ.

😃
 
Catholics and Protestants are very much Christians, they just worship differently!
 
Why do you think Jesus established a Church then?
Mary.
Not to save people…Only belief in Jesus as Savior can do that

His church is to spread the gospel, edify, preach the word, comfort the flock, etc…

But the church in and of itself does not save…
 
Not to save people…Only belief in Jesus as Savior can do that

His church is to spread the gospel, edify, preach the word, comfort the flock, etc…

But the church in and of itself does not save…
His Church is also to administer the sacraments - the means of grace - for forgiveness of sins.

Jon
 
Not to save people…Only belief in Jesus as Savior can do that

His church is to spread the gospel, edify, preach the word, comfort the flock, etc…

But the church in and of itself does not save…
There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church.
(that’s another thread’ it’s been discussed at length)
Catholic view point.
 
Not to save people…Only belief in Jesus as Savior can do that

His church is to spread the gospel, edify, preach the word, comfort the flock, etc…

But the church in and of itself does not save…
And for the flock, the Church is especially designed to feed them the Bread of Life, His own precious Body and Blood to eat, which was what, if you recall, caused many to stop following Him, because they knew He meant it seriously. So all this stuff about being saved, and then not acknowledging Jesus’ words, “Unless you eat My Body and drink My Blood, you shall not have life within you.” He never came back and explained it away. He never put it in a new light because people were leaving Him. Think about it. Then think about it some more. Don’t stop thinking about it until you can prove He meant otherwise, which I will assure you beforehand, you cannot.

There must be a reason the Church has held this belief tightly to its breast since its very foundation. This is at the very core and essence of Christianity-- Unless you eat My Body and drink My Blood, you shall not have life within you. Sounds a lot like a requirement of salvation to me! Don’t worry. Catholics also believe in baptism and having faith in Jesus as their Lord and Savior. But, my dear friend, you are missing a huge piece of what Jesus wants of and for you. If you believe in Him, you must also believe in His words. +Deus tecum
 
It’s a rather long argument whether Catholics are Christians or the reverse.

The Question should really be , “Is your local church Orthodox in the New Testament”.

Many denominations fail the orthodoxy test.

Here are a few examples:

Mark 16:15-16
15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

A professed believer is saved and should submit him or herself for Baptism.
Churches who practice infant baptism ignore this. An infant cannot believe or repent but is also guilty of nothing. They must grow up and be instructed in the faith and then submit themselves for baptism (see the Ethiopian in Acts 8:27). A baptized believer will receive the Holy Ghost (be born again). Some churches don’t teach this.

John 10
27 My sheep hear my voice. I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 What my Father has given me is greater than all else, and no one can snatch it out of the Father’s hand.[c] 30 The Father and I are one.”

A true believer cannot be lost to the Lord. This is controversial in churches today.

Romans 10:9
9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

A declared Christian is saved. The Holy Spirit dwells in those Born Again.
The Thief on the cross next to Jesus, Luke 23.

Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.

No human work or ritual can save, only acceptance by faith of God’s grace.
A believer confesses his or her faith publicly and repents of all sin.

2Tim3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for proof, for correction, of instruction in righteousness.

Many churches today hold their teaching or tradition above scripture and refuse correction.

Revelation 9:20
And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

Why are some churches today filled with statues? Some with kneelers in front of them.
You wouldn’t see a statue in a Jewish Temple. Some say that they are just Art but what do you think the OT saints would say about them? Relics and Charms are also pagan.

There are plenty of good arguments on this subject on the internet. The Catholic Answers website has their arguments. Enjoy the research.

God Bless
 
It’s a rather long argument whether Catholics are Christians or the reverse.

The Question should really be , “Is your local church Orthodox in the New Testament”.

Many denominations fail the orthodoxy test.

Here are a few examples:

Mark 16:15-16
15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

A professed believer is saved and should submit him or herself for Baptism.
Churches who practice infant baptism ignore this. An infant cannot believe or repent but is also guilty of nothing. They must grow up and be instructed in the faith and then submit themselves for baptism (see the Ethiopian in Acts 8:27). A baptized believer will receive the Holy Ghost (be born again). Some churches don’t teach this.

John 10
27 My sheep hear my voice. I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish. No one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 What my Father has given me is greater than all else, and no one can snatch it out of the Father’s hand.[c] 30 The Father and I are one.”

A true believer cannot be lost to the Lord. This is controversial in churches today.

Romans 10:9
9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

A declared Christian is saved. The Holy Spirit dwells in those Born Again.
The Thief on the cross next to Jesus, Luke 23.

Ephesians 2:8-9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.

No human work or ritual can save, only acceptance by faith of God’s grace.
A believer confesses his or her faith publicly and repents of all sin.

2Tim3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for proof, for correction, of instruction in righteousness.

Many churches today hold their teaching or tradition above scripture and refuse correction.

Revelation 9:20
And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

Why are some churches today filled with statues? Some with kneelers in front of them.
You wouldn’t see a statue in a Jewish Temple. Some say that they are just Art but what do you think the OT saints would say about them? Relics and Charms are also pagan.

There are plenty of good arguments on this subject on the internet. The Catholic Answers website has their arguments. Enjoy the research.

God Bless
Could you provide a definition of “orthodox”?

Jon
 
More examples congruent with the Catholic Christians:

Matthew 16:27
For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels: and then will he render to every man according to his works.
Matthew 19:16-21
And behold one came and said to him: Good master, what good shall I do that I may have life everlasting?

Who said to him: Why asketh thou me concerning good? One is good, God. But if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

He said to him: Which?

And Jesus said: Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness. Honor thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

The young man saith to him: All these I have kept from my youth, what is yet wanting to me?

Jesus saith to him: If thou wilt be perfect, go sell what thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come follow me.
Matthew 25:34-36

Come, ye blessed of my Father, possess you the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry, and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and you took me in. Naked, and you covered me: sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me.

Infant circumcision is replace with baptism: Col 2:11–12
In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of flesh in the circumcision of Christ; and you were buried with him in baptism.
 
Yes to both . That is Christian and catholic with small “c” as in universal ,as in round the world there are people with similar faith. Now Roman Catholic or Orthodox Catholic or Protestant is more specific. But I know your question is to do with capital “C” Catholic. We went door to door once wanting to share the gospel with anyone and quite a few Catholics would say, “No thanks, I am Catholic”. We understood…Thankfully in heaven we won’t need names like Protestant or Orthodox or Catholic etc. The Bride is the Bride and is One,Holy,Universal whose foundation is Apostolic.
 
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