The Catholic Church and Spiritual Gifts

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I’ve never seen anything like healing, prophecy or tongues speaking in any Catholic Church. Also, it looks like Catholics never pray aloud (aggressively), and worship as much as other churches. Lastly, Catholics pray for the souls of the dead. Does that have any effect on the deceased’s judgement? Well, I believe that once a person dies after hearing the gospel over and over, there’s no remission of sins and as such a person is going to be judged based on his life but not on the prayers offered God on behalf of them by others. Thanks for reading. I’ll be much grateful if you can share your ideas.
 
I read about 6 different “questions” here.

Rules of the forum limit one question per topic.

I will begin with the one that is troubling:
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Catholics never pray aloud (aggressively),
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The idea of aggressive prayer is foreign. As Christians, we come humbly before the throne of Grace.
 
Kenneyes said:
I’ve never seen anything like healing, prophecy or tongues speaking in any Catholic Church. Also, it looks like Catholics never pray aloud (aggressively), and worship as much as other churches. Lastly, Catholics pray for the souls of the dead. Does that have any effect on the deceased’s judgement? Well, I believe that once a person dies after hearing the gospel over and over, there’s no remission of sins and as such a person is going to be judged based on his life but not on the prayers offered God on behalf of them by others. Thanks for reading. I’ll be much grateful if you can share your ideas.
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How do you know that Catholics don’t pray as much as other churches? Just because we may be quieter about it doesn’t mean we aren’t praying.

We pray for the souls of the dead, because we don’t yet know if they are in heaven, purgatory, or hell. We won’t know until we ourselves die. Of course, if they are in hell, our prayers won’t help them. If they are in heaven, they obviously don’t need our prayers, but if they are in purgatory, then our prayers may shorten their time there and boost them on into Heaven. How can praying for the dead be a bad thing???

Yes, once a person dies, judgment is made, but the judgement of purgatory is not the final step, so we are encouraged to pray for those souls so that their journey comes to a quicker end. People in Purgatory are bound for heaven, but our prayers can shorten their time there…Not sure I’m explaining this well at all. I pray for my souls to get to purgatory, because then at least I’ll be in sight of the beautific vision. It might be painful waiting to arrive, but it won’t be as painful as total and complete separation from God.
 
It is my understanding that the whole of the Catholic mass is a prayer. So 10-15 minutes of homily and the rest of the mass being prayer seems kind of aggressive to me versus ( how long?) of listening to a protestant minister and a bunch of Amens throughout the service. I guess it’s all a matter of perspective. We see what we believe. I’ll take reverence over fainting in an aisle or playing with snakes any day.
 
Well, the rest of the mass which you say is for prayer involves just recital prayers. How much time is given for people to pray individually. It’s just about 30seconds during the prayer of the faithful.
 
I’ve been a Catholic my whole life but I’ve not seen any of them take place at least once in any Catholic Church!
 
The rest of the week. Together as a family but also individually. The Mass is a communal worship as the people of God.
 
If the form of Catholic is valid as well,then why is it that in catholic schools they ban or don’t give room for praying in tongues and people performing miracles. It’s done just in case you’re not aware.


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I’m not sure God has asked us to pray for the people we claim our in purgatory. I think it would be better if we spent time rather praying and preaching to the living. From 2 Corinthians 5:10 it’s what we did in on earth in our bodies that we will be judged with but not the prayers we are ‘aided’ with. As such, do your best to pray and help the living to know God but don’t wait until they die and then pray for them. Everyone had to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling. Philippians 2:12
 
Jesus Drives Out an Impure Spirit
21 They went to Capernaum, and when the Sabbath came, Jesus went into the synagogue and began to teach. 22 The people were amazed at his teaching, because he taught them as one who had authority, not as the teachers of the law. 23 Just then a man in their synagogue who was possessed by an impure spirit cried out, 24 “What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of God!”

25 “Be quiet!” said Jesus sternly. “Come out of him!” 26 The impure spirit shook the man violently and came out of him with a shriek.

Jesus did this on the sabbath and in the synagogue. Can you imagine Jesus tell him that go home and pray alone or with your family on any other day and the unclean spirit will leave you because this a communal worship??? What are you saying!
Also, verse 25 uses the word sternly showing aggresiveness and so I’m not sure it’s good to always pray almost silently as Catholics do.
 
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As I’ve already said, I’ve been catholic my whole life but I sometimes attend service or mass in other churches and so I know what I’m talking about in terms or prayer and worship. With how Catholics pray silently, I’m not sure the gifts of the spirit such as healing and tongues are released. It’s fine fine to pray silently in your heart but be honest has the pope or any catholic priest you’ve known ever told you to pray and ask the spirit for the gifts of tongues. I for one I got the gift of tongues during and Scripture Union meeting (which is not catholic) and I’m not sure with how Catholics pray silently there can be the release of such gifts because I’ve never seen or heard of any!
 
What you describe is an exorcism not individual prayer.

From what I remember, exorcisms in the Catholic Church are only done after physical and mental examinations have been done by medical doctors and psychologists. It is performed with only a couple of people around and not performed openly in public for the protection of the one being exorcised. The bishop asks one or more priests in his diocese to perform exorcisms. Contacts are through your parish priest and you wont get the number to the exorcist if you call the bishop’s office! As a very vise and old priest said: “If you believe you need an exorcism you likely wont. It is more likely that you have mental or something physical that are causing the problems.”

There is a small exorcism in the Rite of Baptism but a baptism is public in that the Church welcomes a new member into the Body of Christ.
 
I grew up in a church where everyone had mini-seizures once in a while, so I’m quite familiar with what you’re talking about. I don’t think it matters whether you pray aloud or silently, as long as it doesn’t interrupt the atmosphere of mass.
 
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I’ve never seen anything like healing, prophecy or tongues speaking in any Catholic Church. Also, it looks like Catholics never pray aloud (aggressively), and worship as much as other churches. Lastly, Catholics pray for the souls of the dead. Does that have any effect on the deceased’s judgement? Well, I believe that once a person dies after hearing the gospel over and over, there’s no remission of sins and as such a person is going to be judged based on his life but not on the prayers offered God on behalf of them by others. Thanks for reading. I’ll be much grateful if you can share your ideas.
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Catholics never pray loudly? You should travel more friend, see more people. Then perhaps you will make more truthful statement.
 
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it that in catholic schools they ban or don’t give room for praying in tongues and people performing miracles
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Your link is the basic “No Purgatory” speech. Not a word about Catholic schools banning “people performing miracles” etc.

Please, present your evidence where Catholic schools act in the way that you claim.

Oh, and BTW, only God can “perform miracles”.
 
You see, the Church follows the command of Scripture that everything is to be done “decently and in order”. Christ is not the author of confusion. Liturgy is not some anything goes free-for-all.

Perhaps Mr Cumbie’s explanation of Mass will help?

 
The greatest gifts of the spirit are those which have to do with true holiness. The Catholic Church understands there to be seven: wisdom, understanding, counsel, fortitude, knowledge, piety, and fear of the Lord. The primary gifts, that we’re given at Baptism and are expected to grow in, are faith, hope, and love, the most important being love. And motivated by love we become more inclined to give than to receive, to covet gifts for others rather than acquiring them for ourselves.

And true spirituality generally results in a quiet and peaceful soul, not trying to put on a demonstration of holiness, a soul that blesses God by its reflection of Him.
 
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It’s well established in the Bible that Love must lead .
Make love your aim, and earnestly desire the spiritual gifts, especially that you may prophesy.
1 Corinthians 14:1
But others gifts such as speaking in tongues and prophecies have been totally ignored by the Catholic Church unless you can tell me Catholics ever pray in tongues at church.
 
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The most impressive healing miracles have occurred to Catholics not just this past century of Mother Teresa and Padre Pio and Fatima but all the way back for the last 2000 years. And yes I have witnessed healing myself. You can believe what you want but your claim that Catholics don’t witness healing is very much false.
 
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