The Catechism is stupid; Canon Law is stupid

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Church Militant:
Have you considered that this guy isn’t much of a friend if he says this kind of stuff about something as sacred to you as your religion?
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What’s wrong with hockey as a conversation topic? What’s wrong with your friend that he has nothing to talk about but the Catholic Church? You don’t think he wants to convert, do you?
Church Militant:
That’s one reason that A/C posters here get bent outta whack when I answer their questions. They wanna free pass to disparage the faith, but if I (GOD FORBID) point out their lack of respect or honesty then I’m are being “uncharitable” or “unchristian” or “harsh”…

It’s just a defence mechanism as a result of unresolved guilt. I reckon that, whatever it is, if a he/she can dish it out then he/she had better be able to take the same in kind.
 
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grandadmiralboo:
He is my friend, and I’d never abandon him, that’s not an option.
You want to change him. That’s not an option.
 
Church Militant:
Point out that many of the things that he says about the faith are wrong
You’re assuming this guy’s behaviour is rational.
Church Militant:
Tell him that your religion is off the table as a topic for discussion if he can’t respectfully discuss it.

You’re assuming that respect is something this guy is into.
Church Militant:
You need to realize that this guy may be the first casualty of your commitment to the truth.
Yep, the truth will set her free.
Church Militant:
Not that you’d abandon him
You think he’ll change for her? Then what option does she have but to bail?
Church Militant:
…but that he may just bail on you…
He won’t bail. Sounds like he’s getting what he wants. The only question I have is are there any children around?
 
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Strider:
If you still want him as a friend, then always return the ball to his court. When he says ridiculous things like, “the Catechism is stupid,” ask him for a quote or a paragraph number to illustrate his point. Do the same with canon law or any other outrageous statement he makes.
Actions speak louder than words. If it were me, I would politely excuse myself and leave.
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Strider:
He obviously wants to get a rise out of you.
He wants control.
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Strider:
Remain absolutely calm, even if you’re boiling inside.
Or know when she’s in over her head and pray the Memorare.
 
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grandadmiralboo:
Ok, how do I respond to stuff like that? I just had like a 2 hour conversation with a protestant friend of mine, who loves to be very offensive saying stuff like “rome craps on the scriptures” and calling stuff heresy. I just get so discouraged. And he never changes his mind about anything, even when i explain stuff really thoroughly. He says I believe in works-based-salvation, even when I explain that we can’t even do good works unless we’re “saved” first. He thinks I’m walking a very fine line. And he fears for my salvation. It’s just so frustrating. Can he really not see how logical Catholicism is??
Easy, ask him to prove what he says. Make him give you an issue by issue refutation of Catholic doctrine, with scriptural references and demonstrate that what he believes is what was believed by the early church. Tell him he can’t rely on Chick Tracts as evidence for anything (other than the fact that he cannot think for himself).
 
I know a few people like that. I always say “One of us is wrong. Hope you dont wait till judgement day to find out who!” or “Are you willing to bet your eternal life on it? cause I am.”
 
Dare I say it? Yes, I think I must. This “friend” is not a friend. A real friend who is truly only concerned with your salvation would be open to hearing what you have to say. Your “friend” is ONLY interested in berating your beliefs and winning an agrument. Don’t give him the satisfaction of debating him. Simply tell him that you will keep him in your prayers and leave him standing there. He’ll of course come back with the last word and say something like, “it is I who will pray for you” and that is fine. Give him the last word and shake the dust from your sandles. Know that not everyone seeks truth. Many enjoy causing chaos and hiding the truth from those that seek it. Christ was hated to the point of being put to death. We can only expect that we too will be hated by many for following Him.
 
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