The Collapse of a Christian Pillar

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Voice of an angel:
youtube.com/watch?v=PEHJY0T9RsQ

When I said monks can speak with God, St Mary, saints angels I didn’t joke and here is actual music recorded from angelic choir. Heavenly music recorded from actual angels by St Nectarios that was a priest and monk in Orthodox Christian Church por Orthodox Church:

“Agni Parthene (Gr. Αγνή Παρθένε is a non-liturgical hymn composed in Greek by St. Nectarios of Aegina in the 19th century during his tenure as director of the Rizarios Theological School of Athens. St. Nektarios liked to compose hymns in honor of the Mother of God to deepen his personal prayer and relationship with her. The tradition passed down at the monastery of St. Nektarios, in Aegina, Greece, is that the Lady herself appeared before him and requested that he record on paper a particular hymn the angelic choirs were about to sing. This hymn was the “Agni Parthene”. The original script can still be viewed on his prayer table in his bedroom at this monastery.
The original melody to this hymn was composed by an Athonite hymnographer who is said to also have had a vision of the Virgin Mary prior to composing the work. The recording of this melody by the Monks of Simonopetra has contributed significantly to the popularization of the hymn.”

youtube.com/watch?v=IomxvOTf-So I think in Greek.
youtube.com/watch?v=L4E3ToVNOD4 in English
youtube.com/watch?v=pBbYN73SXPQ in Romanian
 
As Abraham called Word of God as LORD God, orthodox Christians do the same. Holy Trinity means God , Word of God or Christ and Spirit of God or Holy Spirit, ONE GOD, Three persons.
God is not limited like humans, one man one conscience or person.
To understand better think at somebody being in a 3D room and a 2D cinema screen universe. If one finger will be put into 2D Universe, 2D entities will say ONE, if Three fingers willbe put the 2D entities will say THREE but actually is one even if to the 2D UNiverse looks like three.

God revealed himself as Holy Trinity in Old Testament and New Testament , God , Word of God and Spirit of God and many Christians say, even if don’t comprehend how is this, because this is revelation form God we believe it, and because God revealed that we need to call every person of Holy Trinity as Abraham did, God, we do so. Also because it was revealed to us that by worshiping ONE God we need to worship every manifestation of God or every person of God, or we do so.

Ancient book about Adam and Eve written before even Judaism and Moses , like the one approximately named Fight of Adam and Eve with Satan , speak extensively about Word of God.

sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe007.htm
5 Therefore had God pity on them; and when He saw them fallen before the gate of the garden,** He sent His Word **unto father Adam and Eve, and raised them from their fallen state.

sacred-texts.com/bib/fbe/fbe008.htm
GOD said to Adam, "I have ordained on this earth days and years, and thou and thy seed shall dwell and walk in it, until the days and years are fulfilled; when I shall send the Word that created thee, and against which thou hast transgressed, the Word that made thee come out of the garden and that raised thee when thou wast fallen.

2 Yea, the Word that will again save thee when the five days and a half are fulfilled."

3 But when Adam heard these words from God, and of the great five days and a half, he did not understand the meaning of them.

4 For Adam was thinking that there would be but five days and a half for him, to the end of the world.

5 And Adam wept, and prayed God to explain it to him.

6 Then God in His mercy for Adam who was made after His own image and similitude, explained to him, that these were 5,000 and 500 years; and how One would then come and save him and his seed.

7 But God had before that made this covenant with our father, Adam, in the same terms, ere he came out of the garden, when he was by the tree whereof Eve took the fruit and gave it him to eat.
 
Ben Masada,

Here is another: www.israelcatholic.com…that is based in Jerusalem, Israel.
 
Ben Masada is quite compelling in his arguments…Jewish people laugh when they say when you have an argument between two Jews you actually have 3.

I wonder what his impression is of Hebrew Catholics and those in Jerusalem, Israel Catholic. I would think they could equally respond to him in the same compelling way…
 
The Orthodox Liturgy is actually the Liturgy of St John Chrysostom written in year around 380, so its actually the Liturgy of Primary Church.I did heard that in several Orthodox Churches, where in some days are served the Liturgy of St James and Liturgy of Apostle and Evnagelist Mark. I hope Catholic Church will add prayers for departed in their Mass.
 
New Testament showa also the Life of Word of God on Earth. These are 300 prophecyes about the Word of God and fulfillment in the New Testament. In left is verse from Old Testament showing prophecies and on right the Verse from New Testament showing the completion of Prophecy:

"Over 300 Messianic Prophecies

Gen. 3:15…He will bruise Satan’s head…Heb. 2:14, 1 Jn. 3:18
Gen. 9:26,27…The God of Shem will be the Son of Shem…Lu. 3:36
Gen. 12:3…As Abraham’s seed,will bless all nations…Acts. 3:25,26
Gen. 12:7…The Promise made to Abraham’s Seed…Gal. 3:16
Gen. 14:18…A priest after Melchizedek…Heb. 6:20
Gen. 14:18…A King also…Heb. 7:2
Gen. 14:18…The Last Supper foreshadowed…Mt. 26:26-29
Gen. 17:19…The Seed of Isaac…Rom. 9:7
Gen. 22:8…The Lamb of God promised…Jn. 1:29
Gen. 22:18…As Isaac’s seed, will bless all nations…Gal. 3:16
Gen.26:2-5…The Seed of Isaac promised as the Redeemer…Heb.11:18
Gen. 49:10…The time of His coming…Lu. 2:1-7; Gal. 4:4
Gen. 49:10…The Seed of Judah…Lu. 3:33
Gen. 49:10…Called Shiloh or One Sent…Jn. 17:3
Gen. 49:10…To come before Judah lost identity…Jn. 11:47-52
Gen. 49:10…To Him shall the obedience of the people be…Jn. 10:16
 
Ex. 3:13,14…The Great “I Am”…Jn. 4:26
Ex. 12:5…A Lamb without blemish…1 Pet. 1:19
Ex. 12:13…The blood of the Lamb saves from wrath…Rom. 5:8
Ex. 12:21-27…Christ is our Passover…1 Cor. 5;7
Ex. 12:46…Not a bone of the Lamb to be broken…Jn. 19:31-36
Ex. 15:2…His exaltation predicted as Yeshua…Acts 7:55,56
Ex. 15:11…His Character-Holiness…Luke 1:35; Acts 4:27
Ex. 17:6…The Spiritual Rock of Israel…1 Cor. 10;4
Ex. 33:19…His Character-Merciful…Lu. 1:72
 
Lev.14:11…The leper cleansed-Sign to priesthood…Lu.5:12-14; Acts 6:7
Lev.16:15-17…Prefigures Christ’s once-for-all death…Heb. 9:7-14
Lev.16:27…Suffering outside the Camp…Mt. 27:33; Heb. 13:11, 12
Lev.17:11…The Blood-the life of the flesh…Mt. 26;28; Mk. 10:45
Lev.17:11…It is the blood that makes atonement…1 Jn. 3:14-18
Lev.23:36-37…The Drink-offering: “If any man thirst.” …Jn. 19:31-36
 
Num. 9:12…Not a bone of Him broken…John 19:31-36
Num. 21:9…The serpent on a pole-Christ lifted up…Jn. 3:14-18
Num. 24:17…Time: “I shall see him, but not now.”…Gal. 4:4
 
Deut. 18:15…“This is of a truth that prophet.”…Jn. 6:14
Deut. 18:15-16…“Had ye believed Moses, ye would believe me.”…Jn. 5:45-47
Deut. 18:18…Sent by the Father to speak His word…Jn. 8:28, 29
Deut. 18:19…Whoever will not hear must bear his sin…Jn. 12:15,
Deut. 21:23…Cursed is he that hangs on a tree…Gal. 3:10-13
 
Prophecies about Word of God or Christ

Ruth 4:4-9…Christ, our kinsman, has redeemed us…Eph. 1:3-7
 
1 Sam. 2:10…Shall be an anointed King to the Lord…Mt. 28:18; Jn. 12:15
2 Sam. 7:12…David’s Seed…Mt. 1:1
2 Sam. 7:14a…The Son of God… Lu. 1:32
2 Sam. 7:16…David’s house established forever…Lu. 3:31; Rev. 22:16
 
2 Ki. 2:11…The bodily ascension to heaven illustrated…Lu. 24:51
 
1 Chr. 17:11…David’s Seed…Mt. 1:1; 9:27
1 Chr. 17:12, 13a…To reign on David’s throne forever…Lu. 1:32, 33
1 Chr. 17:13a…“I will be His Father, He…my Son.”…Heb. 1:5
 
Psa. 2:1-3…The enmity of kings foreordained…Acts 4:25-28
Psa. 2:2…To own the title, Anointed (Christ)…Acts 2:36
Psa. 2:6…His Character-Holiness…Jn. 8:46; Rev. 3:7
Psa. 2:6…To own the title King…Mt. 2:2
Psa. 2:7…Declared the Beloved Son…Mt. 3;17
Psa. 2:7, 8…The Crucifixion and Resurrection intimated…Acts 13:29-33
Psa. 2:12…Life comes through faith in Him…Jn. 20:31
Psa. 8:2…The mouths of babes perfect His praise…Mt. 21:16
Psa. 8:5, 6…His humiliation and exaltation…Lu. 24:50-53; 1 Cor. 15:27
Psa. 16:10…Was not to see corruption…Acts 2:31
Psa. 16:9-11…Was to arise from the dead…Jn. 20:9
Psa. 17;15…The resurrection predicted…Lu. 24:6
Psa. 22:1…Forsaken because of sins of others…2 Cor. 5:21
Psa. 22:1…Words spoken from Calvary, “My God…” Mk. 15:34
Psa. 22:2…Darkness upon Calvary…Mt. 27:45
Psa. 22:7…They shoot out the lip and shake the head…Mt. 27:39
Psa. 22:8…&quotHe trusted in God, let Him deliver Him"…Mt. 27:43
Psa. 22:9…Born the Saviour…Lu. 2:7
Psa. 22:14…Died of a broken (ruptured)heart…Jn. 19:34
Psa. 22:14,15…Suffered agony on Calvary…Mk. 15:34-37
Psa. 22:15…He thirsted…Jn. 19:28
Psa. 22:16…They pierced His hands and His feet…Jn. 19:34,37;20:27
Psa. 22:17,18…Stripped Him before the stares of men…Lu. 23:34,35
Psa. 22:18…They parted His garments…Jn. 19:23,24
Psa. 22:20,21…He committed Himself to God…Lu.23:46
Psa. 22:20,21…Satanic power bruising the Redeemer’s heel…Heb. 2:14
Psa. 22:22…His Resurrection declared…Jn. 20:17
Psa. 22:27…He shall be the governor of the nations…Col 1:16
Psa. 22:31…&quotIt is finished"…Jn. 19:30
Psa. 23:1…&quotI am the Good Shephard&quot…Jn. 10:11
Psa. 24:3…His exaltation predicted…Acts 1:11; Phil. 2:9
Psa. 30:3…His resurrection predicted…Acts 2:32
Psa. 31:5…&quotInto thy hands I commit my spirit"…Lu. 23:46
Psa. 31:11…His acquaintances fled from Him…Mk. 14:50
Psa. 31:13…They took counsel to put Him to death…Jn. 11:53
Psa. 31:14,15…" He trusted in God, let Him deliver him&quot…Mt. 27:43
Psa. 34:20…Not a bone of Him broken…Jn 19:31-36
Psa. 35:11…False witnesses rose up against Him…Mt. 26:59
Psa. 35:19…He was hated without a cause…Jn. 15:25
Psa. 38:11…His friends stood afar off…Lu. 23:49
Psa. 40:2-5…The joy of His resurrection predicted…Jn. 20:20
Psa. 40:6-8…His delight-the will of the Father…Jn. 4:34
Psa. 40:9…He was to preach the Righteousness in Israel…Mt. 4:17
Psa. 40:14…Confronted by adversaries in the Garden…Jn. 18:4-6
Psa. 41:9…Betrayed by a familiar friend…Jn. 13:18
Psa. 45:2…Words of Grace come from His lips…Lu. 4:22
Psa. 45:6…To own the title, God or Elohim…Heb. 1:8
Psa. 45:7…A special anointing by the Holy Spirit…Mt.3:16; Heb.1:9
Psa. 45:7,8…Called the Christ (Messiah or Anointed)…Lu. 2:11
Psa. 55:12-14…Betrayed by a friend, not an enemy…Jn. 13:18
Psa. 55:15…Unrepentant death of the Betrayer…Mt. 27:3-5; Acts 1:16-19
Psa. 68:18…To give gifts to men…Eph. 4:7-16
Psa. 68:18…Ascended into Heaven…Lu. 24:51
Psa. 69:4…Hated without a cause…Jn. 15:25
Psa. 69:8…A stranger to own brethren…Lu. 8;20,21
Psa. 69:9…Zealous for the Lord’s House…Jn. 2:17
Psa. 69:14-20…Messiah’s anguish of soul before crucifixion…Mt. 26:36-45
Psa. 69:20…&quotMy soul is exceeding sorrowful.&quot…Mt. 26:38
Psa. 69:21…Given vinegar in thirst…Mt. 27:34
Psa. 69:26…The Saviour given and smitten by God…Jn. 17:4; 18:11
Psa. 72:10,11…Great persons were to visit Him…Mt. 2:1-11
Psa. 72:16…The corn of wheat to fall into the Ground…Jn. 12:24
Psa. 72:17…His name, Yinon, will produce offspring…Jn. 1:12,13
Psa. 72:17…All nations shall be blessed by Him…Acts 2:11,12,41
Psa. 78:1.2…He would teach in parables…Mt. 13:34-35
Psa. 78:2b…To speak the Wisdom of God with authority…Mt. 7:29
Psa. 88:8…They stood afar off and watched…Lu. 23:49
Psa. 89:27…Emmanuel to be higher than earthly kings…Lu. 1:32,33
Psa. 89:35-37…David’s Seed, throne, kingdom endure forever…Lu. 1:32,33
Psa. 89:36-37…His character-Faithfulness…Rev. 1:5
Psa. 90:2…He is from everlasting (Micah 5:2)…Jn. 1:1
Psa. 91:11,12…Identified as Messianic; used to tempt Christ…Lu. 4;10,11
Psa. 97:9…His exaltation predicted…Acts 1:11;Eph. 1:20
Psa. 100:5…His character-Goodness…Mt. 19:16,17
Psa. 102:1-11…The Suffering and Reproach of Calvary…Jn. 21:16-30
Psa. 102:25-27…Messiah is the Preexistent Son…Heb. 1:10-12
Psa. 109:25…Ridiculed…Mt. 27:39
Psa. 110:1…Son of David…Mt. 22:43
Psa. 110:1…To ascend to the right-hand of the Father…Mk.16:19
Psa. 110:1…David’s son called Lord…Mt. 22:44,45
Psa. 110:4…A priest after Melchizedek’s order…Heb. 6:20
Psa. 112:4…His character-Compassionate, Gracious, et al… Mt. 9;36
Psa. 118:17,18…Messiah’s Resurrection assured…Lu. 24:5-7;1 Cor. 15:20
Psa. 118:22,23…The rejected stone is Head of the corner…Mt. 21:42,43
Psa. 118:26a…The Blessed One presented to Israel…Mt. 21:9
Psa. 118:26b…To come while Temple standing…Mt. 21;12-15
Psa. 132:11…The Seed of David(the fruit of His Body)…Lu. 1:32
Psa. 138:1-6…The supremacy of David’s Seed amazes kings… Mt. 2:2-6
Psa. 147:3,6…The earthly ministry of Christ described…Lu. 4:18
Psa. 1:23…He will send the Spirit of God… Jn. 16;7
 
Isa. 6:1…When Isaiah saw His glory… Jn. 12:40-41
Isa. 6:9-10…Parables fall on deaf ears…Mt. 13:13-15
Isa. 6:9-12…Blinded to Christ and deaf to His words…Acts. 28:23-29
Isa. 7:14…To be born of a virgin…Lu. 1:35
Isa. 7:14…To be Emmanuel-God with us… Mt. 1:18-23
Isa. 8:8…Called Emmanuel…Mt. 28:20
Isa. 8:14…A stone of stumbling, a Rock of offense… 1 Pet. 2:8
Isa. 9:1,2…His ministry to begin in Galilee…Mt. 4:12-17
Isa. 9:6…A child born-Humanity…Lu. 1:31
Isa. 9:6…A Son given-Deity…Lu. 1:32; Jn. 1;14; 1 Tim. 3:16
Isa. 9:6…Declared to be the Son of God with power… Rom. 1:3,4
Isa. 9:6…The Wonderful One, Peleh…Lu. 4:22
Isa. 9:6…The Counsellor, Yaatz…Mt. 13:54
Isa. 9:6…The Mighty God, El Gibor…Mt. 11:20
Isa. 9:6…The Everlasting Father, Avi Adth…Jn. 8:58
Isa. 9:6…The Prince of Peace, Sar Shalom…Jn . 16:33
Isa. 9:7…To establish an everlasting kingdom…Lu. 1:32-33
Isa. 9:7…His Character-Just…Jn. 5:30
Isa. 9:7…No end to his Government, Throne, and Peace…Lu. 1:32-33
Isa. 11:1…Called a Nazarene-the Branch, Netzer…Mt. 2:23
Isa. 11:1…A rod out of Jesse-Son of Jesse…Lu. 3:23,32
Isa. 11:2…The anointed One by the Spirit…Mt. 3;16,17
Isa. 11:2…His Character-Wisdom, Understanding, et al…Jn. 4:4-26
Isa. 11:4…His Character-Truth…Jn. 14:6
Isa. 11:10…The Gentiles seek Him…Jn. 12:18-21
Isa. 12:2…Called Jesus-Yeshua…Mt. 1:21
Isa. 25:8…The Resurrection predicted…I Cor. 15:54
Isa. 26:19…His power of Resurrection predicted…Jn. 11:43,44
Isa. 28:16…The Messiah is the precious corner stone…Acts 4:11,12
Isa. 29:13…He indicated hypocritical obedience to His Word…Mt. 15:7-9
Isa. 29:14…The wise are confounded by the Word…I Cor. 1:18-31
Isa. 32:2…A Refuge-A man shall be a hiding place…Mt. 23:37
Isa. 35:4…He will come and save you…Mt. 1:21
Isa. 35:5…To have a ministry of miracles…Mt. 11:4-6
Isa. 40:3,4…Preceded by forerunner…Jn. 1:23
Isa. 40:9…“Behold your God.”…Jn. 1:36;19:14
Isa. 40:11…A shepherd-compassionatelife-giver…Jn. 10:10-18
Isa. 42:1-4…The Servant-as a faithful, patient redeemer… Mt.12:18-21
Isa. 42:2…Meek and lowly… Mt. 11:28-30
Isa. 42:3…He brings hope for the hopeless… Jn. 4
Isa. 42:4…The nations shall wait on His teachings… Jn. 12:20-26
Isa. 42:6…The Light (salvation) of the Gentiles…Lu. 2:32
Isa. 42:1,6…His is a Worldwide compassion… Mt. 28:19,20
Isa. 42:7…Blind eyes opened… Jn. 9:25-38
Isa. 43:11…He is the only Saviour… Acts. 4:12
Isa. 44:3…He will send the Spirit of God… Jn. 16:7,13
Isa. 45:23…He will be the Judge… Jn. 5:22;Rom. 14:11
Isa. 48:12…The First and the Last…Jn. 1:30;Rev. 1:8,17
Isa. 48:17…He came as a Teacher…Jn. 3:2
Isa. 49:1…Called from the womb-His humanity…Mt. 1:18
Isa. 49:5…A Servant from the womb…Lu. 1:31;Phil. 2:7
Isa. 49:6…He is Salvation for Israel…Lu. 2:29-32
Isa. 49:6…He is the Light of the Gentiles…Acts 13:47
Isa. 49:6…He is Salvation unto the ends of the earth… Acts 15:7-18
Isa. 49:7…He is despised of the Nation… Jn. 8:48-49
Isa. 50:3…Heaven is clothed in black at His humiliation… Lu. 23:44,45
Isa. 50:4…He is a learned counsellor for the weary… Mt. 11:28,29
Isa. 50:5…The Servant bound willingly to obedience… Mt. 26:39
Isa. 50:6a…“I gave my back to the smiters.”… Mt. 27:26
Isa. 50:6b…He was smitten on the cheeks… Mt. 26:67
Isa. 50:6c…He was spat upon… Mt. 27:30
Isa. 52:7…To publish good tidings of peace… Lu. 4:14,15
Isa. 52:13…The Servant exalted…Acts 1:8-11; Eph. 1:19-22
Isa. 52:13…Behold, My Servant… Mt. 17:5; Phil. 2:5-8
Isa. 52:14…The Servant shockingly abused… Lu. 18:31-34; Mt. 26:67,68
Isa. 52:15…Nations startled by message of the Servant… Rom. 15:18-21
Isa. 52:15…His blood shed to make atonement for all… Rev. 1:5
Isa. 53:1…His people would not believe Him… Jn. 12:37-38
Isa. 53:2a…He would grow up in a poor family… Lu. 2:7
Isa. 53:2b…Appearance of an ordinary man… Phil. 2:7-8
Isa. 53:3a…Despised… Lu. 4:28-29
Isa. 53:3b…Rejected… Mt. 27:21-23
Isa. 53:3c…Great sorrow and grief… Lu. 19:41-42
Isa. 53:3d…Men hide from being associated with Him… Mk. 14:50-52
Isa. 53:4a…He would have a healing ministry… Lu. 6:17-19
Isa. 53:4b…He would bear the sins of the world… 1 Pet. 2:24
Isa. 53:4c…Thought to be cursed by God… Mt. 27:41-43
Isa. 53:5a…Bears penalty for mankind’s transgressions… Lu. 23:33
Isa. 53:5b…His sacrifice would provide peace between man and God… Col. 1:20
Isa. 53:5c…His back would be whipped… Mt. 27:26
Isa. 53:6a…He would be the sin-bearer for all mankind…Gal. 1:4
Isa. 53:6b…God’s will that He bear sin for all mankind… 1 Jn. 4:10
Isa. 53:7a…Oppressed and afflicted… Mt. 27:27-31
Isa. 53:7b…Silent before his accusers… Mt. 27:12-14
Isa. 53:7c…Sacrificial lamb… Jn. 1:29
Isa. 53:8a…Confined and persecuted… Mt. 26:47-27:31
Isa. 53:8b…He would be judged… Jn. 18:13-22
Isa. 53:8c…Killed… Mt. 27:35
Isa. 53:8d…Dies for the sins of the world… 1 Jn. 2:2
Isa. 53:9a…Buried in a rich man’s grave… Mt. 27:57
Isa. 53:9b…Innocent and had done no violence… Mk. 15:3
Isa. 53:9c…No deceit in his mouth… Jn. 18:38
Isa. 53:10a…God’s will that He die for mankind… Jn. 18:11
Isa. 53:10b…An offering for sin… Mt. 20:28
Isa. 53:10c…Resurrected and live forever… Mk. 16:16
Isa. 53:10d…He would prosper… Jn. 17:1-5
Isa. 53:11a…God fully satisfied with His suffering… Jn. 12:27
Isa. 53:11b…God’s servant… Rom. 5:18-19
Isa. 53:11c…He would justify man before God… Rom. 5:8-9
Isa. 53:11d…The sin-bearer for all mankind… Heb. 9:28
Isa. 53:12a…Exalted by God because of his sacrifice… Mt. 28:18
Isa. 53:12b…He would give up his life to save mankind… Lu. 23:46
Isa. 53:12c…Grouped with criminals… Lu. 23:32
Isa. 53:12d…Sin-bearer for all mankind… 2 Cor. 5:21
Isa. 53:12e…Intercede to God in behalf of mankind… Lu. 23:34
Isa. 55:3…Resurrected by God… Acts 13:34
Isa. 55:4…A witness… Jn. 18:37
Isa. 59:15-16a…He would come to provide salvation… Jn. 6:40
Isa. 59:15-16b…Intercessor between man and God… Mt. 10:32
Isa. 59:20…He would come to Zion as their Redeemer… Lu. 2:38
Isa. 61:1-2a…The Spirit of God upon him… Mt. 3:16-17
Isa. 61:1-2b…The Messiah would preach the good news… Lu. 4:17-21
Isa. 61:1-2c…Provide freedom from the bondage of sin and death… Jn. 8:31-32
Isa. 61:1-2…Proclaim a period of grace… Jn. 5:24
 
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