The Case for God

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From St. Thomas Aquinas’ Summa Theologica:

newadvent.org/summa/1002.htm

*I answer that, The existence of God can be proved in five ways.

The first and more manifest way is the argument from motion. It is certain, and evident to our senses, that in the world some things are in motion. Now whatever is in motion is put in motion by another, for nothing can be in motion except it is in potentiality to that towards which it is in motion; whereas a thing moves inasmuch as it is in act. For motion is nothing else than the reduction of something from potentiality to actuality. But nothing can be reduced from potentiality to actuality, except by something in a state of actuality. Thus that which is actually hot, as fire, makes wood, which is potentially hot, to be actually hot, and thereby moves and changes it. Now it is not possible that the same thing should be at once in actuality and potentiality in the same respect, but only in different respects. For what is actually hot cannot simultaneously be potentially hot; but it is simultaneously potentially cold. It is therefore impossible that in the same respect and in the same way a thing should be both mover and moved, i.e. that it should move itself. Therefore, whatever is in motion must be put in motion by another. If that by which it is put in motion be itself put in motion, then this also must needs be put in motion by another, and that by another again. But this cannot go on to infinity, because then there would be no first mover, and, consequently, no other mover; seeing that subsequent movers move only inasmuch as they are put in motion by the first mover; as the staff moves only because it is put in motion by the hand. Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other; and this everyone understands to be God.

The second way is from the nature of the efficient cause. In the world of sense we find there is an order of efficient causes. There is no case known (neither is it, indeed, possible) in which a thing is found to be the efficient cause of itself; for so it would be prior to itself, which is impossible. Now in efficient causes it is not possible to go on to infinity, because in all efficient causes following in order, the first is the cause of the intermediate cause, and the intermediate is the cause of the ultimate cause, whether the intermediate cause be several, or only one. Now to take away the cause is to take away the effect. Therefore, if there be no first cause among efficient causes, there will be no ultimate, nor any intermediate cause. But if in efficient causes it is possible to go on to infinity, there will be no first efficient cause, neither will there be an ultimate effect, nor any intermediate efficient causes; all of which is plainly false. Therefore it is necessary to admit a first efficient cause, to which everyone gives the name of God.

The third way is taken from possibility and necessity, and runs thus. We find in nature things that are possible to be and not to be, since they are found to be generated, and to corrupt, and consequently, they are possible to be and not to be. But it is impossible for these always to exist, for that which is possible not to be at some time is not. Therefore, if everything is possible not to be, then at one time there could have been nothing in existence. Now if this were true, even now there would be nothing in existence, because that which does not exist only begins to exist by something already existing. Therefore, if at one time nothing was in existence, it would have been impossible for anything to have begun to exist; and thus even now nothing would be in existence — which is absurd. Therefore, not all beings are merely possible, but there must exist something the existence of which is necessary. But every necessary thing either has its necessity caused by another, or not. Now it is impossible to go on to infinity in necessary things which have their necessity caused by another, as has been already proved in regard to efficient causes. Therefore we cannot but postulate the existence of some being having of itself its own necessity, and not receiving it from another, but rather causing in others their necessity. This all men speak of as God.

The fourth way is taken from the gradation to be found in things. Among beings there are some more and some less good, true, noble and the like. But “more” and “less” are predicated of different things, according as they resemble in their different ways something which is the maximum, as a thing is said to be hotter according as it more nearly resembles that which is hottest; so that there is something which is truest, something best, something noblest and, consequently, something which is uttermost being; for those things that are greatest in truth are greatest in being, as it is written in Metaph. ii. Now the maximum in any genus is the cause of all in that genus; as fire, which is the maximum heat, is the cause of all hot things. Therefore there must also be something which is to all beings the cause of their being, goodness, and every other perfection; and this we call God.

The fifth way is taken from the governance of the world. We see that things which lack intelligence, such as natural bodies, act for an end, and this is evident from their acting always, or nearly always, in the same way, so as to obtain the best result. Hence it is plain that not fortuitously, but designedly, do they achieve their end. Now whatever lacks intelligence cannot move towards an end, unless it be directed by some being endowed with knowledge and intelligence; as the arrow is shot to its mark by the archer. Therefore some intelligent being exists by whom all natural things are directed to their end; and this being we call God.*
 
I am interested in hearing Catholic Answers participants talk about the single most important reason they believe in the existence of God.

Thank you.
The very thing that brought me to belief in God was nothing of a fantastic nature; and indeed, neither was it a masterpiece of human logic. There was no fairy tale to speak of. No brother. I was not suddenly transported to a new world full of magical treats of the 3rd kind. I explicitly remember my conversion—God was silent. And that silence was like dying. So when I say that my past is bitter, you ought not to fail in guessing that my reasons for belief were of an absolutely existential nature—for which I make no apology.

I believed because I needed a good reason to continue existing and caring. I was trying to avoid that sad ending that would have me in some metal institution in the middle of no-where; sedated with psychotropics. And yet, in the absence of God, paradox saw it fit to impose upon me and my wretchedness a sense that Life is sweet to taste. And still, underneath that sweet sugar coated toping, I find there, lying on the ground at my bare feet, a rotting carcass; surrounded by lifeless scavengers, posing as a means to a positive end.
I’m sorry, but Existence without an objective purpose, is to me, a foul concept; a cancer that is looked upon as a wonder of our times. And for this reason, it cannot fail to be repugnant.

Not only do we lose the very purpose and value that underlies our smothered cries for justice and fair treatment, but everything becomes a charade; a dancing of atoms in the ballroom of insanity; appearing to have meaning, feeding us false notions and illusions of truth.
Everything I have said, done, and going to do, is nothing more then our blind Universe putting on a cosmic puppet show. In other words, man is just a galactic expression of energy—in its most deceptive form. I cannot stomach it, for I know as much as I know my own mind, that if there is no God, then so far as the truth is a sword that strikes deep into my own heart, I cannot speak of my self in any high esteem, or as being any more then an unhappy parasite living of the energy of my surroundings; scrambling frantically to avoid the inevitable. We live pointless lives, using each other for what ever comfort we can find in living things, while making the rich richer, and then dying poor like rats in the sewer, all in a relatively short period of time. And in that time, in our insecurity and fear, we beg for the love other creatures, only to be crushed under somebody’s ego.

You must understand brother; the concept that we know of as God, is the very thing that drag my cadaver out of this living hell, and with out him, I would much rather jump of a bridge and make my home with the dead, then live in this cold shallow world that people choose to call home.

Apart from that, I also have many philosophical reasons believing in God, as I strongly believe that we ought to have “reasonable beliefs”. But I am not going to post those yet. Instead I would like to try out a newish kind of argument that isn’t really new at all. I just want to see your response to it. It is inspired by St. Anslem.

It goes like this…

The Arguement For Perfection.

It is impossible for an objective perfection not to exist, for if it did not exist, then it would not be perfect. Therefore an objective perfection necessarily exists according to its nature.

Thank you for reading. I hope I didn’t put you off talking to me. It’s just a little fun.

Peace.
 
It is impossible for an objective perfection not to exist, for if it did not exist, then it would not be perfect. Therefore an objective perfection necessarily exists according to its nature.

I have to agree with Aquinas who says somewhere that Anselm’s argument consists of circular reasoning.

I prefer the cosmological and teleological arguments, which are coming into their own once again as we see from scientific discoveries that infer a Big Bang and Intelligent Design.

But most of all I think that at the hour of our death there is no argument that outdoes Pascal’s Wager. Just about every atheist I have known has warmed up to that argument as the Angel of Death approaches.
 
I have a deep and enduring ‘feeling’, ‘intuition’ or faith that God exists. I have had this since childhood.

I am fully aware (as a psychologist) of other psychological reasons for this ‘feeling’, and have read deeply in this area, but I believe it to be the gift of faith.

Subjective? Yes. Real? Yes? Adaptive? Yes. Socially santioned and encouraged? Not really. Helpful to my career/status/the way others see me? No. Helpful to my mental and physical wellbeing? Yes.

Other reasons include Aquinas’ proofs - particularly the first cause argument. Also, I experience the universe without God as a place that is meaningless and full of unremitting horror. I’m not sure I would survive. The atheists no doubt would call me a coward and intellectually dishonest - but they are wrong.
 
I believe because the idea of God not existing scares the bejeebers out of me. I refuse to believe that life is meaningless, that after one dies, there s nothingness.

As St. Peter says, where are we to go, Jesus holds the keys to eternal life. Without God what’s the use ? A hundred years or so of living and then you die and disappear. No thanks !! Thank God, there is a God.

To believe that God does not exist means that all the saints and mystics were lying, that the thousands of miracles performed by Jesus, the Apostle and many saints were all hoaxes or illusions. I have more than enough proof to confirm my beliefs. I am as certain that Jesus is who He claims to be, as I am certain that I live in the USA.

And IF I’m wrong, then all is lost for everybody, because life is meaningless and there is no hope for anybody. You will simply live your life of a hundred years or so and disappear into nothing.

Nothing you ever did, say or do will matter to anyone, least of all to you because you will simply cease to exist. Even if you became a great person in history, what is the point ? I can’t think of a worse fate except maybe eternal punishment, and that too is part of the equation.

Far better to focus on the positive, God exists, Heaven exists. OF the 3 possibilities, God and Heaven, God and Hell, or no God and nothingness, I much prefer the first. It’s a pretty good gamble and great reward for just a little bit of faith.
 
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