The Closing of "Eastern Christianity"

[zerocrossing]

Well, the Orthodox church near us is Greek, and they don’t generally rebaptize Catholics either (unless the Catholic asks to be rebaptized, of course).

GOA = Greek Orthodox Church in America. It does not re-baptize. I was wondering about the church IN Greece, which is a different jurisdictional entity and may have different practices. If you’re located in the US, then it’s probably a GOA church.

 

[Milliardo]

GOA = Greek Orthodox Church in America. It does not re-baptize. I was wondering about the church IN Greece, which is a different jurisdictional entity and may have different practices. If you’re located in the US, then it’s probably a GOA church.

Ah, okay. I am not sure what the practice in Greece is then. I am not in the U.S. though, but in the Philippines, which is under the Patriarchate of Constantinople.

 

[zerocrossing]

Ah, okay. I am not sure what the practice in Greece is then. I am not in the U.S. though, but in the Philippines, which is under the Patriarchate of Constantinople.

GOA is also under the Patriarchate of Constantinople. But the Church of Greece is an autocephalous national church (i.e. it’s not under Constantinople; it has its own hierarch).

 

[valient_Lucy]

But, let’s not debate whether or not this is a permitted debate. . . that would be a most uninteresting conversation!

Tag: EOOO

Not nearly as uninteresting as the debate over whether or not we should debate whether or not this is a permitted debate.

 

[lak611]

Not nearly as uninteresting as the debate over whether or not we should debate whether or not this is a permitted debate.

That is too funny!

 

[Milliardo]

GOA is also under the Patriarchate of Constantinople. But the Church of Greece is an autocephalous national church (i.e. it’s not under Constantinople; it has its own hierarch).

Well, AFAIK the Church of Greece and Constantinople have been at odds with each other over some issues, so I don’t think they’ll about to follow Constantinople in simply chrismating Catholics anytime soon. Again, I am not familiar with the Church of Greece’s stance on this one.

 

[steve_b]

I’m going to be a troublemaker as usual and suggest a reason why this happened.

Roman Catholics (yes, the “Roman” is relevant here–I am not talking about Eastern Catholics) are roughly in the same position with regard to Orthodox that ecumenical Protestants, particularly Anglicans, are in with regard to Catholics. In both cases, you have one side that wants to emphasize the similarities, and the other that stresses the differences. In both cases, the folks emphasizing the differences have a more uncomplicated claim to continuity with ancient tradition, and tend to be rather snooty about it. The folks emphasizing the similarities desperately want to gain recognition from the other side, and accuse the other side of a lack of charity and of a deep-rooted arrogance.

I’ve been on this forum for 4 years and in spite of all the rules in place, the moderator’s patience wore thin too many times because of the hilighted words above that became so often the polemic style on those threads. This is a Catholic forum. CAF doesn’t owe you or anyone your own private corner of this apostolate at CAF expense to run your own agenda…

Edwin:

This is a very embarrassing situation for a Catholic apologetics board. Our esteemed moderator (I don’t mean that sarcastically–I disagree with this decision but I think the moderators do a great job generally) claimed that the board is being closed because it has become subject to “fights.” Well, isn’t the N-C board subject to “fights”? The problem is that the Eastern Christianity forum was supposed to show the basic unity between East and West, because that unity is essential for Catholic claims. In fact, the board demonstrated that no such unity exists.

The moderator explained very clearly and you demonstrate why that forum was closed and renamed.

Edwin:

A Protestant who first encounters Catholicism and is impressed by the Fathers, the Liturgy, the Tradition in general, and then encounters Orthodoxy, has an experience of deja vu. A naive Protestant might wonder if there are in fact infinite gradations of churches, each one with more pretensions of antiquity than the last. This is why you so often find Protestants becoming first Roman Catholic, then Eastern Catholic, then Orthodox. (A Catholic priest who was my professor in grad school discouraged me from becoming Catholic in part because he was afraid I would do just this.)

That conversion door swings both ways. And the Catholic Church is growing globally.

Edwin:

If it were up to me, there would be three “non-Catholic” forums–one for the Eastern Churches not in communion with Rome (whom Rome recognizes as having valid apostolic succession), one for Trinitarian Protestants (who have valid baptism, according to Rome), and one for everyone else. But I’m not running this board–and that’s probably a good thing, apart from the obvious disqualifier that I’m not Catholic!

Edwin

I might have the figure wrong, but I think I saw where there are 1 million posts/month here. It’s the biggest single apostolate on the web.

I tell you what, when you can fund your own apostolate on the web, and it becomes as successful as this one, set aside a corner for Catholics exclusively. Then come back and talk about how CAF should be run. Until then, recognize that to be here isn’t a right it’s a priveledge for everyone.

 

[anon50111284]

Folks,

There is already a thread in the EC forum, essentially covering the purported topic of this thread.

THREAD CLOSED.