The Catholic & idolatry myth

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twopekinguys said:
It took me a second to find your site, the link didn’t work for me, but I found it through google, so it’s all good.

You’re right, they are Catholic. However, I think them showing their Papal blessing is a little misleading.

I had to zoom in on the picture, but it shows **they **received the Apostolic Blessing from the Pope, not their “ministry”.

I’ll have to do some research on some of the things they are offering. I have never heard of prosperity beans for example.

I also question if these relics or sacramentals are as rare as what they say they are. Since some of their suggested donations are only $10.00.

I’m not saying they are right or wrong, I am totally caught off guard by this, and will definitely do some research on it.

Thanks for sharing it.
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Ok, I’ve done some preliminary research.

The site you are referring to is offering these as “sacramentals”.

I found this on Wikipedia (I’m not a big fan of Wiki, but this is pretty accurate)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacramentals

So, in essence, even though they may be pieces of cloth, Catholics don’t believe they are providing healings, etc. like some of the more evangelicals do.

I’m still checking on some of the things they offered. I am still amazed at the prosperity beans. That one has me bewildered.
 
brkn1 said:
I agree with this post.
Paul defined idolatry as what you pointed out about TV etc. taking God’s rightful place in our lives.
Even the making of (imagined) images of what is in Heaven is biblically forbidden.
A statue or image of Jesus Christ makes it possible for a person worshipping God to mistakenly worship that image in place of the True God. One can claim that they do not worship that image, but the human mind might still do so when praying etc.
Pagan temples had such images and that makes the use of any image in a church a possible idol. A walk through many churches today would present a similar setting as those pagan temples did with all of the statues and images. That is why some point to such settings as idolatry.
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Anyone who has been in a modern Catholic Church knows we no longer worship statues-we worship banners…
 
Is there anyone here when they see a Buddhist lighting incense to a statue of Buddha not think it is idolatry?
 
Rawb said:
Yes, but the Eucharist IS God, so why wouldn’t we worship Him?

To sistermouse, if you can’t get to a Catholic Church (for a legitimate reason), you don’t have to go to Church. IMHO, it is better to not attend church then to regularly attend a protestant community’s service. It used to even be a sin to attend a protestant service, let alone regularly (and I’ve been told now it’s only OK if you’re attending for an academic or cultural reason, or to attend a valid baptism or marriage.)
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That is idolatry in the nth degree from anyone’s perspective, calling a cracker God. See John 6:63

I realize that to a Catholic it is not, but to the viewing world it is and as the largest Christian denomination in the world; shouldn’t you be setting an example. For instance, it is okay to drink alcohol as long as you are not getting buzzed…right? My pastor will not drink, not because it is not biblical, but because it may send a message to the congregation that hey, if the pastor drinks, so can I and this person could be young and have alcoholic tendencies; therefore not everything is profitable.

Likewise, seeing all the time, money and energy spent on pilgrimages to see mircle places, like Fatima, or some place where some miracle took place and seeing pictures of Catholics bowing, kneeling, holding hands toward heaven before a statute or image. What does this say to the unbelieving world; they worship statutes and images and look like pagans. This is not being critical; I’m just pointing out a fact.
 
Hisalone said:
So that is not idolatry to you?
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How would I know if i didnt know what the persons intention was? Did they consider Buddah a god? Did somebody break wind and they were trying to disguise the odor? Did they just like the smell of incense?

The mere act of burning incense is neutral.
 
What about the adoration of Mary statues, having saints’ relics in church basements, etc?
 
Nominefili said:
What about the adoration of Mary statues, having saints’ relics in church basements, etc?
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I don’t adore Mary, statues of Mary, saints or statues of saints in the basement, in the cupboard, under the kitchen table or on the night stand… so I am not concern about it.

God bless you
 
RickHolland said:
That is idolatry in the nth degree from anyone’s perspective, calling a cracker God. See John 6:63

I realize that to a Catholic it is not, but to the viewing world it is and as the largest Christian denomination in the world; shouldn’t you be setting an example. For instance, it is okay to drink alcohol as long as you are not getting buzzed…right? My pastor will not drink, not because it is not biblical, but because it may send a message to the congregation that hey, if the pastor drinks, so can I and this person could be young and have alcoholic tendencies; therefore not everything is profitable.

Likewise, seeing all the time, money and energy spent on pilgrimages to see mircle places, like Fatima, or some place where some miracle took place and seeing pictures of Catholics bowing, kneeling, holding hands toward heaven before a statute or image. What does this say to the unbelieving world; they worship statutes and images and look like pagans. This is not being critical; I’m just pointing out a fact.
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Where did you ever get the idea that Catholics considered crackers god? tat is just about the silliest thing i have ever read!

As far as kneeling or making pligrmages i guess it is easy to mock that that you do not understand.
 
Roman_Catholic said:
I don’t adore Mary, statues of Mary, saints or statues of saints in the basement, in the cupboard, under the kitchen table or on the night stand… so I am not concern about it.

God bless you
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Well as someone who spent about 6 months in RCIA, I’ve seen all of those things in the Roman church. So perhaps you personally don’t do it, but your church condones it.
 
estesbob said:
How would I know if i didnt know what the persons intention was? Did they consider Buddah a god? Did somebody break wind and they were trying to disguise the odor? Did they just like the smell of incense?

The mere act of burning incense is neutral.
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OK
 
Nominefili said:
Well as someone who spent about 6 months in RCIA, I’ve seen all of those things in the Roman church. So perhaps you personally don’t do it, but your church condones it.
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Oh I get it-we adore statues we just dont know it. And you who supposedly spent 6 months in RCIA know better than us who belong to the Church. Makes perfect sense to me!:confused:
 
Nominefili said:
Well as someone who spent about 6 months in RCIA, I’ve seen all of those things in the Roman church. So perhaps you personally don’t do it, but your church condones it.
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You didnt bury a statue of St Joseph in your yard the last time you tried selling your house?
 
Nominefili said:
My neighbor for one. She and her family attend the nearby Roman church and have a statue of Mary in their yard to pray for intercession.
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So they dont adore the satue of Mary, correct? can you show us where the Church teaches us to practice idolotry and /or adore staues?

Do you have any pictures of your wife and children ? Is that idolotry?
 
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