Abu << There is a theory of gravity. We can all experience gravity. To compare the theory of gravity to evolution is absurd. Evolution is NOT based on observation. No one has ever seen evolution. We have all experienced gravity. >>
There is a theory of evolution. We can all experience evolution, through the flu and other diseases that quickly change through evolution. To compare the theory of gravity with evolution is exactly and precisely correct. They are the same as far as theories go in science. Evolution is BASED on observation. Natural selection has been well-tested in both field and laboratory.
“Let me try to make crystal clear what is established beyond reasonable doubt, and what needs further study, about evolution. Evolution as a process that has always gone on in the history of the earth can be doubted only by those who are ignorant of the evidence or are resistant to evidence, owing to emotional blocks or to plain bigotry. By contrast, the mechanisms that bring evolution about certainly need study and clarification. There are no alternatives to evolution as history that can withstand critical examination. Yet we are constantly learning new and important facts about evolutionary mechanisms.” (Theodosius Dobzhansky, “Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution” American Biology Teacher, March 1973)
“…there has been a confusion, partly deliberate, of the fact that organisms have evolved with theories about the detailed mechanics of the process. The facts of evolution are clear and are not disputed by any serious scientific worker. The universe is over 11 billion years old, and the earth, in particular, is over 4 billion. That is a fact. Life on earth is at least 2.5 billion years old, and, as new evidence accumulates, the best estimate of the origin of life gets pushed further and further into the past. That too is a fact. It is also a fact that there were no mammals or birds 200 million years ago and no vertebrates 600 million years ago, while there are no dinosaurs now. Finally, it is a fact that under conditions that have existed on earth for the last billion years, at least, all living organisms arise from previously living organisms. So, the present complex living forms have evolved by an unbroken and continuous process from the simplest living forms of the pre-Cambrian era. To assert, on the contrary, that the earth and life on it are a paltry ten or hundred thousand years old and that the complex forms living today arose in an instant from unorganized matter is in contradiction not simply with the corpus of biological knowledge but with all scientific knowledge of the physical world. To deny evolution is to deny physics, chemistry, and astronomy, as well as biology.” (Richard Lewontin, March 1982, Introduction to Scientists Confront Creationism [W.W. Norton, 1983] )
“…there is general agreement among them that the first organism dwelt on this planet about 3.5 - 4 billion years ago.
Since it has been demonstrated that all living organisms on earth are genetically related, it is virtually certain that all living organisms have descended from this first organism. Converging evidence from many studies in the physical and biological sciences furnishes mounting support for some theory of evolution to account for the development and diversification of life on earth, while controversy continues over the pace and mechanisms of evolution.” (ITC signed and endorsed by Cardinal Ratzinger in 2004, who became Pope in 2005)
You cannot measure the gravity for every atom or every star and planet. You cannot conduct an experiment for gravity on the Sun. You do not witness gravity on the Sun. We can’t stand and jump up and down on the Sun. Maybe that means there is no gravity on the Sun. It is ONLY a theory after all. Furthermore, if the theory of gravity were true, it would show that the sun’s gravitational force on the moon is much stronger than the earth’s gravitational force on the moon, so the moon would go around the sun. Anybody can look up at night and see the obvious gaps in gravity theory. Gravity totally fails to explain why Saturn has rings and Jupiter does not. It utterly fails to account for obesity. In fact, what it does “explain” is far out-weighed by what it does not explain.
Do you now see how futile this discussion is? People who reject evolution know nothing of science, nothing of logic, nothing of history. Someone needs to read a book before we have another of these 10 to 20 page threads on evolution.
Phil P
