The Brown Scapular

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Thank you Colas and the other responders but I tend to believe as gurneyhalleck does. I find that Jesus is our saviour and our Lord. He is the one that made it possible for us to go before the Father through Him as our Great High Priest. I think Jesus never tires of His saints praying to God through Him. It is so much easier and I find I am more confident that he has heard me when I direct my prayers to him directly.

Meanwhile, I do not judge any others that pray to the saints either.

Again thanks to everyone!!
 
COLOS said:
I’m hoping to be invested with the 5-fold scapulars this Sunday after Mass. I’m pretty excited, lol.
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Woot!! Got vested in the scapular this morning! Very exciting! I experienced a very real consolation while being vested, too. Man, I love being Catholic.

Alrighty, so I know that this doesn’t particularly add value to the thread, but I’m excited about it and wanted to tell somebody. Then this thread popped into my head, lol.

Peace to you.
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Pray for me,
Andrew
 
Step by step… we find our comfort levels… 🙂

In the beginning I embraced sacramentals and the rarest parts of the treasury of the Church.
COLOS said:
Woot!! Got vested in the scapular this morning! Very exciting! I experienced a very real consolation while being vested, too. Man, I love being Catholic.

Alrighty, so I know that this doesn’t particularly add value to the thread, but I’m excited about it and wanted to tell somebody. Then this thread popped into my head, lol.

Peace to you.
Pray for me,
Andrew
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Prayers! Congratulations! Thanks be to God!

Remember, as part of the five-fold scapular, every Friday, those dedicated especially to the Passion of Christ, wearing the red scapular of the Passion, the promise of an increase in the virtues of Faith, Hope and Charity… 🙂

“In 1846, Our Blessed Lord appeared to Sr. Appoline Andriveau, showing her the red scapular of the Passion, promising that a great increase of faith, hope and charity would be reserved every Friday for those who wore the scapular. This vision was several times repeated; and the extraordinary thing about it is the rapidity with which it was approved in Rome.”

Every Friday… remembering the Passion of Christ… and wearing a red garment reminding us of His Precious Blood shed for our souls.

To truly and properly receive graces we have to be thankful for them and prepared to receive them by overcome vices that get in the way. 🙂

As faith, hope, and charity are infused virtues… this is all the more special. 🙂
 
COLOS said:
I steered clear of sacramentals for quite awhile, even after I converted. I even steered clear of total consecration to Mary. Silly me. Now, things are very different. I’m hoping to be invested with the 5-fold scapulars this Sunday after Mass. I’m pretty excited, lol.

You can only accept what you are able to accept. In time and with prayer and study, you may wake up one day with the sudden realization of how awesome the scapulars are! But in the mean time, it is private revelation. You will never be required to believe that Our Blessed Mother made some really awesome promises for whoever is invested with the Brown Scapular. These sacramentals are not a part of general revelation. Your salvation doesn’t hinge on believing in these things.

Just be aware that mothers tend to give little ‘extras’ to their children simply because they love them. If that’s what sinful moms do, how much more so the Mother of God?

Why not look into the Church’s teachings on sacramentals? It isn’t unknown for God to use physical things as a means of Grace.
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Pray for me,
Andrew
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Colas, your remarks mimicked my comments to my seventh grade faith formation class today where I gave them a brown scapular! And more importantly, congratulations on your investiture!

I wish I added your remark about how mothers seem to always give some little extras,…….simply because they loved them……wow,……I sense we all experienced that. Yet why is my Blessed Virgin Mother any different?

As I asked the class if possibly my Lord was trying to tell me something from the other visible miracles one can see today, my assistant remarked that she also began questioning my question to the class why doesn’t on see these same things in the non Catholic faiths? I also remarked about Mark 9:38-40, there are other good people in the world, but why don’t they have the same beliefs or signs available for them? Are they simply smarter?

My Lord has given me many graces, signs and clues. We need to follow them!
 
Dear Friends,

Just a note from an Eastern Christian perspective . . . 🙂

When we adore Jesus, we are adoring a composite Divine Being - that is Someone Who has our nature.

God Himself mediates salvation to us through the “Man Jesus Christ” as St Paul says.

The veneration of Saints is not to go to “middle men” at all. Jesus lives in His Saints through the Holy Spirit. Jesus mediates His salvation to us and lives in our hearts. To pray to a saint is to pray to Jesus who lives in the saint.

Devotion to the saints and to icons/images for that matter is intimately connected with the Incarnation of the Divine Word. God became Man so that we might see Him and be all the more intimately united with Him.

He didn’t appear in the clouds, but of a Virgin in a manger. He taught that anyone who receives one of His witnesses, receives Him. And whatsoever you do to the “least of My brethren, that you do UNTO ME.”

In the Incarnation, God unites Himself with our humanity and offers us the real possibility of not only being saved, but also deified in Him through the Holy Spirit.

In the Eastern Church, the saints are all depicted in heaven of similar height and look - they are all made to look like the proto-icon of God the Word, Jesus Christ, Whom they have taken on themselves.

To venerate an icon or a saint etc. is to honour the Incarnation. The Seventh Ecumenical Council was a victory of Orthodoxy (i.e. right belief and right worship) because it proclaimed that icons could be made of God the Word Incarnate. Just as a previous council declared the term “Theotokos” as the orthodox confession of the Incarnate Lord Jesus, so too the icons of Him and His saints and their veneration are a confession of the truth of the Incarnation. To refuse to venerate an icon or a saint is to, on various levels, deny the Incarnation took place (even if that is not our expressed intention).

In Christ, we become a “little Christ” which is the best possible definition of what a saint truly is.

To venerate such a “little Christ” is to honour the Christ Who lives in the saints by means of His Holy Spirit.

That is the message of Incarnational Christianity and of the Catholic Church of the Apostles.

There can be no wavering in this.

Alex
 
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