The Beginning of the End - Does Anyone Know of a Parish That Will Begin Using the New Translation for the Sung Mass Parts Next Weekend?

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This may have been the last weekend in some parishes in the US for the sung parts of the old missal. That is if the bishop and pastor takes the USCCB permission to start using the new translation for sung parts next weekend (1st weekend in September).

Here’s one I found on the net.

frmartinfox.blogspot.com/

Has anyone else heard of a parish that will be starting next week?
 
While all I’ve heard from my neck of the woods is crickets and silence on early implementation of the sung Mass parts, up yonder from me, the Archdiocese of San Antonio will commence its gradual implementation this coming weekend.
 
My diocese (Springfield in Massachusetts) has given permission for it.

I asked the cantor who sings at three out of four Sunday Masses, and she said she had found a Mass setting, but didn’t remember what it was called. She said she would start using it “sometime in September.” We agreed that it was critical for the people to learn the new words.

On Wednesday evenings, my schola and I will be singing the new ICEL chants starting September 7.
 
Asperges_Me said:
This may have been the last weekend in some parishes in the US for the sung parts of the old missal. That is if the bishop and pastor takes the USCCB permission to start using the new translation for sung parts next weekend (1st weekend in September).

Here’s one I found on the net.

frmartinfox.blogspot.com/

Has anyone else heard of a parish that will be starting next week?
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Our parish has started, in fact, last week.
 
My parish is going to start using the new sung parts on Sept 18th.

I’m not sure how I feel about it. A lot of the reason is the Gloria. They don’t want one of the first times using the new Gloria to be on Christmas and I understand that. But at the same time, it will be kind of weird going back and forth between things depending on whether or not it is sung, Sunday mass vs. daily mass.
 
Yes,our parish in Australia,St Ignatius Loyola started using the new translation for sung Masses at Pentecost.The congregration has adapted well,though with a little trepidation at first. We use tunes familiar to them from the old ordo like “The Mass for Freedom” and Marty haugen’s Mass of Creation,rewritten to accomodate the new translation. We find the Nicean Creed translation nearly impossible and have adopted the Apostle Creed as a beter alternative.It will take a long time to get use to it all after forty years,but we try to be positive and make the most of it, Best wishes and Good luck!!! :newidea::aok::aok:
 
It starts in England too. I have read on several priest blogs that they will use it from next sunday, but we’ll see what happens across the country. (I think Scotland will wait until Advent.)
 
What is impossible about the Nicene Creed translation? It looks pretty straight-forward to me.
 
My parish is in the diocese of San Antonio, TX. Our archbishop has given us approval to begin using the new translation for the sung parts of the Mass beginning the 1st Sunday in Sept. We’ve had several practice sessions with the new words and music before Saturday Vigil and Sunday Masses the past several weeks. We’re using the Mass of Renewal for the musical parts. The new music is an improvement over the old, IMHO.

Yours in Christ,
 
The Archdiocese of Singapore, where I am in, will also implement the new English translation on Sunday 4 Sep. (Though I know of at least one parish that has started a couple of weeks earlier with some parts of the new translation.)

According to the Liturgy Office, we should be reciting the parts for the first month so that we learn to say the new words. Thereafter, we will sing the parts of Mass according to ICEL’s chant setting for one year as the common repertoire for the entire Archdiocese. Only after the first year will parishes be allowed to try other Mass settings.

We will see if anyone keeps to the instructions in the second paragraph.
 
John_2029 said:
My parish is in the diocese of San Antonio, TX. Our archbishop has given us approval to begin using the new translation for the sung parts of the Mass beginning the 1st Sunday in Sept. We’ve had several practice sessions with the new words and music before Saturday Vigil and Sunday Masses the past several weeks. We’re using the Mass of Renewal for the musical parts. The new music is an improvement over the old, IMHO.

Yours in Christ,
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Is that the one by David Hoffman? If it is, I would not recommend it. His setting for the Gloria is responsorial. The Gloria was never meant to be responsorial; it is supposed to be straight-through. Thankfully, we are going to go with the ICEL chatn settings. They are easy and do not feautre excessive musical interludes. Richard Proulx’s A Community Mass is also a good, revised option.
 
We are starting this next sunday I think. The Archdiocese of Indianapolis has chosen the Storrington Mass as the main mass to be sung during celebrations. I think we are allowed to sing other settings, but when like there is a mass where everyone from different parishes comes together we will sing the Storrington Mass.
 
Asperges_Me said:
This may have been the last weekend in some parishes in the US for the sung parts of the old missal. That is if the bishop and pastor takes the USCCB permission to start using the new translation for sung parts next weekend (1st weekend in September).
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FYI,

THe USCCB no longer has a part in determining when the new translation may be used within a dicoese.

Once the translation recieved the recognito from Rome, a local bishop was free to start using the translation then.

THe USCCB has responsibility in voting on the translation to be sent to ROme for approval, but once the approval is granted, then the USSCB’s role is strictly advisory
 
My parish started last Sunday. Not sure who’s version we are using but the Gloria is a responsorial version. Now if we could just get ride of the Glory and Praise Hymnal.
 
Knowing my parish, we’ll just show up one Sunday and get a handout that no one will be expecting. Then we’ll be reprimanded that we’re not “doing it right.”
 
We are not beginning with the sung Gloria and acclamations until October.
 
Asperges_Me said:
This may have been the last weekend in some parishes in the US for the sung parts of the old missal. That is if the bishop and pastor takes the USCCB permission to start using the new translation for sung parts next weekend (1st weekend in September).

Here’s one I found on the net.

frmartinfox.blogspot.com/

Has anyone else heard of a parish that will be starting next week?
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Mine
 
We started to learn the Gloria, Sanctus and Agnus Dei last Sunday. They are more chant-like than the previous version. Our priest is having a hard time with the new tune when he starts singing the first line of Gloria. That’s why we are starting so early, so we’ll have it right by Advent, (although we won’t be actually singing Gloria at Advent!)
 
Last Thursday was our first practice of the choir season. We began learning the melody line for a new Gloria. Once the choir has has the Gloria down we will begin teaching it to the Assembly. We haven’t begun learning any other Mass parts yet.
 
Brendan said:
FYI,

THe USCCB no longer has a part in determining when the new translation may be used within a dicoese.

Once the translation recieved the recognito from Rome, a local bishop was free to start using the translation then.

THe USCCB has responsibility in voting on the translation to be sent to ROme for approval, but once the approval is granted, then the USSCB’s role is strictly advisory
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That’s not correct. The USCCB set the date for implementation for the new translation (November 27), and subsequently conceded to individual bishops the authority to allow use of the sung portions earlier. But a bishop could not simply decide to implement the whole thing tomorrow.
 
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