The Bible was altered! Who, What, When, Where & Why?

[Booklover]

cont.

Appealing to force, in order to support a claim is yet another logical fallacy that has been often and quite successfully used by dictators and especially by Muhammad. This fallacy is called Argumentum ad baculum. It happens when someone resorts to force (or the threat of force) to push others to accept a conclusion.

This argument is often brought by Muslims who say that the reason that Muhammad won against all his enemies is because God assisted him. They completely overlook the fact that Muhammad used to send spies to bring him news about his to-be-victims and would attack when they were unarmed and least expecting. That he did not win because God was with him but because he was a cunning, perfidious and ruthless man who was bent to win through dishonesty, treason and by taking his victims by surprise. You do not need God to be on your side to kill unarmed villagers when they are out after their daily business while you ride among them with your horses fully geared and with your sword unshielded.

 

[patrick457]

At least we could demand if they know what was written in the original Bible; That way, we could compare what was actually written in the Original and was altered/remover on the copies we have today.

 

[tskal]

Ahhh, Sixtus, perhaps ‘erred’ is not quite what we’re looking
for here. The Holy Spirit doesn’t allow errors.

 

[mark_a]

I have once again been told that we Christians have been deceived and that the foundation of that deceit is the Bible. The accusation is that the Bible has been altered.

Don’t you just love it when, instead of being original enough to invent one’s own “better” religion, a prophet begins his mission by claiming our writings and writers are corrupted and allows himself a bunch of wives to boot?

 

[latin_rite]

But as for the proof of the words, everything I’ve read about seems to imply that its actually fairly conistent - which is pretty amazing consider human beings did the translations and re-writing of each book by hand for years. Guess that shows the care involved.

I heard that. It use to take a Monk/Priest almost a life time of copying the bible word for word. And would be worth in todays money about ten thousand dollars. So next time someone tells you that the Catholic Church were keeping the bible away from the people by chaining them to alters etc. You’ll be able to answer them.

 

[SOUNDTRUTH]

Of course it is altered

1. 
   *]You can never translate something exactly - some changes are always introduced. This is especially true of texts which have no punctuation, no capitalization, and no spaces between words (most of the bible).
   *]We don’t have anything even close to “original” copies of the gospels so there is no way to determine if changes were introduced or what they might have been.

1. 
   If you have the skill to understand the mechanics of reality, it becomes clear that there are two planes of reality which are directly connected to each other. One moves across time, and the other extends across all time. Therefore, when a Bible is written, the writing , and all other accompanying events, are directed from the second plane of reality, the see ALL plane of reality.
   
   Therefore, all versions of the bible are part of the bigger " ONE " point of view, the point of view that sees across all time, the point of view known as God’s point of view. Changes over time, are only what we see from our severely limited point of view of the complete structure of reality.
   
   Proof of the existence of the second plane of reality is easy. Two planes of reality allows two kinds of Events. One is governed by us in our reality, and the other is governed from the Holistic plane of reality.
   
   Tests such as the two slit experiment show light behaving as particles if WE monitor the experiment in action, by monitoring the photons passing through the slits, but are behaving like waves if we only look at the outcome of the experiment. This is because if WE monitor the test in progress, WE have broken a once possible large Holistic Event, into small Relativistic events that are seen in the " Present " time as this present time moves across time itself.
   
   If We do not tamper with the experiment, then the outcome is governed from the Holistic side of reality, and the outcome is determined by taking everything into account that will take place between the beginning and the end of the test. This means that ALL Photons involved within the experiment will ALL be seen at the same time from the Holistic point of view. This then changes the rules of how the photons must interact, for movement across time, has been taken out of the equation.
   
   And now at this time, you will say " WHO CARES ", " THIS IS A RELIGIOUS FORUM ", and so you remain in the present time, by having no desire to see the big picture.