The Church in Hong Kong

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I just returned from a business trip to Hong Kong and I was pleased to see how well the Catholic Church is doing!! I went to Mass and it was packed! There must have been about 200 people attending Mass. One peculiarity, though, I only counted 5 men in the entire congretation (six if you count the priest). Needless to say, I felt like a stranger in a strange land, the only white male in a sea of asian women. Does anybody know why there were no men?
 
The church you went to wasn’t Catholic.

My understanding is that the Catholic Church in China is underground and persecuted. There’s an official “Patriotic Catholic Church,” allowed by the government, but it’s not loyal to the Pope and is pro-abortion.
 
Eric,

Ryan was in Hong Kong, where the Church is not underground. The fears voiced by the international business community during the days prior to the transfer of it from British to Chinese rule were convincing to the Chinese government, insofar as they saw a real risk to the Colony’s continued economic viability. Because HK is such an international place of commerce and such a factor in bolstering the Chinese economy, the Chinese government has been not only disinclined to, but has studiously avoided, imposition of the types of restrictions that it routinely employs in mainland China. Thus, Ryan may as likely have been in a RC church as in a Patriotic Catholic church - in fact, it’s probably more likely that he was in the former.

Ryan,

The lack of men in the congregation is a cultural thing, as it is in the congregations in many Hispanic countries. While men will describe and consider themselves to be “Catholics” (or whatever other Western religion), they tend to be infrequent participants in actual church services. That is not true in in the instances of Eastern religions, such as Buddhist, etc., but I am uncertain why.

Many years,

Neil
 
Neil:

Thanks for the correction!

Ryan:

How was Mass celebrated there? Any more reverently than it usually is in the *Novus Ordo * here in America?
 
I’m positive it was a Catholic Church. Hong Kong has enjoyed a certain amount of autonomy since the transfer in 1997. It is in fact, officially Called Hong Kong Special Administrative Region. It has a different monetary system, a seperate legislative body and unrestricted religious freedom. Only at the highest levels does the Chinese Government get involved (usually matters of military defense, etc…)
The Mass we went to was held in English and is faithful to the current order of Mass. There are some very interesting subtleties (besides the lack of men). One takes place during the sign of peace. Rather than shake hands, we bowed to each other (I wonder if this was a result of the recent SARS scare, or whether it is cultural.)

Overall, I was pleased with the experience. First off, I was happy to be able to celebrate the Eucharist so far away from home, and second, it was refreshing to see such a packed house. it took us close to 20 minutes to get out it was so full. The crowd waiting for the next Mass was just as large.
 
I should also note that the underground Catholic Church in the PRC commands more faithful than the Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association (I should also note that the underground Catholic Church in the PRC commands more faithful than the Chinese Patriotic Catholic Association (中国天主教爱国会), though I understand there is considerable overlap.

And the Church is very much present in Hong Kong), though I understand there is considerable overlap.

And the Church is very much present in Hong Kong.
 
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