The Catholic Church is like the "Hotel California"?

[coyote]

You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.
Without committing mortal sin?

 

[Melanie01]

…and like the prodigal son you can always return to its loving embrace

 

[Jonah]

You have to believe that the Catholic church is the true church of God, and if you leave it knowing this, then it is considered a mortal sin.

The loop hole, I’m thinking, is if you truly believed that it was the True church of God you would never leave it. If you do then it would be because there was doubt.

How can one leave the Church of Christ ( ) knowing that it is the true church? IF you ask anyone that has left the church I’m sure they would confess that it is not the true church … Well, that’s the answer I’ve received when I’ve asked XCatholics about this…

 

[Andreas_Hofer]

Jonah:

You have to believe that the Catholic church is the true church of God, and if you leave it knowing this, then it is considered a mortal sin.

The loop hole, I’m thinking, is if you truly believed that it was the True church of God you would never leave it. If you do then it would be because there was doubt.

How can one leave the Church of Christ ( ) knowing that it is the true church? IF you ask anyone that has left the church I’m sure they would confess that it is not the true church … Well, that’s the answer I’ve received when I’ve asked XCatholics about this…

Satan knew perfectly well what he was rejecting when he chose unbridled autonomy over union with God.

 

[HappyCatholic01]

In fairness, Satan was an angel.

Flawed humans are not.

Which is not to say whether or not I agree with the theme of this thread either way,

 

[Della]

coyote:

You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave.
Without committing mortal sin?

The reason one can never leave is that the trinitarian baptism leaves an indelible mark of grace on the soul–it can’t be erased.

In order for someone to have committed a mortal sin in leaving he would have to renounce the Church’s teaching (in one or more areas) with full knowledge, full will, and full intention.

Mortal sin is always mortal sin, but one’s culpability of it is another matter entirely.

 

[JimCalvin]

Thank God (Gott Sie Dank) that it is difficult to leave the Church that our Lord founded. The difficulty provides a buffer for our obstinate wills.

 

[Frank_Roman]

Hotel California is a Satanic song… it is sung at black masses.

And in the master’s chambers
They gathered for the feast
They stab it with their steely knives
But they just can’t kill the beast
Last thing I remember
I was running for the door
I had to find the passage back to the place I was before
Relax said the nightman
We are programed to recieve
You can check out any time you like
But you can never leave

 

[Jim]

coyote:

The Catholic Church is like the “Hotel California”?

Reflecting on some other lyrics on the song, I’ve concluded that. . .
. . .if there was a church that had “Mirrors on the Ceiling” and they tried to consecrate “Pink Champagne on ice”, that would be a church with some serious liturgical abuses!

Sadly, I’ll bet that both of these were tried in some American Catholic churches at one time or another during the last 40 years. . .

 

[Jonah]

The reason one can never leave is that the trinitarian baptism leaves an indelible mark of grace on the soul–it can’t be erased.

I believe that once baptised ( in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) we are sealed with the Holy Spirit. Even if done in aother denomination. Someone who has doubts about the Catholic church can leave and continue to be Christian in another denomination.

Doesn’t it make you kind of wonder …why would someone leave the true church of Christ? In my work place there are 3 women that have left the Catholich church for non-denominatiol churches. They proclaim the same thing, “I was in the world until I met Jesus.” The thing is they found Him outside the Catholic church.

 

[whatevergirl]

If you leave the Church, though…you can always come back, by using your ‘key’…Confession.

Does anyone know if the Church ever ex-communicates someone anymore for certain mortal sins? I think a local priest has been ex-communicated because he broke out into his own church, not following true Catholic Doctrine, and supposedly…anyone who follows this guy, is committing a mortal sin, too! I was like…woah, when I read that.

I think what happened was he was ‘de-frocked,’ because he was showing up to mass, drunk. (He was the priest at a nearby church) And, so, he decided to go out on his own.

He’s supposedly holding ‘mass’ at a restaurant? It’s pretty bizarre…but apparently there are a lot of people who liked him when he was the priest at that church, so he has quite a following…

Besides cases like this–anyone know if there are instances where ppl get ex-comm?

 

[coyote]

Thanks everyone for your replys.

 

[gelsbern]

Here I thought this was going to be yet another thread about the Pian Mass and the Pauline Mass

“We haven’t had that spirit here since nineteen sixty nine”